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well, he told her.
« on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:03 »

That is quite possibly the most painful expression I have ever seen on a comic character. Actually, both of them look pretty ready to curl up in a ball.
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Re: well, he told her.
« Reply #1 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:12 »

I know. It's so sad.
I wonder if Faye would still want to be with Sven if he apologized.
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« Reply #2 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:16 »

Is it just me or does Sven drop his Mug/glass in the last 5 panels?
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« Reply #3 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:19 »

I sort of doubt it. A lot of her issues with men revolve around trust. Her daddy betrayed her in about the biggest way a parent could. She's looking for someone pretty damned secure. Although you never know- they might just both get some growing up done and find a middle ground they can both live with.

I wonder if Sven didn't panic because he was scared of the commitment? It's funny they both actually have different facets of the same problem, neh?

Is it just me or does Sven drop his Mug/glass in the last 5 panels?

well, it was in his right hand and now it isn't. I don't see him dropping it, maybe settting it down in case he gets punched--he was obviously sort of worried about it  :laugh:


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« Reply #4 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:20 »

Man for some of us those expressions are far too accurate for comfort. This strip definitely does not help out people who read the comic and are in a similar situation.
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« Reply #5 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:21 »

It's good that he did, Faye would have gone bonkers if the intern had to tell her. I sense about a month's worth of Faye being conflicted now.
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« Reply #6 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:25 »

I'm pretty sure you mean his left hand, our right  :-P
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« Reply #7 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:27 »

dooowp! :laugh:
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« Reply #8 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:35 »

I think I almost cried. First time the comic really got to me. Usually it just makes me giggle, but wow.

I heart QC.
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« Reply #9 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:44 »

Poor Faye.  She just looked...disappointed.

Sven's probably never been less pleased to get out of a relationship so easily.
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« Reply #10 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:46 »

I usually don't get bummed out while reading about fictional characters, but oh, poor Faye looks so sad.  God, stupid fucking Sven!
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« Reply #11 on: 16 Feb 2009, 22:52 »

Funniest strip so far.
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« Reply #12 on: 16 Feb 2009, 23:08 »

this makes me wonder if angus will make another appearance... possible rebound material?
meh. the expression on faye's face in panel 4 is heartwrenching.
i have to say i hope they can work it out.
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« Reply #13 on: 16 Feb 2009, 23:12 »

Oh man a definite pull at your heart strings for Faye...And actually asking if he missed her? I think she was finally getting used to having a man in her life and yeah its probably another addition where a man has let her down..I sense a lot of depressed drinking after their meet......And if Sven was expecting a beat down from her he should definitely be worried about Dora now.... And I wonder how Marten will think about it all
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« Reply #14 on: 16 Feb 2009, 23:44 »

Not even the strip where Faye's dad shot himself made me feel quite this down...

Once Dora finds out... well, Jeph may have to think of an entire new genre of ways to depict violence. Whatever the result, I don't see Sven getting much sympathy from anyone of the regular cast. Well, Raven may see this as an opening to make advances, but with Sven being this big a dick, it might turn even her off (pun very much intended, assuming there was one).

I just hope Faye will somehow pull through this.



Jeez. I'm thinking of fictional characters as if they were real...
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Re: well, he told her.
« Reply #15 on: 17 Feb 2009, 01:22 »

I can see either or both of them now realising that they really  wanted this to work for real, and going all out to get it back; but whether Jeph will play it that way, who can tell?
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« Reply #16 on: 17 Feb 2009, 01:30 »

I'm sad for Fayes, but it was too predictable. Sven is not a stable person with relationships and she knew his past. And worst of all, she lost the oportunity to have a wonderful person (Marten). But it was all her choices. 
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« Reply #17 on: 17 Feb 2009, 02:24 »

so, I'm predicting Sven is going to get a visit from the tequila monster in the next couple of strips...  :roll:
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« Reply #18 on: 17 Feb 2009, 02:36 »

Ouch, my heart broke a little. Faye's face in panel 4.....
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« Reply #19 on: 17 Feb 2009, 02:47 »

Faye CANNOT be in a normal relationship as long as all her issues are unresolved. Well she can try but she will always end up getting hurt (not that I care she deserves all she's getting). She is a complete beginner when it comes to relationships and well the first couple always ends badly, with people usually making the bad choices on purpose. Her trust issues stopped her from staying with marten, a guy who has proven she can depend on him and that he wont leave her that easily. But she can try to share her trust with sven, a guy who she knows has spent a large part of his adult life philandering. That's a pretty common mistake in girls just on the dating scene. Picking guys that you know will hurt you, so that they can be happy everyday he hasn't hurt them yet, and have the illusion of having tamed him.

