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[Norton Quintessential]

Oh, Skawronska: you're QC's most consistent troll.

[Helios05]

I actually hope they don't hook up.  I don't particularly like Angus, but I wouldn't wish Faye on him.  I'd rather see him reject her, especially considering the way she treated him in the past.

Well considering that seems that shitty treatment is kinda what Angus was looking for, I think that the past they had is a bonus for him, not a negative. Angus is something similar to me, being an asshole to me doesn't make me angry, I enjoy it, though unlike him, expect me to be an ass right back. When a typical night out with friends is going to a restaurant, playing video games, and talking shit about each other the whole time, the kind of talk Faye throws out is an invitation to be friends.

As for hooking up, well, I look at it this way. Faye needs someone with more integrity than Sven, but is also someone she has an interest in, hence, Angus. Angus wants someone he enjoys being with and can put up with his strangeness (need I remind you of the t-shirt and pants that were a slight against God?), hence, Faye. They may not be perfect, but they're what the other needs.   

[nimnix]

She threw him across a bar for talking to her.  Granted he was pushy, but not that pushy unless there was something else going on off-camera.  I just keep waiting for someone to tell her they're really tired of her bullshit and they're not gonna deal with it anymore.

[Norton Quintessential]

She threw him across a bar for talking to her. 

Honestly, something tells me he got off on that.

[nimnix]

He liked it enough to go back for more 

[Rocketman]

She threw him across a bar for talking to her.  Granted he was pushy, but not that pushy unless there was something else going on off-camera.  I just keep waiting for someone to tell her they're really tired of her bullshit and they're not gonna deal with it anymore.

She told him to go away several times before that and he refused to.

[Jeff7]

Now, I'm not usually this wierd, but is it me, or do Faye's boobs look especially good the last couple of times we've seen her?

 

Maybe Jeph's been drawing Dora and Hannelore for such a long time, he had to make up for it.

[Milesb]

You know, I can count the number of time travelers I've slept with, even without taking my socks off.  Not only is Angus suddenly very on the mark, but he's gotten Faye completely off balance. He seems to make her nervous, i.e. a little afraid, so I'm guessing the friend zone hasn't been entered.

Perhaps his insight is spillover from the epiphany that caused Angus to realize man does not love by sass alone. Or maybe he just spent the night at a Holiday Inn Express. *ducks shower of shoes, tomatoes, etc.*

Very suddenly on the mark for a dude who's primary interaction with her in the past has been recieving insults from her. I fear this is forcing the plot arc somewhat too much for me to enjoy. I'd have enjoyed it so much more if she's started getting interested in Angus while sleepin' with Sven. At least it'd be a slightly new dynamic for QC.

[Border Reiver]

Red or green?

Green, unless I'm in "save the kitty" mode. 

However, I do not wear capes.  No capes.

So you wear underwear on the outside of your tights?

[Mallli_kite]

Red or green?

Green, unless I'm in "save the kitty" mode. 

However, I do not wear capes.  No capes.

So you wear underwear on the outside of your tights?

Don't need no stinkin' underwear.

[img width= height=]http://www.museculture.com/Paragons/screenshot_0051.jpg[/img]

[raoullefere]

Omigod, Malli Kite is secretly the Tick Tickess!  (Tickette? She-Tick?) 
Wait, that's a C on her chest...the Blue Cockroach? Ew.
On the other hand, 'tis true I see no panty-lines. She's commando. And has loooonnnnggg gams.



On Angus, I think maybe his last romance chilled him on being tossed around and such. That's why I said he had an epiphany.

[St.Clair]

I just don't see Angus and Faye getting together any time soon.  Of course, it might be just as much fun watching them try not to get together.  Much denial.

Faye is very good at denial.

However, it seems that Angus is even better at recognizing and cutting through denial.

[Border Reiver]

Perhaps he had fewer psychological issues to work through first - or maybe Jeph just needed a secondary character to say it out loud.

[akronnick]

That is just what Faye needs: someone who cares for her, likes her, is willing to put up with her crap, while simultaneously unwilling to let her slide on it or use it to avoid things (and people).

[Rocketman]

Omigod, Malli Kite is secretly the Tick Tickess!  (Tickette? She-Tick?) 
Wait, that's a C on her chest...the Blue Cockroach? Ew.
On the other hand, 'tis true I see no panty-lines. She's commando. And has loooonnnnggg gams.

There's either an unfortunately-placed line there, or that game is a bit too accurate on the skintight+no underwear front.

On a different note, the best bug to use as a superhero moniker is the roly-poly.

[Fenriswolf]

^^lol @ the roly poly. They are kinda cute in a way.

As for ze comic: Heh. Go intern!

