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4th edition D&D=Teh sckuk OR awesomesauce?
ackblom12:
After having had the last couple months to play it, it feels like 4th ed is just D&D getting out of the identity crisis that 3rd Ed was perpetuating.
I'm a huge fan of the fact that you can now powergame and not break anything. Even weakening yourself down for flavor reasons isn't going to have a huge affect on your capabilities as long as you know how to use what you got.
I've been confused by the massive outcry against 4th ed since the beginning though. Half the time i can't tell if the complaints are misunderstandings about how the game has been changed, expecting the 3 core books to have all the material that 3rd ed had over the course of the last 8 years, or if it's just a bunch of people who are just that fucking bitchy.
benji:
--- Quote from: ackblom12 on 04 Sep 2008, 22:04 ---I've been confused by the massive outcry against 4th ed since the beginning though. Half the time i can't tell if the complaints are misunderstandings about how the game has been changed, expecting the 3 core books to have all the material that 3rd ed had over the course of the last 8 years, or if it's just a bunch of people who are just that fucking bitchy.
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I don't know. Complaining about edition changes seems to be one of the favorite things to do in RPG circles these days. What gets frustrating, I think, is that you've put a lot of time and money in to buying books and learning rules, but then too many rules change and you feel like you have to start from scratch.
I haven't played D&D in a long time, but so far I like what I've heard about 4th ed. It sounds like it might be fun.
ackblom12:
Well yes, obviously the monetary investment is important, but it's not exactly like the 40+ books that were out will dissapear from their collection. Not to mention that every edition of D&D, with the exception of 3.5 was a drastic overhaul of the system. It just boggles my mind.
I would definitely suggest trying it out though if you get a chance. It's more of a step back to the older editions of D&D with a bigger emphasis on using a battlemap and minis of some sort and a hell of a lot less game breaking character tweaks.
Nodaisho:
I've been listening to the PA/PvP 4ed podcast on the wizard's website, it doesn't sound bad, but the new books aren't all that high on my list of what to buy, even once I get money. One of the people I play with, who has been playing since at least 2E, doesn't like the round/encounter/daily way that abilities work, he seems to have liked the Vancian magic system.
ackblom12:
Difference in taste I can understand. I personally couldn't bare to go back to my 1st and 2nd ed days. Just... bleh.
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