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[SirJuggles]

Let's face it. We like to think of ourselves as open-minded folks. And for the most part many of us are. But there is some bad music out there. Whatever your taste may be, there is probably something else that you simply can not stand. And that's ok. But every once in a while we let that categorical loathing get in the way of open appreciation. So why not take another look at that trash, and say something nice about it?

Case in point: I have never been a smooth jazz fan. All my life my dad has played his stacks of jazz CD's, all our radios have been tuned to the smooth jazz station. And I just can't bear it. It's so slow, the rhythms so boring. The vocals on some of the more mainstream albums he listens to have at points made me wish to leap from speeding cars. But my exposure to my school's big-band jazz program has softened me up a little. Sure, I'd still rather sit through a Carlos Mencia marathon than listen to a whole CD. But true, quality jazz music takes skill. Horn and brass instruments can be used to make some really cool music. And perhaps more than anything else I've realized I do in fact enjoy good jazz drumming. So while it's not my favorite, smooth jazz music is far from terrible.


*note: I originally intended to focus on a single band, but I couldn't find a redeeming quality to the Jonas Brothers  On that note, can we please refrain from "Yeah but there's nothing good at all about THIS band". That's missing the point.

[Tom]

Well...uh, the kids like it... I suppose.

[Cire27]

I'm Not a Fan, But the Kids Like It!

[Caspian]

Let's face it. We like to think of ourselves as open-minded folks.

We do? I for one think that label is stupid.

"If you open your mind too much, your brains will fall out"

[Thrillho]

I don't really have any particular style of music that I hate, because I'll usually try anything once.

But I'd say that processed, manufactured pop music is something I usually don't like. I don't mean just anything that's catchy, or ALL music that's not jazz or classical or whatever. I mean like the Spice Girls.

Pop music is a precise, refined art now and the tiny musical nuances a lot of these songs have I always find interesting, because you can trace these tricks and cadences and such into more credible music.

Plus, often the production is dead on. One problem with a lot of non-pop albums is that the production can be all wrong for the music being made, but in pop music because it's only meant to put over the person singing, the instruments surronding it are all perfectly played. They do exactly what is required and nothing else - something which can be a problem when you have a band with egos and such.

[MadassAlex]

Although I'd argue that a singer's ego is just as bad. Nothing objectively separates the value of singing from the value of a non-vocal instrument.

I suppose I dislike electronic music a lot. The vocals seem to follow a pattern that I can't accurately describe, but it's all in the similar use of intervallic leaps. I find the harmonies generally uninteresting and the lack of any real emphasis on varied, changing non-vocal melodies (such as you might find in instrumental sections of rock and metal) make the music boring and stale to me. Indeed, I might even consider the musicians, dare I say, small-minded for not taking full advantage of the electronic nature of the music and doing things with the sound that cannot be done with instruments.
After all, what's the point of breaking the technical boundaries of instruments if your music is:

Dum dum dadadum dumdumdum "Voo-aaa-caal meeeeh-loh-deeeee!" Wee woo wee woo dadadum

On the other hand

A lot of the vocalists seem to have very powerful range. The rhythms themselves can be quite interesting and fun. The potential in electronic music is otherworldly. I respect their capacity to write music without actually touching an instrument - just conceptualising it in their head and then putting it into the machine.

Note: Not talking about techno. I'm talking about the likes of The Presets.

[Thrillho]

Although I'd argue that a singer's ego is just as bad. Nothing objectively separates the value of singing from the value of a non-vocal instrument.

You have a point there but it was the production I Was talking about, not the vocal.

[valley_parade]

Deerhoof make good music, aside from that woman's voice.

[Avec]

Coldplay could get away with their first album sounding slightly original.

[TheFuriousWombat]

I was actually going to post something similar. Parachutes is not half bad at all. There are actually some very nice songs on it. Sure, there are some duds mixed in but 'Trouble' and 'Sparks' and a couple others are certainly listenable.

[imapiratearg]

Nickelback's lyrics are kind of nice?  Sometimes?  I mean, they had a couple songs that weren't "I suck at life.  I cannot go on."

[Avec]

Dwayne Michael Carter, Jr, Lil Wayne makes catchy party music.

[Christophe]

Billy Corgan, you are a pretty funny guy.

Attack Attack!, you have given this forum more than a week's worth of ecstasy resulting from your shitty, but even more ridiculous music.

Jet, you sure picked a good Iggy Pop song to rip off.

Dexter Holland, you are a very educated man.

Pennywise, when I was 11 and played that ESPN snowboarding game on the original Playstation, I thought your song was the best when I played the half-pipe level.

Chad Kroeger, you are not my roommate.

[Avec]

Alright seriously, we've all listened to Limp Bizkit at one point or another and moved our head to the beat.

[MadassAlex]

All of us?

[The Joker]

I guess playing death metal would be hard on the vocal chords, so...perseverance and endurance, I guess.  And I suppose speed metal would make your arm tired, so same there.

[Avec]

Singing along in your head counts too.

[Kyros]

I can appreciate how difficult it probably is to play Progressive Rock I suppose.

Justice's songs sound pretty OK the first time you hear them.

[David_Dovey]

I am pretty sure the crunky autotune stuff would be pretty sweet if I was pretty drunk and in a dancing mood and if there was an attractive lady within my personal area

[imapiratearg]

Yeah.

[David_Dovey]

Actually come to think of it the "attractive lady" thing was an afterthought but on further consideration it is most certainly crucial.

