Topic: Twilight Series (Read 220303 times)

Nodaisho · « **Reply #500 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 13:20 »

Again, Dracula in Stoker's book could walk in the sun, he just wasn't a near-godlike monster that could scuttle down a stone wall headfirst, command wolves, and turn into a cloud of dust that mesmerized people with the reflections of moonlight when he was in the sun. Actually, I guess vampires can sparkle, because that seems to be pretty much how the dust was described as reacting to the moon. I still think the sunlight sparkles are an abomination.

Tom · « **Reply #501 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 14:29 »

Vampires have always been subversive, Josef. After all, fangs can penetrate and so can a penis.

Surgoshan · « **Reply #502 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 14:32 »

Vampires have always been sexual. And not just the male ones. It wasn't necessarily a nice or pretty sexuality, heck, Stokers vampires were pretty much rapists, but it was there.

Josefbugman · « **Reply #503 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 17:02 »

I was meaning more the sole fact that they are now attractive, as opposed to Dracula himself who (whilst being described in extremly sensual terms) is not only erotic but also can appear as a corpse or at least as a creepy and deranged eccentric. It could just have easily have been the werewolf that becomes the sexual creation as the vampire (read the original little red ridinghood and watch your childhood burn like a candle).

I just can't understand why this has been the chosen medium for a terrifying undead opponent, instead of being a creature of darkness, sensual, preadatory and unremitingly evil we have... Angsty, cute and misunderstood.

I have realised how anti erotic my last message was, I did not mean it to be I realise how the preadatory aspect has been in the whole gene pool of vampires as long as Dracula came along but I just did not understand why it tends to be the most important. If you could combine the terrifying and the erotic you have a villain that will haunt the dreams of watchers for a good long while.

Perhaps its just me, I always found nosferatu the cooler rather than Dracula

Tybalt · « **Reply #504 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 17:09 »

511 posts?

Twilight is the ultimate trollbait.

Alex C · « **Reply #505 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 17:13 »

It's not really trolling. There has been maybe one pseudo-argument out of the entire thread.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #506 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 19:29 »

I think it's just really fun to make fun of, I don't think that qualifies as trolling.

Lines · « **Reply #507 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 20:44 »

I have read MANY versions of Little Red Riding Hood, including the original, and my childhood is still intact. Most of the original versions are the best versions. At least in the original she's not a ninny that gets eaten by the wolf, but outsmarts him and runs away. Also, this is why if you watch Into The Woods, the werewolf is more of a sexual being/predator than he is hungry animal. The allusion has always been there, but the Grimms kind of ruined that bit.

Garp · « **Reply #508 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 22:29 »

Or hid it because they were children's stories.

I wasn't alive in the 19th century, but as i understand it they weren't too hot on sex in books at the time.

Vendetagainst · « **Reply #509 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 23:51 »

I'm pretty sure that if you wanted publicly accessible and accepted sexual media in the 19th century books were probably your best bet.

Josefbugman · « **Reply #510 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 03:46 »

wow, weird sense of deja vu with those replies... seriously, I have seen those three pictures in a line somewhere else before...

I dunno Garp, most of the 19th century was riddled with sexual allusions, I mean dracula is one example, Carmilla another. Anything that could get under the censor of popular morality (or in Europe French litigation) would be snapped up.

I need to see into the woods, I have seen Assassins and Sweeney Todd on stage and really want to see the last "big" sondheim musical (had to study them and listen to the music for A level drama).

Back to the subject at hand, why does the "hearthrob" sparkle?

Eris · « **Reply #511 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 03:49 »

because the vampires in the books' setting sparkle in the sunlight. That is why they avoid the sun.

Josefbugman · « **Reply #512 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 03:53 »

So no reason like "they are made of rock and they sparkle like quartz?" no reason like "infernal energy is burned off in the sunlight, if we stay in it too long we begin to age?" No reason at all in fact?

Good Lord how did these things become so popular!

