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Siibillam-Law:
--- Quote from: Edith on 10 Dec 2008, 16:46 ---Just to clear up up a few things:
I DO: pee in the shower
I DO NOT: pee in the tub while taking a bath
I DO: poop on street corners in dire, dire, dire emergencies and abandon my underpants there
I DO NOT: poop in the shower under any circumstances
--- End quote ---
I hear that
Nodaisho:
Oh, sure it's condescending, but it is also incredibly common to say that. I've gotten used to it, I suppose, because I have made decisions that people insist I will feel differently about when I am older. Of course, these are always people that don't really know my situation at all, but isn't that usually the case?
Isn't the not tying the tubes of women until they have had a child something to do with the size? I seem to remember hearing that it was because until a child was born, the part was too small to safely operate on. Well, science marches on, so if that is true, I imagine we will eventually be able to operate safely.
On marriage effecting people, I don't really know, as I don't know what you are speaking of in specific. I tend to be suspicious of claims of subconscious influence, though I know it exists. It just seems like it is frequently used to explain away things that someone doesn't like.
I would agree with you about there not needing to be a dominant partner in a relationship, but I personally don't find the pants comment annoying at all. That usually gets said over small stuff.
Fenriswolf:
I've generally found the "pants" comment has usually not been in response to something specific and silly so much as a generalised comment just because I'm not especially feminine. Meh.
I'm not sure about the practicality of sterilising women who have not had children but I'd doubt it very much, it's probably just a wee bit more fiddly which is going to make surgeons uncomfortable if they don't do it a lot. I mean it's not entirely sexist, men get harassed about wanting children/more children when they do it as well, it's just annoying.
As for subconcious influences I can't be bothered figuring out exactly what I mean, I guess it's that as forward as we like to think we are gender roles are still very much socially enforced, and I think all sorts of little things exacerbate this so I'd rather opt out of the whole thing all together. As much as I can.
Nodaisho:
Oh, I guess I see what you mean. Unwritten laws, and whatnot. Know what the best part about an unwritten law is? They can't jail you for breaking it.
edit: I guess that is kind of glib, but I really tend to not care if I get people's feathers ruffled because of how I behave, so things like that seem rather straightforward to me.
spoon_of_grimbo:
the whole kids thing is kinda weird... i mean, i'm 20 and single, and if the subject comes up in conversation, i'll usually just say i don't really ever wanna be a dad, but i'm not so militantly against the idea that i wouldn't consider it if i met the right girl. i mean, i'm not massively opposed to having a kid running around, i generally get on well with my younger relatives and have done since they were little, but what scares me is the ridiculous amount of influence i'd have on the kid. i mean, most of my habits, mannerisms and attitudes are a result of either picking them up off my parents, or consciously avoiding picking up other habits from my parents. the thought that EVERYTHING I DO during the kid's life up until adolesence could influence the person he/she turns out to be is a fucking scary thought.
my point is, it's something think about, but i don't think anyone could ever be totally 100% certain that they do or do not want kids - hell, probably just about every expecting mother has worries and second thoughts, and same goes for every guy on his way to get a vasectomy. what doesn't help is the people who say things like "that's what life's about, having kids, raising a family" etc.
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