She knew how Sven is, she knew it was coming, well I dont see a reason to go blaming him, so I expect Faye to throw in a week of hate against the world, because she just cant stop hating herself.

PS: whoever said Faye's dad betrayed he in the hardest way possible: Suicide is not betrayal, do not make an assumption that he was running away from life without knowing the whole story. Suicide is hardly ever an act of cowardice. Cowards are the ones that talk about killing themselves but never get the balls to do it
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« Reply #20 on: 17 Feb 2009, 03:03 »



PS: whoever said Faye's dad betrayed he in the hardest way possible: Suicide is not betrayal, do not make an assumption that he was running away from life without knowing the whole story. Suicide is hardly ever an act of cowardice. Cowards are the ones that talk about killing themselves but never get the balls to do it
i'm not going to argue, because ever situation is different. but your point is very debateable.
for the most part i agree with you, but like you said we dont know the whole story, so any opinions any of us can make about faye's dad are all based on assumption. meh.
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« Reply #21 on: 17 Feb 2009, 03:25 »

Man this strip realy hurts,way not cool,if only there was a way for this not to have happened,or at least not as badly.


Damn that sucks,what next does Dora get cancer*Question mark*
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« Reply #22 on: 17 Feb 2009, 05:49 »

What makes her face in panel 3/4 even more depressing is how happy she looks in panel 1  :|
Poor Faye  :cry:
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« Reply #23 on: 17 Feb 2009, 06:24 »

PS: whoever said Faye's dad betrayed he in the hardest way possible: Suicide is not betrayal, do not make an assumption that he was running away from life without knowing the whole story. Suicide is hardly ever an act of cowardice. Cowards are the ones that talk about killing themselves but never get the balls to do it
Is it really fair to blame Faye for seeing it the way she does, though? What happened to her dad was not exactly a typical suicide case: he shot himself in front of his own kid.
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« Reply #24 on: 17 Feb 2009, 06:32 »

Am I the only one who didn't feel anything about this strip?
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« Reply #25 on: 17 Feb 2009, 06:36 »

I wonder if Faye will not really end up reacting it all.
I mean she got involved with Sven, all the while knowing he would end up doing something like that (but kinda hoping that maybe he wouldnt). So she put up restraints - Its not a relationship, they're just friends who fuck. But despite her intentions she got caught up in it all and got attatched. They were seeing each other on a regular basis and were pretty close.
Then Sven went and confirmed that nagging distrust. He really is just a cad. She should've known better and now shes probly feeling really foolish for thinking it would be any different.
I think maybe she'll just brush it off. Act like it really isnt a big deal, she was expecting it anyway. And shell just carry on like nothing happened. And everyone else will have extreme reactions for her. And Faye will just be rather blase about the whole thing. Even if it all is just a act.

Well thats my two cents anyways.


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« Reply #26 on: 17 Feb 2009, 07:01 »

YAY DEPRESSING COMIC WEEK #1

Its about damn time.
All we need now is for Dora's kitty do die, Raven gets the AIDS, and Wil ended up crashing his bike on an icy highway. Boom, 3 more days, 3 more strips. MAKE IT HAPPEN JEPH.
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« Reply #27 on: 17 Feb 2009, 07:12 »

PS: whoever said Faye's dad betrayed he in the hardest way possible: Suicide is not betrayal, do not make an assumption that he was running away from life without knowing the whole story. Suicide is hardly ever an act of cowardice. Cowards are the ones that talk about killing themselves but never get the balls to do it

It takes more balls to push through a tough situation and live life. Can't hack it so you end it? Pussy.