I for one am creeped out by the "OMG Faye is talking to a boy! They must hook up!" Or just "Faye is single, who will she hook up with!" sentiment. Eugh, life is not entirely based around romantic relationships.  I did rather like Angus in the last strip though.

[akronnick]

This isn't Life! This is a Webcomic! You can't take this away from us! WE NEED THIS!!`111!!!!

[/Richard Gere in Officer and a Gentlemen]

Ok, I'm better know.

I have so little sympathy for Sven right now it's not even funny.

Where's the Allosaurus when you need him anyway.

[Milesb]

Eugh, life is not entirely based around romantic relationships. 

The QC universe kind of is though. I guess that's why we all like reading it =p

I would also like to feel slightly sorry for Sven but I'm finding it slightly difficult. I don't dislike his character at this point, but he's certainly not in a position where I feel sympathy for him.

[sophle]

OMFG YOU GUYZ IS FAYE GONNA GET WITH ANGUS OR SVEN!?!?!?!?????????????




sorry.

[akronnick]

Both.

At the same time.

/tilts head

[Shadic]

Good old emo Sven.

[Is it cold in here?]

When Faye started that kind of moaning around Sven, he hit her with a rolled up magazine.

Sven needs a rolled up magazine to the head right now.

[akronnick]

To bad he fucked over the one chick who would enthusiastically whack him like he needs.

[cory54321]

Both.

At the same time.

/tilts head

Interesting...

/tilts head as well

[snubnose]

Sven needs a rolled up magazine to the head right now.

I disagree.

If he doesnt even know WHY he feels bad, he needs to think more. A lot more.

[Border Reiver]

Well at least now he can vget that heartfelt sound now for his next country song.  And as soon as he looses the dog and the truck, he'll have completed the country trifecta.

[kurzon]

Heh - Sven's trying to process new concepts.

I _didn't_ like her that much.

But I _feel bad_.

[Mallli_kite]

Omigod, Malli Kite is secretly the Tick Tickess!  (Tickette? She-Tick?) 
Wait, that's a C on her chest...the Blue Cockroach? Ew.
On the other hand, 'tis true I see no panty-lines. She's commando. And has loooonnnnggg gams.



On Angus, I think maybe his last romance chilled him on being tossed around and such. That's why I said he had an epiphany.

Chicklette, actually, ahd her loyal sidekick Mothman.   Made 'em as a joke.  She was a nail technician in a salon when aliens attacked her homeworld.  A stray energy bolt hit her station and combined with all the chemicals, coating her and making her invulnerable.

She's about the silliest.  I reserved pictures of the truly drool inducing ones on my account.


SVEN!  YOU NEED TO THINK MORE ON THIS AND GROW UP!  

Although, technically he's right, it isn't fair, he didn't agree to monogamy. The world is kinda like that.  Nevertheless, he did something, planned or not, that hurt someone else, and he owes an apology.  It would be a big step up in the world and in general personal growth to own up that his own actions caused shit to happen.  And Dora should really stop bashing him around, but that's a whole 'nuther discussion.

Lydia, on the other hand, has redeemed herself-- just a bit -- in my eyes while still managing to be somewhat patronizing.  However, I now expect that behavior from her.  

[lily-kiernan]

I don't know guys, I think that maybe we're processing this from the point of view of our protagonist, Faye. From his point of view, FROM WHAT HE COULD SEE, he was hooking up with one chick, like he had so many times previously, this outwardly strong girl who was willing to give him shit, who was his intellectual superior. Who would obviously be able to handle anything, right? So, he sleeps with another girl, and feels terrible about it, because he really did like Faye. If he didn't, he wouldn't have had any problem with it: she was just a hookup, after all. So he fesses up to it, and instead of being defensive at her aloofness, he feels worse. HE HAS SOUL.

I really sympathize with him. I've never been in this situation, or anything remotely like it, but I think I can understand why he's feeling as bad as he is: he really likes Faye. And Faye doesn't know it.

On another note: the minute I'm willing to give up my severe insect phobia, the rolly-poly bug will be the first on the "cute" list.

[MamiyaOtaru]

On a different note, the best bug to use as a superhero moniker is the roly-poly.[/img]

So what part of the country is that from?  I grew up calling them pill bugs.  Also, was going to post a giant isopod picture, but Faye beat me to it

[pwhodges]

Gosh! Wikipedia knows that they were called cheeselogs in the town where I grew up.