[Johnny C]

The music of the Insane Clown Posse serves as a focal point for a community of people who otherwise may not have any real sense of it. Juggalos are as they are because of the variety of factors, and the existence of a network of people who relate to the same things in the Insane Clown Posse's music and do so very strongly simply gives people who might otherwise feel isolated from the world at large a sense of connection to their fellow person.

[altered_carbon]

Stone Temple Pilots...They're elegant bachelors.

[Be My Head]

I guess Metalcore/Deathcore gives people who don't have the ability to think for themselves a refuge against having to TRY and think for themselves.

[David_Dovey]

Hooray condescension masked as tolerance!

[Sox]

Rob Zombie: you do not live in my house.

[20 jazz funk greats]

the same can also be said for the postal service.

[Thrillho]

The music of the Insane Clown Posse serves as a focal point for a community of people who otherwise may not have any real sense of it. Juggalos are as they are because of the variety of factors, and the existence of a network of people who relate to the same things in the Insane Clown Posse's music and do so very strongly simply gives people who might otherwise feel isolated from the world at large a sense of connection to their fellow person.

Johnny, I say without sarcasm that I love this post and it is my favourite of yours.

[Scarychips]

well, i'm sure death cab for cutie has gotten a lot of dudes laid by putting it on a mix cd with shitty hand-drawn artwork involving vines and sweaters so power to them

Hey!



Thanks for the idea.

[TheFuriousWombat]

well, i'm sure death cab for cutie has gotten a lot of dudes laid by putting it on a mix cd with shitty hand-drawn artwork involving vines and sweaters so power to them

Yup.

[JD]

Alright seriously, we've all listened to Limp Bizkit at one point or another and moved our head to the beat.

Nah

[pwhodges]

So why not take another look at that trash, and say something nice about it?

I only hate stuff that is beyond redemption.

[Christophe]

Led Zeppelin make good music, aside from that woman's voice.

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[Johnny C]

well, i'm sure death cab for cutie has gotten a lot of dudes laid by putting it on a mix cd with shitty hand-drawn artwork involving vines and sweaters so power to them

the only reason i'm defensive about this is because i'm a proponent of the shitty hand-drawn mix cd artwork

[MrBlu]

I'm Not a Fan, But the Kids Like It!

+1 Awesome post.

Uhh... I hate BrokenCYDE... The guy managed to do a song with Lil' Kim, and Lil' Kim IS hot.

[Zingoleb]

The Cars..sure can palm mute.

[Sox]

Is tribute to this thread, she is so so great, no?

Si si.
Salute BRW!

Rob Zombie, you still don't live in my house.

[Tom]

Oh hey, Greenday your musics sound pretty rockin'.

[Tom]

Billy Joe, I understand you it's okay (we're pretty well fucked) at least you're not the Living End ...

[Tom]

just please don't shit all over my god damn city with your cash cow.

[Useless_Proverb]

I still dont find any redeeming qualities to Grindcore.

[Zingoleb]

Slipknot...

um...

You have three times as many drummers as most people do, and that's a lot.

[MrBlu]

WAS hot.

[iamiam]

dear brokenCYDE,

thank you for teaching me that if i ever want to get laid by over 5000 underage girls then all i have to do is start a shitty crunk band.  that is useful to know.

also, thank you for choosing a pig as your mascot.  perhaps by presenting swine in an anthropomorphic, almost human, manner you have gotten people to reconsider the way they view their animal friends.  maybe the next time a scenester kid is about to eat delicious bacon, they will remember their friend the crunk pig and refrain from consuming his brethren's flesh.  on the flip side, all of those who are disgusted and repelled by your music might find the taste of pork tainted as they now associate anything to do with pigs with your terrible screaming.  as a vegetarian, i appreciate this.

ps, douche with the hot pink shirt... i'll admit it.  you would be pretty cute if you weren't so gross.

[scarred]

Well, shitty techno, we meet again - at least you're fun to mindlessly dance to for a few minutes.

Gangsta Rap - has given something for Tipper Gore to complain about, thus keeping her attention away from other aspects of our culture, such as violent videogames and the use of the n-word, the f-word (gay one), etc. on network TV. At noon. On a Sunday. (TBS: O Brother Where Art Thou?. Great movie. But really? No censorship?)

Uhhm... hip hop is bringing poetry to the masses? Set to a beat? I guess... piffle!

J-Bros. Thanks for proving that you don't have to be a young blonde tan girl to annoy the hell out of the music industry.

[imapiratearg]

Those Jonas Brothers sure are good at lip-syncing and pretending to play guitars.  Keep it up, guys!

[iamiam]

dear jonas brothers,

thank you for attempting to teach 13 year olds chaste moral values.  maybe dumb young girls who salivate over you silly little christian boys are then too distracted to consider women like lady gaga or heidi montag as role models for how to dress and behave. i don't know any of your songs but i am pretty sure you are not singing about how girls need to suck your dick to earn your love and attention! i appreciate this!

[pinkpiche]

I guess in the event of a misled teenager who will later see the light and contemplate the true progression of music and art in a mixed relationship between awesomeness and virgins in doveblue skirts, at age 12 he or she lives and breathes Papa Roach or The Fray will somehow be redeemed for his past actions in mosh pits where he acted like a ninja.

[SWOON! at My Gravitas]

Dear Norwegian black metal,

Your music sounds pretty okay when you don't record it on an answering machine in a public restroom.

Signed,
your secret admirer

[The Joker]

Led Zeppelin make good music.

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