Suicide is the coward's way out. Life sucks. Get a helmet.
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« Reply #28 on: 17 Feb 2009, 07:56 »

This comic was really just one big OOF.
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« Reply #29 on: 17 Feb 2009, 08:03 »

I can see either or both of them now realising that they really  wanted this to work for real, and going all out to get it back; but whether Jeph will play it that way, who can tell?

oh quit being a hopeless optimist, you! :laugh:
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« Reply #30 on: 17 Feb 2009, 08:06 »

Actually, there's not really any other way for it to go for either of them without a new character happening to pop up.  And it could be hard work for them sorting this out, so still interesting.
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« Reply #31 on: 17 Feb 2009, 08:18 »

I've been through this as a younger man, so it's personally painful. I'm not a great man, or even a good one. But I am so grateful I'm not 20. I made so many mistakes as a kid. It's sort of humbling to realize what a shithead I was. The only good thing I can find from it is that I have tried hard not to be that heartless or stupid as a man. Sometimes it even works.
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« Reply #32 on: 17 Feb 2009, 09:19 »

 
I'm glad he manned up and told her himself. I really liked the way Faye reacted to the news. You could tell she was hurt and disappointed, but she didn't go all bananacrackers and make a big scene of it. I liked that Sven looked dejected when she just walked out. If Faye would have reacted the way Sven expected he could have gotten defensive and then told himself "good riddance" when she finally walked out. This way he doesn't get to rationalize the way things went down. Also, since he wasn't looking when she had that hurt face going, he has to kind of wonder if she didn't react as expected because he just wasn't that important. Which would be a kick in the ego for Sven.

On suicide:
Talking about it and pulling those half-assed attempts when you know someone is going to be there to "save" you is a cry for help, or attention, but in your heart or hearts you don't really want to die, you just want something to change. Really making the decision to die is not an easy thing. Survival is a primal instinct and to kill yourself you have to have gotten to the point where the pain is stronger than the innate desire to live. I don't think that the person who chooses to die is a coward, but I do think they've given up any hope of getting out of the situation they're living.

Yeah, life sucks, but wtf is a helmet going to do when the worst of it isn't coming at you from the outside? I've had PTSD since I was 7 and it more than sucks. I've spent pretty much all my life knowing that I'm going to be depressed, anxious and paranoid for the rest of my life and that occasionally the depression is going to slap me down so hard that I never want to get up again. It gets real effing old. So, no, I don't think badly of people who choose to die. I just think that, if as awful as things have gotten for me, I've never done it, how awful must things be for them that they did.

I think that as a parent you have certain responsibilities and I think one of those is to screw up your kids as little as possible. Some may see killing themselves and thereby removing themselves from their kid's lives is the best thing they can do for them. I don't think that you can always see things clearly in certain situations. You don't think about how suicide will impact your kids. I mean, if a kid will blame themselves for their parents divorcing, they will find a way to blame themselves for their parent killing themselves, they will see it as abandonment, they will be angry and you've now put suicide in their minds. I've seen this happen in my own family.
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« Reply #33 on: 17 Feb 2009, 09:24 »

 Sven is a jackass.

 As great as this strip is, I'm more interested in the aftermath.
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« Reply #34 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:03 »

PS: whoever said Faye's dad betrayed he in the hardest way possible: Suicide is not betrayal, do not make an assumption that he was running away from life without knowing the whole story. Suicide is hardly ever an act of cowardice. Cowards are the ones that talk about killing themselves but never get the balls to do it

It takes more balls to push through a tough situation and live life. Can't hack it so you end it? Pussy.

Suicide is the coward's way out. Life sucks. Get a helmet.

if suicide is the cowards way out why dont more people kill themselves every day then?
humans are in essence more cowardly and selfish then brave and altruistic.

So by your logic people should be taking the cowards way out of their problems more often then not.
It's against your most basic instincts to do something that you know for sure will end up with you dead.
It takes a serious mindset and a lot of balls do do something which your instincts contradict.

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« Reply #35 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:10 »


bananacrackers

im sorry once you use a word like that it is hard to take the rest of the post seriously.

I am personally shocked to see people want them to get back together, they were a terrible couple. I wanted to see a strip where it was post-coitous and Faye yelled Marten's name during and then Sven was all *arms folded* I would have laughed forever.

I think the facial expression in panel 5 is better then 4, as in it expresses the sad more effectively.

Sven's facial expression's of anticipation seem lost and I for one acknowledge that they make Faye's that much better.


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« Reply #36 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:12 »

It takes a serious mindset and a lot of balls do do something which your instincts contradict.