[Mallli_kite]

I don't know guys, I think that maybe we're processing this from the point of view of our protagonist, Faye. From his point of view, FROM WHAT HE COULD SEE, he was hooking up with one chick, like he had so many times previously, this outwardly strong girl who was willing to give him shit, who was his intellectual superior. Who would obviously be able to handle anything, right? So, he sleeps with another girl, and feels terrible about it, because he really did like Faye. If he didn't, he wouldn't have had any problem with it: she was just a hookup, after all. So he fesses up to it, and instead of being defensive at her aloofness, he feels worse. HE HAS SOUL.

I really sympathize with him. I've never been in this situation, or anything remotely like it, but I think I can understand why he's feeling as bad as he is: he really likes Faye. And Faye doesn't know it.

On another note: the minute I'm willing to give up my severe insect phobia, the rolly-poly bug will be the first on the "cute" list.

Lily, I agree with you on Sven.  I still think he should apologize and mean it, which also means he has to extend himself a bit -- I mean, obviously Faye was more emotionally involved than he realized, and apparently he is also more involved than he thought he was -- he has to get over the feeling sorry for himself part and move on to how OTHER people might feel.  I suspect that will shake his world up a bit.

However, I can't get with you on the cute bug thing. My phobia and I will be cowering in the corner with the RAID.

[innermoppet]

Just for the sake of argument, lets assume that Sven ISN'T romantically interested in Faye. Even if he genuinely can't fathom a relationship with her, he did the one thing I don't think he's ever done. He became friends with a woman first. He established a connection that was not based on sex. He doesn't do that. Unlike Marten who is surrounded by platonic female relationships, Sven had no female friends before Faye. So now he this friendship all tangled up in his sex life which is exactly what he has always avoided. It's a lot easier to hurt people if you have no connection to them beyond sex.

Sven is feeling some extreme self pity because for once, he saw the consequences of his behavior. He saw how much he hurt Faye. Her face in that scene broke my heart. Romantic entanglement aside, who wouldn't feel like garbage seeing that? Whether or not Faye's hurt was justified, it hurts to hurt someone else.

For some reason Sven is reminding me this one Dilbert comic. Wally laments that he pet a cat for an hour and it didn't make him feel good. It was explained to him that petting was for the cat, not for him and so he exclaims that cats are terribly selfish. He didn't get that the good feelings come from doing something kind for another creature.

Telling Faye was the right and kind thing to do. Not because she expected monogamy but because it put her in the position of being able to deal with an honest situation so she could make healthy choices for herself. Everyone deserves that right.

But for Sven, it's hard to understand that there is no reward FOR HIM for telling the truth. When you are a narcissist and/or a person with very little moral code, I can see how honesty would just seem ridiculous.

[raoullefere]

My, my. Lydia is, well, I don't know another word for it: snaking. Yes, if we could see it, her head is definitely weaving from side to side in that last panel. I'm liking her more and more.

Oh, Sven has a reward; it's simply not good enough for him. I guess I'm cheap, but someone who's been critical of me (whom I know is correct) saying she's proud of me would feel pretty good, even in my misery. But, of course, it's the knowing (or admitting, anyway) that Lyds is right that's the kicker. Hopefully, though, Sven will grow up enough to thank her in the end someday.

Damn Freudian slips.

[Rocketman]

So what part of the country is that from?  I grew up calling them pill bugs.  Also, was going to post a giant isopod picture, but Faye beat me to it

I grew up in south Mississippi and never heard them called anything but roly-polys.

[Alphalpha]

I've never called them anything but 'woodlice'. I've never heard the name 'roly-polys' but Animal Crossing called them 'pill bugs' so I know that one.

PREDICTION:

Faye and Angus start something up. Nothing sexual, but definitely a close relationship. THEN just as things are going really well, Sven finally has the epiphany we all want him to experience and he and Faye spend the night doing sexy things. Faye feels really guilty because she cheated(ish) on Angus, but is torn because she likes Sven too, as we all know.

Obviously this won't happen right away, but give it a few weeks (in real time, not QC time)...

[Is it cold in here?]

Sven needs a rolled up magazine to the head right now.

I disagree.

If he doesnt even know WHY he feels bad, he needs to think more. A lot more.

And to do that he needs to crawl out of the self-pity hole, 'cause you can't see out when you're in it. Faye was stuck feeling sorry for herself, Sven bopped her out of it. Now Sven is too busy with the "what did it get me" game to do the hard thinking he needs, like "how do I feel about Faye".

After getting a rolled up magazine in 983, Faye acquired some perspective and realized she should apologize to Marten. Sven needs that kind of jolt now.

[Shadic]

Just for the sake of argument, lets assume that Sven ISN'T romantically interested in Faye. Even if he genuinely can't fathom a relationship with her, he did the one thing I don't think he's ever done. He became friends with a woman first. He established a connection that was not based on sex. He doesn't do that. Unlike Marten who is surrounded by platonic female relationships, Sven had no female friends before Faye. So now he this friendship all tangled up in his sex life which is exactly what he has always avoided. It's a lot easier to hurt people if you have no connection to them beyond sex.

