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himynameisjulien:

--- Quote from: KvP on 14 Jul 2008, 21:58 ---Yeah, that's a pretty accurate comparison.

One thing I didn't like about MGS4 was that they took what amounted to a running gag from the first three games (Johnny whatshisface, the jail guard with irritable bowels) and made him an incredibly attractive badass, and his constant pants-shitting is explained away (apparently shitting your pants for a reason other than fear isn't unattractive, and a heretofore sensible female character falls in love with Johnny upon learning the reason for the pants-shitting)

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I thought that was odd. That was the most odd-seeming thing about the story other than Otacon; his behavior wasn't real to me. He just seemed too much like the typical emotionless character for that kind of role, like Q in James Bond. Hell, even Sunny seemed like a "better" character, and she's only in, what, 5 or 6 scenes? To contrast that, I thought that Naomi was pretty well done.
The scene at the end, when Snake is in the microwave chamber and everyone is about to die, was my favorite, albeit very cliche how Snake saves them in the nick of time.
I haven't played any of the other MGS games but I imagine they are good as well. What looks awesome, is Alan Wake. Maybe not as good as MGS4, from what I hear, but it seems really cool, from what I've heard in previews. Too bad it doesn't have a release date.

Ikrik:
MGS is a series, along with Splinter Cell and GTA, that I have an interesting relationship with.  When I'm playing the games I'm in love with them, I think they're great and I play them quite a lot, they really suck up my time.  As soon as I haven't played them for a day or two I start to resent them, I start realizing how hard they are and how frustrated I get playing them.  I might end up playing MGS4 as soon as I find someone who actually owns a PS3.

Jackie Blue:

--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 14 Jul 2008, 21:43 ---Yeah, MGS is like an anime. One of those terrible ones where it always seems like it should be getting good and finally making sense already, but it just fucking refuses to. Also, to get to the anime, first you're forced to play a mediocre video game.

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Haha.  Exactly.

Vice City, San Andreas and GTA4 don't exactly have the best stories but dear Jesus do I love the writing and voice acting.  I do missions for the cutscenes half the time.

johnny5:
I kind of agree it plays like an anime, but overall it's a really well put together game. not as good as a movie might be but overall the entire series is A+

Alex C:
I hate the MG series. I've tried playing them, and I've tried liking them, I really have, but I haven't been able to gut one through to the bitter end since MGS1. The series really is like a bad comic or anime, and shares many of the same crippling shortcomings. It has overwrought dialogue, some really ridiculous characters and the few fresh ideas that are carted out with each iteration are quickly crushed under the sheer weight of series continuity. Raiden's a prime example; not only was he widely reviled due to his effeminacy but he also had to fight an uphill battle from the word go thanks to all the fanboys frothing at the mouth to play as Snake. So what do the devs do? They spend nearly as much time making "Well, I guess he was pretty gay, amirite guys?!?" jokes in subsequent games as they do developing a character that frankly, had already served his purpose and wasn't really necessary for the remainder of the series-- in an ideal world, I think he would have been dropped entirely. I suppose the cheap thrill of a familiar reference suits the VH1 fans, but I couldn't help but think that in this case metahumor was taking up time better spent on something new or at least engaging.

Anyway, I honestly think Kojima is capable of doing much, much better since there's some wonderful presentation and setpieces buried in the MGS series. Maybe now that he won't have to staple his ideas onto the same lumbering 20 year old behemoth he'll be able to really shine. I'm probably being too optimistic though, considering the fact that big name franchises are clearly where the big money lies.


P.S. You know what else is fucking sad/funny? I'm pretty damn sure I spent less time writing and editing this post than it takes to get through your average MG cutscene. And that's including the time spent making a sammich, losing the post to a browser timeout and losing an edit when answering the phone.

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