MadassAlex · « **Reply #513 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 04:48 »

Because they are easy to consume and offer no social drawback, except for the angst that is theoretically so attractive.

Of course, this also robs them of depth and anything interestingly really.

Lines · « **Reply #514 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 05:13 »

Quote from: Garp on 02 Jan 2009, 22:29

Or hid it because they were children's stories.

I wasn't alive in the 19th century, but as i understand it they weren't too hot on sex in books at the time.

You have no idea how much there was. They were all over the place, including children's stories.

Surgoshan · « **Reply #515 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 06:15 »

Quote from: Garp on 02 Jan 2009, 22:29

Or hid it because they were children's stories.

I wasn't alive in the 19th century, but as i understand it they weren't too hot on sex in books at the time.

The original Grimm stories were quite full of sex and rape and murder and all of it. Over the years they've been incredibly thoroughly bowdlerized. So where once a king happened upon a corpse, had sex with it, and subsequently found that the corpse had gotten pregnant and given birth to two children... now the king finds two children.

Oh, and there were a LOT of sex books, tijuana bibles, things like that. You just had to be a bit clever about finding them. I think there was even some pornography in the illuminations of medieval manuscripts (which, remember, were done by monks).

peach · « **Reply #516 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 09:33 »

I thought some would appreciate this.
CULLENCREW4LIFE.^{(btw, jk about cullencrew4life.)}

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #517 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 20:49 »

Why the flipping fuck do they all look like the same guy =3

Nice pic =D

Liz · « **Reply #518 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 20:52 »

I could watch that for hours. It makes me giggle.

Lines · « **Reply #519 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 19:11 »

The only one NOT making silly faces is the dude in the very back. The rest of them look super silly and it makes me laugh.

yelley · « **Reply #520 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 19:17 »

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #521 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 21:01 »

Now how many lame punchlines were in that thing. <__<

Oh, wait that was the point.

Ha.

Ha ha ha.

lawl.

Lines · « **Reply #522 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 16:29 »

Oh, Mutts. <3

peach · « **Reply #523 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 21:00 »

Oh, Edward.
Oh, Bella.
Oh, shut up.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #524 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 21:06 »

So I saw the movie last night. Did anyone else catch the Smeyer cameo?

Nodaisho · « **Reply #525 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 22:58 »

No, who was she? I don't really recognize her, having not seen many pictures of her at all.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #526 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 10:57 »

It was just a moment - she was in the diner, and she was the one who looked like a horribly bloated, aged Bella, ordering a veggie platter.

Ikrik · « **Reply #527 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 11:54 »

I am one of three people in my Women Studies class who haven't read the book (we're also all dudes). And you should have heard my prof talk about it...she said "You know Twilight.....great story but badly written." I had to resist putting up my hand and saying "uh...you mean it's a giant festering piece of crap, right?" And I'm going to be reviewing Breaking Dawn for and seeing how it represents feminism...

peach · « **Reply #528 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 12:05 »

"Before you, Bella, my life was like a moonless night. Very dark, but there were stars--points of light and reason...And then you shot across my sky like a meteor. Suddenly everything was on fire; there was brilliancy, there was beauty. When you were gone, when the meteor had fallen over the horizon, everything went black. Nothing had changed, but my eyes were blinded by the light. I couldn't see the stars anymore. And there was no more reason for anything."
- New Moon

AWWWWWWWW.
Okay, I admit. I do like Twilight & it is badly written. But holy fuck, I'd melt for a few sweet words like that.
ps.

Liz · « **Reply #529 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 12:22 »

This whole thing gave me so many giggles. Oh goodness.

http://community.livejournal.com/rpattz_trufax/52673.html

peach · « **Reply #530 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 12:30 »

LOL. Pretty much just a bunch of Chuck Norris jokes but changed "Chuck Norris" to "Robert Pattinson" I wonder what Chuck is gonna do about this dazzling fact?