 Or a feeling that you have no alternative.
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« Reply #37 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:14 »

Sven is a jackass.

 As great as this strip is, I'm more interested in the aftermath.

I agree.  Faye looks so disappointed, too, like she had been genuinely hoping Sven would choose her.  I wonder if choosing a guy who screws whatever moves is a sign that she's punishing herself in some way, that she blames herself for her dad suiciding or if it's an outlet for her hate against herself.
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« Reply #38 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:18 »


Faye looks so disappointed, too, like she had been genuinely hoping Sven would choose her.  I wonder if choosing a guy who screws whatever moves is a sign that she's punishing herself in some way, that she blames herself for her dad suiciding or if it's an outlet for her hate against herself.

If she genuinely hoped that then she was fooling herself. they both said that it wasnt supposed to be monogomous, so really they are both at fault for not saying what they meant, doesnt mean i dont feel bad, but it's both of their faults.

also i believe she mentioned that she was pushing herself into something in a therapy session.
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« Reply #39 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:22 »

I like bananacrackers. It's a silly word. To me it fits for those moments someone loses it in an over-the-top way. I think many people expected it from Faye. Even though, with the exception of the Vespa Avenger, there is really no physical violence between the characters in QC. It's mentioned often, especially in relation to Faye, but you don't really see it.
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« Reply #40 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:23 »

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Faye looks so disappointed, too, like she had been genuinely hoping Sven would choose her.  I wonder if choosing a guy who screws whatever moves is a sign that she's punishing herself in some way, that she blames herself for her dad suiciding or if it's an outlet for her hate against herself.

If she genuinely hoped that then she was fooling herself. they both said that it wasnt supposed to be monogomous, so really they are both at fault for not saying what they meant, doesnt mean i dont feel bad, but it's both of their faults.

also i believe she mentioned that she was pushing herself into something in a therapy session.

 Well, that was always the theme. I mean, about eight strips or so all consisted of 'WE'RE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, OKAY?'

 Faye tricked herself into caring about Sven.
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« Reply #42 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:26 »

Violence is funny, always has been, always will be. and IMPLIED violence, well that is just gravy.

i remember back in the day when faye karate chopped a government agent, so there is also that, remember when pintsize had a laser, yeah, im not crazy.

so there is violence but it isnt over the top nor does it take away from the comic or characters.

also bananacrackers is a fine word im just saying when you follow it up with a suicide discussion it confuses my brain.


 Well, that was always the theme. I mean, about eight strips or so all consisted of 'WE'RE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, OKAY?'

 Faye tricked herself into caring about Sven.

I dont see how that obsolves them
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« Reply #43 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:33 »

Maybe not tricked herself - or maybe Im just having trouble with the wording. But for all intents and purposes it was supposed to be just a sexual arrangement. But it changed somewhere on some level and maybe they were treating a bit more like a relationship. Or maybe Faye just got a lil bit twisted who knows.
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« Reply #44 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:34 »

just goes to show you that if two people keep having sex someone will eventually get hurt.
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« Reply #45 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:37 »

Maybe not tricked herself - or maybe Im just having trouble with the wording. But for all intents and purposes it was supposed to be just a sexual arrangement. But it changed somewhere on some level and maybe they were treating a bit more like a relationship. Or maybe Faye just got a lil bit twisted who knows.

 Pretty much.
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« Reply #46 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:38 »

I'm talking about violence in between the regular QC characters, especially those in relationships. It's occasionally implied that it might happen, but it doesn't. People just seemed to be expecting Faye to jump on Sven and beat tar out of him.
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« Reply #47 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:40 »

that would be funny, im sure jeph has tons of sketches of it that he keeps in a vault guarded by gremlins
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« Reply #48 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:46 »

Oh my goodness.

Oh.

My.

Goodness.

I am SO glad it's my day off.  Because Jeph just basically handed me my "Get pickled for the rest of the day" card!

The name of the scotch, btw, is The Glenlivet.  It is a smooth, slightly smoky single-malt scotch.

I have to go now.  I've got a LOT of sipping to catch up on!

THANK YOU JEPH!!!  YOU ROCK!!!!

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« Reply #49 on: 17 Feb 2009, 10:46 »

i think you are in the wrong topic buddy.


try staying in the general course please
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