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Marigold and Warcraft
« on: 16 Aug 2009, 09:04 »

You know, I've been thinking. Jeph's made it pretty damn obvious Marigold's a player of World of Warcraft. Okay, we know that much, but what does she play?

Alliance? Horde? Race? Class?

Since we have her complaining about hunters in one of her Twitter things (tweets? I'm too out of the loop) about hunters, so I'm kinda guessing she plays a rogue. I know on my rogue I sure as hell have had hunter issues.

She doesn't seem like the stuck up elitist that most Horde players are (I know there are nice Horde players out there, but as a whole), but she doesn't seem like she'd be your generic Alliance picked-them-because-they're-pretty person.

I'm gonna throw my guess in for Troll Rogue though.

Edit: Spelling is knowledge, knowledge is power.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #1 on: 16 Aug 2009, 09:43 »

Psst, it's Jeph.  People will maim you if you don't get it right.  They will literally* come to your home and severely injure you.

* Not literally.
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« Reply #2 on: 16 Aug 2009, 10:20 »

I think she has a bit of everything. Strip 1469 says she has multiple characters.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #3 on: 16 Aug 2009, 12:16 »

this thread is the nerdiest thing i've seen in quite a while
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #4 on: 16 Aug 2009, 13:40 »

this thread is the nerdiest thing i've seen in quite a while
Awesome, to make sure it stays this way I'll go get my dice and player manuals.

Psst, it's Jeph.  People will maim you if you don't get it right.  They will literally* come to your home and severely injure you.

* Not literally.
Thanks for the correction. I would not like people to literally (not literally) maim me. I like myself severe injury free.

I think she has a bit of everything. Strip 1469 says she has multiple characters.
This is true, and probably most likely, but what do you think she mains as? Even people with a bunch of characters have a couple they'll stick to.
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« Reply #5 on: 16 Aug 2009, 13:41 »

She looks and acts like a hardcore player, which would suggest the Horde. But due to the multiple accounts, I think she plays both. Whatever side she plays, I'm betting Rogue is her class, due to the Hunter problems.
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« Reply #6 on: 16 Aug 2009, 14:18 »


She doesn't seem like the stuck up elitist that most Horde players are (I know there are nice Horde players out there, but as a whole), but she doesn't seem like she'd be your generic Alliance picked-them-because-they're-pretty person.


 I genuinely believe that most of the distinction between Horde and Alliance players comes down to the simple fact that some people have extremely active imaginations. FRAPs and a few world first guilds are a poor thing to base stereotypes upon, yet that seems to be a common occurrence despite the fact that outfits like Ensidia are noteworthy because they aren't the norm. The funniest bit to me is that most of the guys I know who talk shit about Horde are also people who insist that they would never, ever play Horde either, which sort of amazes me since they seem so certain of what life on the other side of the fence must be like. I suspect that the minority of players who actually do live up to the stereotypes probably gravitated to one side or another based on the perception that certain traits were more common there than on the other side. Kind of like the theory that mobsters imitated the mannerisms and slang found in movies/radio rather than vice versa. People have a way of living up to expectations.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #7 on: 16 Aug 2009, 15:51 »

Obviously she plays Sniper, because she's not very social. Snipers don't need to communicate with their team much, aside from yelling "spy" and listening for decloak sounds.

Oh wait... Sorry, wrong game.

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« Reply #8 on: 16 Aug 2009, 16:25 »

Naw she totally plays pyro
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« Reply #9 on: 16 Aug 2009, 16:35 »

Spy. She wants to get out there, she's just afraid of getting noticed at a bad time.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #10 on: 16 Aug 2009, 18:23 »

this thread is the nerdiest thing i've seen in quite a while

You should see the WoW thread in the computer forum. Nerdy acronyms ahoy!
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« Reply #11 on: 16 Aug 2009, 21:03 »

Could she be a spy? She talks all the time about sieges, which suggests she plays a fairly active role in them. And she may be shy in person, but there's nothing to say she's not a completely different person online(which is very common).
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« Reply #12 on: 17 Aug 2009, 02:56 »

Pretty sure she would exclusively play Zerg, but has played the other factions just to be sure of what they can do. Knowing the enemy and all that.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #13 on: 17 Aug 2009, 20:48 »

