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The most hilarious thing I have ever read in relation to Joss Whedon
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--- Quote ---This is a joke, right?
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--- Quote ---Unfortunately no. Joss Whedon did really write and direct the misogynist, racist trash Firefly. I wish that I had made up all of the info in this post but I'm sorry to say that Joss Whedon's Firefly was actually inflicted upon millions of innocent women.
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Also her ideas on rape are utterly ridiculous. I am so glad someone called her out on it and the comment wasn't deleted, which from the subcomments it appears alecto had been doing for some time. I want to comment, but I need to make it sound like more than me just being pissed off that her post is both ridiculous and insulting, considering I consider myself a feminist.
Switchblade:
I like this response:
--- Quote ---Every plot of which I can conceive can be construed as hateful to women from the perspective of your blog post:
"Pretty girls fight evil and save the day." -> "Why do female heroes have to be reduced to eye candy?"
"Ugly lesbians fight evil and save the day." -> "Whedon has created his female heroes as carictures of everything men find hateful, and through that correlates the image of strong, heroic women with what men find hateful."
"Neutral-looking women of no apparent sexual orientation fight evil and save the day." -> "The female leads are all stripped of their female characteristics and fade into the scenery, essentially putting them into the kabuki role of female servitude in which they should be neither seen nor heard."
"No women are in the show at all." -> "Buffy presents a world in which women have been wiped out, and the guys run around wisecracking and fighting evil and having a grand old time. They are winking at genocide."
. . . do you see where I'm coming from? As much as I love counter-intuitive thinking, I wonder if your admitted biases have put you in a position where everything is anti-feminist, nothing is pro-feminist, and anti-women subplots can be found lurking behind every bush.
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Lurking behind every bush HURR HURR HURR
--- Quote ---Yes, I plan to. I found Objects in Space to be horrifically racist. I can't believe that Joss was allowed to air a show that had such a terrible portrayal of Black men. I also found the portrayal of the Black man in the movie Serenity to be pretty horrifying too.
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One of her subsequent comments. Remind me where the racism was in that particular episode? They were being stalked and held hostage by an amoral bounty hunter who just happened to be black. I certainly didn't get any kind of a "he's a horrible person because he's black" vibe off it. There are plenty of characters from all ethnicities in the series, and none of them were presented as being bad people purely because of their genetic origin. Hell, two of the wisest, noblest and most well-adjusted characters in the entire show were Book and Zoe.
Even the Agent from the movie was not an actively bad person - he was just ruthlessly devoted to a cause that he believed to be honourable and Good.
I have to disagree with the title of this thread: this blog entry isn't hilarious - it's scary.
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I'm surprised she hadn't deleted that response because it's more insightful than any of her bollix.
Statik:
Honestly, its no more radical than the people who willfully believe that the earth is flat, or that god created the earth some 10k years ago, or evolution isnt real (despite a large majority having house pets who owe their entire looks to forced evolution)
In reference to the psycho ranters thing about Joss, whatever, she is blowing things out of context because she is looking through a flawed lens. We can sit here and pick apart her arguments one by one, because we are being fairly rational human beings. She is obviously not rational.
I find this far more disturbing.
--- Quote from: Crazy Feminist ---Let me just say now that I have never personally known of a healthy relationship between a white man and a woman of colour. (More crap justifying her position why white guys shouldnt be with "coloured" girls)
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It seems like she basically says (in an underhanded mean sort of way) that black women shouldnt date white men, because white guys only want them for their "exoticness" (Side note: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=822). I forget which logical fallacy that is, when you havent seen it, therefore it doesnt exist.
This person isnt worth the brain cells neccessary to respond to her distorted logic.
Lines:
Damn it, can't put up a comment because I'm not her friend. (Like I'd want to be... :roll:) But this is what I would have said:
--- Quote ---Someone linked this to me and I have to say I think your entire post and your behavior in your comments is ridiculous. I am a feminist and from what you're saying I think a) you are taking this show WAY to seriously and have no sense of humor and b) you really need to rethink what is rape and how you come off as racist.
Zoe calls Mal "sir" because he was her commander in the war and later he was her captain. She is showing him respect, not placing herself beneath him. She is the strongest out of the four main females and definitely asserts herself when she disagrees with Mal. And seriously, the girl kicks major ass. She is in no way the female stereotype. Also, where you said that a black woman can't have a successful relationship with a white man is incredibly racist and I am very offended by this. One of my cousins married a black woman and they are happily married and have two kids.
Kaylee is very cute and happy in personality, but the girl knows her mechanics. She's very intelligent when it comes to engines and the like, but still retains a very feminine side, which is shown through her admiration of the pink dress. That line about Jayne and Mal getting annoyed with her being chipper was obviously a joke. Have you ever had an older brother or friend who was annoyed with bubbly girls? Obviously not. You obviously have a lame sense of humor, too.
River, even though she is pretty messed up because of what happened to her, is also a strong character, especially so in the movie when she's portrayed as a killing machine.
Inara, you have to realize, picked her profession by CHOICE. Her character went through training for years and belongs to a guild of companions. She is allowed to pick and choose who she wants to be with and who she doesn't. What she does is also more about the ritual and ceremony than it is about the sex. I mean, her specialty is foot massage. Saying that the men she CHOOSES are raping her is silly. Rape is a forced, violent act upon women and though I haven't been raped myself, I know people who have and I can't believe you consider the two to be the same. It's both ignorant and offensive to those who have experienced rape.
And saying shit about Whedon and you think he treats his wife is both stupid and completely uncalled for. You don't know these people. You aren't in their bedroom when they have sex. You know absolutely nothing about their personal lives. Have you ever met a man who beats his wife? No? Because if you want to rewind my life about 20 years and meet my dad I'm sure he'd loooove to give you a demonstration by smashing in your windshield while your baby was in the front seat with you.
If this is a tl;dr, here's the basics: I think your post is ridiculous and misinformed, I think you have WAY too much time on your hands and need to get a life, and I think you should reconsider posting about things you don't know about, i.e. rape, interracial relationships, and Whedon's life. I honestly don't know how or why so many people have agreed with you, because I think this whole thing is stupid and probably written to either purposely piss people off or start stupid internet rumors that don't hold their weight whatsoever.
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I wanted so much to post that. :-(
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