Tom · « **Reply #531 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 14:12 »

Can someone with a level head please tell me if he can actually act, because I do not want to see him fuck up a Salvidor Dali biopic this year.

Cicero · « **Reply #532 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 14:13 »

Wouldn't be caught dead within a hundred feet of that book series.

Liz · « **Reply #533 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 15:37 »

Well then, I guess you better avoid my apartment building at all costs.

Just sayin'.

Lines · « **Reply #534 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 16:55 »

They are poorly written. I mean, Twilight was the first book she had ever written and she was looking after her kids at the same time. I mean, duh it's not going to be spectacular writing. Your friends are silly for being angry with you over that.

Alex C · « **Reply #535 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 17:16 »

Some of my favorite stuff has been rather poorly written, particularly a few gems that were written by my classmates in college. Half the internet is a testiment to the idea that you can create something that is clever and entertaining while still committing grave sins against the English language.

Tom · « **Reply #536 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 17:44 »

I might add, that some people get a kick out of watching Two and a Half Men.

Alex C · « **Reply #537 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 17:48 »

I dunno, I guess I just think most things have value, even Twilight. I mean, I got a few laughs out of this thread, so I'm loathe to be too critical, even if the best thing about Twilight is the simple fact that for many people it's a shared experience they can talk about.

Oh god, I almost sound like an optimist. WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE?

ruyi · « **Reply #538 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 18:15 »

Quote from: Tom on 06 Jan 2009, 14:12

Can someone with a level head please tell me if he can actually act

(yes)

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #539 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 19:48 »

Quote from: Tom on 06 Jan 2009, 17:44

I might add, that some people get a kick out of watching Two and a Half Men.

Quote from: Chesire Cat on 22 Jul 2008, 11:54

I disagree with Two and a Half Men. It is such Raging Bull(shit) I just dont get it. Its a 15 year backslide in quality for sitcoms. Shitty sets, shitty acting, shitty camera work & lighting and shitty dialog, its universally horrible.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #540 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 21:07 »

I declare Twilight to be a 100% light-hearted slapstick comedy series about how emotionally shallow people interact.

el_loco_avs · « **Reply #541 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 03:42 »

Quote from: Tom on 06 Jan 2009, 14:12

Can someone with a level head please tell me if he can actually act, because I do not want to see him fuck up a Salvidor Dali biopic this year.

Good ol Cedric Diggory can act.

frullic · « **Reply #542 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 20:35 »

some girl in my class openly admitted to wanting to rape Rabert Pattisson until his pelvis was grinded to dust. Lucky bastard

Dazed · « **Reply #543 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 20:53 »

Yeah, rape victims have all the fun.

frullic · « **Reply #544 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 20:55 »

and the nice guy friends get all the details they don't want to hear.

Eris · « **Reply #545 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 20:59 »

I don't know about you guys, but getting my pelvis ground into dust sounds awesome. I will have to bring it up next time someone wants to rape me.

Seriously, what part of that statement makes Robert Pattinson a "lucky bastard"?

frullic · « **Reply #546 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 21:01 »

he gets to get raped by any hot teenage girl he wants (or doesn't)

I get to be the nice guy friend and service bitch to said teenage girls.

Eris · « **Reply #547 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 21:03 »

Quote from: frullic on 08 Jan 2009, 21:01

he gets to get raped by any hot teenage girl he wants (or doesn't)

I get to be the nice guy friend and service bitch to said teenage girls.

You would rather be raped? Can you see what I am getting at here?

frullic · « **Reply #548 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 21:04 »

by teh hawt crazy girl in my class? obviously

Vendetagainst · « **Reply #549 on:** 08 Jan 2009, 21:05 »

Whoever linked Head Trip, thanks! It was a fun read. The artist wrote another comic on the subject: http://headtripcomics.comicgenesis.com/d/20080915.html

Also, I was going to tell people to calm down apropos of frullic's crotch-grinding post, but that last post is pretty unfortunate.

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