As arguably one of the only other girl WoW players, I'd like to add some input to the discussion.
The appeal of women to the Horde is that they feel they can be taken seriously because at first glance the Horde seems more "hard core." And since the Burning Crusade introduced Blood Elves, even more girls are drawn to the horde.
I really don't think Marigold is a Blood Elf for 2 main reasons.
First and foremost, Belfs (Blood Elves for you noobs) are a BC creation. I pin Marigold as a player who's been around since vanilla wow (the original World of Warcraft). Secondly, I don't think she'd like to conform to the stereotype that Belfs are people who just want an attractive character. Obviously everyone wants their toon to look cool, but the reputation a lot of Belfs get is that they were too vain to roll anything else. 
        My theory is that she started out on horde and as she played more, she created alliance toons as well. She seems like a girl who really wants to experience the entire game.
Obviously she's not a hunter, but no one likes them so whatev ;3
I like the idea of a rogue and, as stated before, it explains the hunter problems. I definitely see her as a dps class. Some may argue for tank or heals but I just can't see her as a priest or druid if you know what I mean. I've already explained why i think she's not a Blood elf and by extension and horde paladin as her primary character. But I'd like to back up the paladin idea in that I can't see her "hiding" behind plate armor to get the job done. Thus Warriors are also out.
 I think a warlock would also fit her personality. Any squishy dps class really :\

As another completely random topic: I'd like to go into the reasons she plays Wow and how it had thus affected her personality.
People play online RPGs for 2 main reasons (if you can think of another please enlighten me) A. To personify themselves as their character and B. To "get away from it all
Type A players play because they like inserting themselves into the game.
Type B players like to create a character as someone who is close or completely their opposite. Someone they wish they could be.
Ex. I am a type B player. In real life ( the RL ) I'm softspoken, shy, and a complete coward. srsly. In Wow I play a druid tank. I turn into a 600lb bear and my role in a raid is to take the damage while the dps pew pew the boss. Because the imaginary wall is there, I feel free to be more outgoing because I can't get hurt. (unless the healers not doing their job;) )
I and other addicted players around the world, feel safe in Wow because we can't get hurt. Its a system that feeds off itself and as I feel more comfortable in wow I feel more out of place IRL because I've come accustomed to the wall. Same reason for Marigold (and countless others). Fortunately for both of us we have awesome friends that make us go out even when we have a raid :D
        So back to Marigold. IMO She's a type B player, with a little type A mixed in, she wants to be strong and threatening so she created a character who's sole job it is to kill (thus the rogue or warlock). And she's type A because she chose the class 'cause she sees herself as clever. (So not a mage)
Rogues are seen as an "in your face" class. They're the definition of melee dps. Stab Stab and whatnot. The original gangsters.
Warlocks are more, "Just try and touch me." Their goal is to kill you before you can touch them. And while rogues might have more problems with hunter, so can anyone.

Unfortunately due to the Great Rogue Nerf of Patch 3.2 if she is a rogue I feel sorry for her atm.

PS- You wanna talk about hunter problems? Try being a feral druid ("Fear Animal")
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #14 on: 17 Aug 2009, 21:42 »

The damage portion of the 3.2.2 nerf hits me as frankly really, really stupid, but I figured the interrupt nerf was a long time coming. Most guilds and rogues don't properly utilize the potential of Throwing Specialization in a raid setting, but it's actually surprisingly useful in Ulduar and I've actually been using that and the FoK glyph as one of my dual spec options for months now. For example, it lets me easily lock out one of Yogg's corrupter tentacles indefinitely, and all I really had to give up to do so was Weapon Expertise, which is a very good dps talent but one that you actually can live without at high gear levels; my rogue is at the point where it takes some creativity not to go flying over the expertise softcap as it is anyway, so giving up a pinch of DPS my guild hardly needs anymore in exchange for some utility is a no brainer. I've interrupted literally hundreds of spells per Yogg clear essentially by happy accident thanks to that spec.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #15 on: 18 Aug 2009, 03:01 »

I wonder if she dances on the mailboxes in Darnassus nekkid
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #16 on: 18 Aug 2009, 04:02 »

I suppose if Jeph does keep up with what goes on in WoW (He at least acknowledged Ulduar, but a look at the front page could tell you about things like that), I suppose we might find out through an update on her Twitter whenever her opinion of what's going on.

I really do think Marigold might play a Horde character, it seems much harder to peg her as your average alliance player (keyword: average). I'll stand by the troll rogue idea that I had earlier with what she probably mains as. Why troll? Hell if I know, seems like a decent fit. Rogue seems to fit the hunter difficulties, since having played main rogue as I started, I still have issues with hunters, mostly because of the goddamn pets. That, and as a DPS, aside from the threat of getting shocked by Momo, she doesn't have to worry as much about Momo having difficulty playing her character.