Hello, Harriet.

[lisavilisa]

Just for the sake of argument, lets assume that Sven ISN'T romantically interested in Faye. Even if he genuinely can't fathom a relationship with her, he did the one thing I don't think he's ever done. He became friends with a woman first. He established a connection that was not based on sex. He doesn't do that. Unlike Marten who is surrounded by platonic female relationships, Sven had no female friends before Faye. So now he this friendship all tangled up in his sex life which is exactly what he has always avoided. It's a lot easier to hurt people if you have no connection to them beyond sex.

This made me see a weird parallel between Faye-Sven and Dora-Marten. 

Dora is a very sexual person who is fine with romantic relationships and casual sex.
Faye is a very guarded person who is defensive even with her closest friends.

Martin is used to having girls who are platonic friends.
Sven is used to only having girlfriends and one night stands, no female friendships.

Martin and Sven both found their exceptions to the rule in Dora and Faye respectively.

[raoullefere]

And to do that he needs to crawl out of the self-pity hole, 'cause you can't see out when you're in it. Faye was stuck feeling sorry for herself, Sven bopped her out of it. Now Sven is too busy with the "what did it get me" game to do the hard thinking he needs, like "how do I feel about Faye".

To set a seven-foot rim above the self-pity hole (Sven seems tall), I get the distinct impression that Sven has never seriously thought about how he feels about anyone. It's one of the reasons Wil irratates him (Wil seems to spend more time thinking about how he feels than actually doing anything about it).

In other words, even if he does climb out, is Sven going to have any idea how to proceed from there?

Still, he may have assistance in this. Too often nothing clarifies how you feel about someone as well as seeing them with someone else. You definitely reach a conclusion, and quickly, even if it's the wrong one.

edit: Irratates = irritates = WTF is wrong with me? Irratates is what the Red Baron does to Snoopy.

[MamiyaOtaru]

So what part of the country is that from?  I grew up calling them pill bugs.  Also, was going to post a giant isopod picture, but Faye beat me to it

I grew up in south Mississippi and never heard them called anything but roly-polys.

Heh I was born in Mississippi.  Grew up in Texas though.  But the parents are from elsewhere (Air Force kid) so maybe I got it from them.  Surely there's a website out there that documents this stuff   Google here I come.

[danjc2]

Aah, its been forever since i posted. Fangus is on the horizon people!

On another note, its my 1year QC anniversary! I have been reading QC since April 1st last year, and i plan to be reading it much longer!

[akronnick]

I too was roped in by the xkcd redirect. I still haven't seen any homeopathic donut water in stores.

[Kugai]

By the time Sven realizes just what he's really fucked up, Faye will be doing the horizontal tango with Angus. 

And once you get past the Laser Cave, you have to deal with the Allosaurus

[Milesb]

I will laugh hard indeed if Angus actually just gave Faye his number while pretending it was someone else's.

[Mallli_kite]

Yeah, Sven has been living a rather narcissistic existence until now.  I don't think he's got a full blown personality disorder, just a tiny one he can -- with luck -- grow out of.  *sigh*  I still like him pretty well.  He has the capacity for self awareness.  He's just never been pushed to USE it much up to now.

I am NOT going near the laser cave without my reflective suit.  Also, explosives.

 

[innermoppet]

Just for the sake of argument, lets assume that Sven ISN'T romantically interested in Faye. Even if he genuinely can't fathom a relationship with her, he did the one thing I don't think he's ever done. He became friends with a woman first. He established a connection that was not based on sex. He doesn't do that. Unlike Marten who is surrounded by platonic female relationships, Sven had no female friends before Faye. So now he this friendship all tangled up in his sex life which is exactly what he has always avoided. It's a lot easier to hurt people if you have no connection to them beyond sex.

Hello, Harriet.

Sven isn't friends with Harriet. She's his lawyer so she's a business associate. He hits on her as well but she said she "likes his money too much" to go beyond that. I haven't seen enough of their dynamic to call that a friendship. She didn't say Sven was her friend to Faye, she said he was her "client".

I guess my point is that he doesn't have friendships with women that aren't loaded with the weight of potential sex, such as when he met Penelope (but I can't find the link).

[Border Reiver]

Now if we get through the laser cave what sort of booby trapped treasure chest do we find?

[pwhodges]

Sven isn't friends with Harriet.

Oh yeah?

[celticgeek]

I guess my point is that he doesn't have friendships with women that aren't loaded with the weight of potential sex, such as when he met Penelope (but I can't find the link).

Sven and Penelope