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The most hilarious thing I have ever read in relation to Joss Whedon

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ForteBass:

--- Quote from: Surgoshan on 27 Mar 2008, 08:29 --- Go to church some time.  Or a political rally.
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Way to make sweeping generalizations. Very nice.


--- Quote from: muteKi on 27 Mar 2008, 11:07 ---Yes, admiring natural beauty is wrong everyone! When you're out appreciating forests or sunsets or beaches you're committing leering, and that's just plain lude.

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The word is "lewd."

Also, why spend so much time on one nut job?

bryanthelion:
She keeps on thinking that Mal is supposed to be the bearer of Whedon's ideals.

I keep thinking, "Maybe Whedon WANTED Mal to be a douche-bag."

Uber Ritter:
It is true that Mal doesn't seem to form a romantic attachment to a woman that does not have sex for money.  I'm just saying.  Not that Mal is necessarily Whedon's masculine ideal (perhaps one archetype among several). 

Seriously my radical feminist friend spends enough time ranting about how much she hates a lot of 'feminist' blogging on the internet to convince me that this is not a joke.  In this regard feminism is, I think, as vulnerable to projecting its a priori ideals on a complicated world as much as any other ideology (I could cite other examples, but this would bring us into politics proper).  Just last night my friend was ranting about how patronizing it is to say "all X is a manifestation of rape," since it effectively deprives the women in question (prostitutes, for instance) of any agency of their own as well as any judgment, since it says that their thought that they have a choice in the matter (if they do think so, of course) is some sort of delusion.  Not that one can't argue against prostitution on feminist grounds from a different angle, rather that this particular line of reasoning doesn't respect the humanity (agency, rationality) of people that are convinced they are being rational and free.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 28 Mar 2008, 20:29 ---Also, I take umbrage with Khar's implication of Asimov. The dude can barely write humans, it's unfair to take him to task for his writing of women.

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I wouldn't mind so much if he had, you know,

actually written any women.

Ozymandias:
Dr. Calvin?

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