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PizzaSHARK:
Try reading threads at Elitist Jerks, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a stickied guide or three in your class forum on the official WoW boards. The information's out there, you just gotta make yourself read it :)
Jace:
So right now my 35 Mage is FS and has decent DPS, but I'd like my DPS to be better than my MBPS, I don't know if it's a direct correlation, but I think my HRPS and MRPS is subpar for what I could have. Now sometimes I play while I have the RHPS on and that can distract me and bring down my DPS while raising my HBPS, but it's pretty negligable because I can ignore the RHPS. So what I am wondering is if I use FB/FS, AM/RT, and TV/TS skills, will my DPS be higher than my ESP?
(I made up like half of the acronyms, just so you know)
Actually I'm wondering about maybe moving my mage from the RP server he is on to a normal server.
thegreatbuddha:
--- Quote from: PizzaSHARK on 08 Jan 2009, 21:16 ---Low DPS will mean low TPS. You really need to read up at Tankspot and Elitist Jerks, because it seems like you're somewhat misinformed about how tanking works in 3.x.
--- End quote ---
BS. My 61 protadin hits for around 200 white damage/ 1.8 speed, and I crit for around 300. I never lose aggro. Sure, I'm spamming Holy Shield and Consecrate, but I consistently place lower than everyone except the healer on the damage meters. If I use Seal of Light and Judgement of Light, I occasionally place below the healer in DPS.
DPS=/=TPS
clockworkjames:
I should clarify... High threat moves heavily outweight dps for threat, as of 3.x it is harder (but still not impossible) to steal aggro, I do easily 1200DPS and by "dps low low low low on priorities" what I mean is I don't want to be that dick of a tank with a shield spike instead of a +20 def ench, or a 2.5 speed sword that should be used by a rogue, or with incite instead of points in anticipation, with improved rend over deflection etc.
Tank gear is str/stam and strength = AP and also BLOCK which means damage shield gets a hefty boost and so does shield slam.
I am not low on DPS (For a tank) by any stretch of the imagination. What I meant was that climbing the dmg list is not important to me, I would rather be a good tank than a high dps tank. My TPS is built on improved threat moves like devastate3 times then revenge and shield slam when sword and board procs, when both of them are on CD it's heroic strike, another devastate, shockwave on a stunnable mob, concussion blow or even another devastate.
If I can keep aggro off a full purple lock/rogue and a +1950 bonus healing restro, I am doing something right.
Incite or impale?
Alex C:
I'm leaning towards Impale. After all, Devastate and Shield Slam have pretty decent crit rates when their talents kick in and 10% more damage on a Shield Slam crit is pretty hefty chunk of threat, especially when you get a few more drops and can tack on some more Strength to along with all that Stam you're packing.
And yeah, I agree with the gist of what you're saying. It's typically a hell of a lot better to mix and match specialized backup items you keep in your bags for special occasions than it is to constantly make weird talent concessions and to throw odd enchantments/gems on your primary tanking gear. For example, my old guild's MT Menergy used to swap out to lower tier stuff that had expertise rating or was gemmed for dps/threat generation on trash pulls and farm status bosses, but that's a far cry from slapping a shield spike on a Bulwark of Azzinoth. I imagine it's not so bad now that prot warriors deal so much more damage than they used to in general, but there was once a time where you could hit so much mitigation that being overgeared actually led to rage starvation.
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