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Hellboy 2: The Golden Army

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Cartilage Head:
I thought it was really great.

Jackie Blue:
I too am confused by the bitching, I saw it last night and JESUS FUCK it was the most visually fantastical film I've seen since, I don't know, City of Lost Children probably.  I honestly didn't like Pan's Labyrinth very much, but this was just... wow.

Doug Jones though, I really think he did a pretty shitty job, I really missed David Hyde Pierce.

I thought the elf chick was pretty rad.  And the elf dude, man, he was like Sephiroth if Sephiroth weren't an overrated mama's boy.

Oddly though I didn't really laugh.  The comedy was good, but it didn't actually make me LOL like the first one did.

The giant Cthulhu elemental thing was... pretty fucking rad to put it mildly.

What else... better choreographed martial arts fighting than even Matrix Revolutions, though not as much of it, obv.

I am not sorry I paid the counter dude my six bucks instead of just walking into the theater, because I totally could have because he wasn't looking and obviously didn't give a shit anyway (I got there right as the trailers were ending so I was the only person there other than him).

Oh and Kraus was pretty awesome, did not guess it was McFarlane.

If they do a third (and I'm sure they will) they are seriously going to have a hard time making it anywhere near as good, unless they just bring Del Toro on board again.

Though having watched Planet Terror like three times this week I think Rodriguez would do a good job.

Ikrik:
I just saw it today and I can honestly say that I thought it was pretty damn amazing.  However i did absolutely hate the beginning with "kid" Hellboy.  Everything else was made and there were only a few things that connected it to the first one. 

I didn't miss Niles as much as I thought I would, Doug Jones kept the same staccatto pacing and it was nice. There were points were the entire theatre was laughing and I was laughing too which was really nice.  It definitely has a nice feel to it.  I'm not sure if it will make a good transition to small screen though.

KvP:

--- Quote from: zerodrone on 16 Jul 2008, 00:03 ---If they do a third (and I'm sure they will) they are seriously going to have a hard time making it anywhere near as good, unless they just bring Del Toro on board again.

Though having watched Planet Terror like three times this week I think Rodriguez would do a good job.


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I don't know if it will play big to an extent that the studio will wrest it from Del Toro's hands (I mean, come on, I thought the draw of Hellboy was that it was a Del Toro project). It's sort of his at this point (lots consider it a "studio movie" paying the bills between personal projects, but he seemed pretty invested in this one) and I'd bet Mike Mignola is a big Guillermo partisan by now.

pilsner:
Seriously disappointed by this. 

*Spoilers*
The plot made no fucking sense.  The elf chick didn't exactly tug on my hearstrings with the whole "My psychopathic brother knows what I know but sure take me to your underground layer so that I can endanger your lives" thing.  Also if she'd been willing to part with that fucking crown piece a little earlier a lot of mayhem could have been avoided.  Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing.  The dialog in the romance scenes was painful and stilted.  The cheese filled catchphrases ("You woke up the baby") stank.  The convenient coincidences that moved the plot forward were annoying.  Krauss was supposed to be a genius and his plan at the end was "Let's travel half-way across the world and reason with the psychopathic elf prince. 
*End Spoilers*

Maybe I would have expected this if I'd read the novels, but I can't help but feel that this movie brought nothing new to the table.  The secret agency dealing with menaces that need to be concealed from society at large we got in Men In Black.  The misunderstood heroes hated by society despite their altruism and good looks we got in X-Men.  The main character having to make a decision between good and evil we got in more movies I can conveniently count, including the Nightwatch series.  And the crazy ass monsters with weirdly placed eyes we got in Pan's Labyrinth.  This could have been a great movie if the dialog had been well written and the plot engaging, but as it was it left me uninterested in seeing the inevitable sequel.  And I was a huge fan of the first movie.

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