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Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
KvP:
--- Quote from: pilsner on 17 Jul 2008, 08:43 ---*Spoilers*
The plot made no fucking sense. The elf chick didn't exactly tug on my hearstrings with the whole "My psychopathic brother knows what I know but sure take me to your underground layer so that I can endanger your lives" thing. Also if she'd been willing to part with that fucking crown piece a little earlier a lot of mayhem could have been avoided. Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing. The dialog in the romance scenes was painful and stilted. The cheese filled catchphrases ("You woke up the baby") stank. The convenient coincidences that moved the plot forward were annoying. Krauss was supposed to be a genius and his plan at the end was "Let's travel half-way across the world and reason with the psychopathic elf prince.
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No no, you're misremembering. Krauss' plan was to face the prince sans crown / golden army and beat him. Abe didn't tell anyone that he had the third piece of the crown when they left.
pilsner:
--- Quote from: KvP on 17 Jul 2008, 16:42 ---
--- Quote from: pilsner on 17 Jul 2008, 08:43 ---*Spoilers*
The plot made no fucking sense. The elf chick didn't exactly tug on my hearstrings with the whole "My psychopathic brother knows what I know but sure take me to your underground layer so that I can endanger your lives" thing. Also if she'd been willing to part with that fucking crown piece a little earlier a lot of mayhem could have been avoided. Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing. The dialog in the romance scenes was painful and stilted. The cheese filled catchphrases ("You woke up the baby") stank. The convenient coincidences that moved the plot forward were annoying. Krauss was supposed to be a genius and his plan at the end was "Let's travel half-way across the world and reason with the psychopathic elf prince.
*End Spoilers*
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No no, you're misremembering. Krauss' plan was to face the prince sans crown / golden army and beat him. Abe didn't tell anyone that he had the third piece of the crown when they left.
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I don't they were planning on beating him. Remember that Hellboy was dying from the spear wound and it appeared that they believed his only chance was to get the Prince guy to take mercy and remove the spear. It's not like they knew that there was an angel of death waiting to bail Hellboy's ass out of spearpoint death who just happened to be hanging out in the same joint where the Prince was waiting to unleash the end of the world.
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: pilsner on 25 Jul 2008, 12:32 ---Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing.
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There's a word for it you know.
Jimmy the Squid:
I just saw this last night (it only came out on Thursday here) and honestly I liked it. I am not under any misguided impressions that the film was great but all in all I enjoyed it and, echoing the sentiments of this thread so far that is because the art direction (and the action) was basically flawless. It was the rest of this film that let it down. If you haven't seen it yet don't read the rest of my post, it has minor spoilers.
The opening scene with the Young Hellboy should have been left out. I loved the little CGI animation thing they did for the prologue but they could have just had John Hurt doing a voiceover over that thing. The kid that played Hellboy couldn't act for shit and it just didn't look right. They obviously just wanted to have John Hurt in it again and as I said, they would have been better off with just a voiceover and the animation.
The acting was about on-par with the first one, however the woman who played Princess Nuala cannot act. She looked great but I just didn't believe the performance at all. Contrast that against the dude who played Prince Nuada and man, I could totally believe that he was an elven prince. Dude totally sold it.
Doug Jones was good, I did notice the change in the voice but he still played it well so I was ok with it. Jeffrey Tambor gave me the shits though. In the first film he was a capable guy, officious and blustering, yeah but he knew how to talk to the press and how to cover stuff up. In this one he was a bumbling idiot and it just didn't work. The film tried too hard to be a comedy and ballsed it all up in the process.
Also, what the fuck was with the closing shot? That fucking freeze on Hellboy's shocked face was just waay too fucking cheesey for the film, they could have just stuck with a fadeout. They should have just stuck with a fadeout.
All that said, the film looked amazing and I really enjoyed it. The dialogue wasn't any worse than the first one and the story was passable. The action was awesome and the art direction was exactly what I expect from Del Toro, including the myriad of vagina imagery. I will get it on DVD, it was good, but not in a good way.
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