... Would having an AnthroPC play your character for you count as botting?

With the discussion of warcraft itself:

Personally, I've retired my rogue for the most part, I kinda started to lose the urge to play DPS since it's a dime-a-dozen kind of thing, and I moved on to my paladin. Since I'm still too poor to afford Dual Spec, I tank, and aside from the Shield of the Righteous nerf I feel the patch was an overall bonus to my paladin. Ardent Defender becoming a new Cheat Death has saved my ass a few times already, although that's about it.

I need to get some of these epic gems though and resocket my gear, maybe I can actually get to 30k unbuffed for once and not have people ask if that's my tanking gear I'm wearing.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #17 on: 18 Aug 2009, 10:33 »

So back to Marigold. IMO She's a type B player, with a little type A mixed in, she wants to be strong and threatening so she created a character who's sole job it is to kill (thus the rogue or warlock). And she's type A because she chose the class 'cause she sees herself as clever. (So not a mage)
Rogues are seen as an "in your face" class. They're the definition of melee dps. Stab Stab and whatnot. The original gangsters.
Warlocks are more, "Just try and touch me." Their goal is to kill you before you can touch them. And while rogues might have more problems with hunter, so can anyone.

Unfortunately due to the Great Rogue Nerf of Patch 3.2 if she is a rogue I feel sorry for her atm.

PS- You wanna talk about hunter problems? Try being a feral druid ("Fear Animal")

Good hunters right now tear anyone apart that isn't wearing plate and can't stay on top of them constantly.  Warriors and DKs win, clothies do not.  I like the original call of "troll" as her race for the same reasons you gave.  I've been playing since day 1, and I haven't ever seen a good female rogue in game.  Healers, yes, casters yes, melee no.  She's a dualspecced ele/resto troll shaman.  She wants versatility that she doesn't think she has in the real world.  :)  Hooray for timewasting internet forums!
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #18 on: 18 Aug 2009, 11:59 »

I am so tired of people switching to paladins. All new players and alts are either DKs or Pallies these days. My guild had to pug a bunch of people for 25 man Ulduar recently because a bunch of our core members are on vacation right now and we ended up with no less than 8 paladins and no shamans. The game has become a plate parade.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #19 on: 18 Aug 2009, 12:37 »

I'd imagine paladins are so popular because you can heal almost as well as a squishy, but you can take a beating (That, and for some Horde die-hards, a pretty character at last) Also with dual spec you have the option of switching from tank to healer and back depending on who's in the raid/instance/whatever group, cutting down the wait time of Why are there no healers on ever augh. Personally, I prefer my arcane mage. Gotta love the crits.  :-D
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« Reply #20 on: 18 Aug 2009, 14:32 »

Actually, they can tank heal better than a squishy if you know what you're doing; the massive single target output paladins are capable of (and prior to patch 3.2, were capable of sustaining near indefinitely) is one of the reasons why bosses have to hit so damn hard. And really, there's actually a fair bit of tricks you can use to raid heal as well. You can't just faceroll raid heals like say, a holy priest or resto druid can, but throughput wise you really can do the job if you know what you're doing and gear correctly. Fights like Thorim hardmode will stress you out, but it is doable. Holy pallies really did need every nerf they got in the last patch, since a well played one was just a ridiculously effective healer.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #21 on: 18 Aug 2009, 15:32 »

I actually started my paladin toward the end of Burning Crusade. For a while, I was completely broke and had no money to pay for my account, but as my friend's dad was contemplating quitting, he let me play his paladin. I got a feel for paladin tanking, and I really liked it. So, I started my own for a while before going back to my rogue when WotLK came out. After a while, I got my rogue to 80, and began to get bored of it. So, I bought the PVP heirloom shoulders and shipped them over to my paladin, finished getting him to 80, and started getting him geared up.

I've still got a few shortcomings on stamina though, I'm at 26k unbuffed and no one takes me seriously.

I'm also not sure if I really want to PVE heal, I'm actually thinking about PVP healing, I think it'd be more fun.

Back on subject; I could see Marigold as a shaman. It gives her that versatility and utility that might help her mentally make up for her shortcomings outside of the game.
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« Reply #22 on: 18 Aug 2009, 22:24 »

speaking of qc characters and wow... what are the odds jeph is going to put marigold and sven in the same guild?
you can see in sven's twitter that he is horde, and if consensus seems to be that marigold is...
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« Reply #23 on: 20 Aug 2009, 17:30 »

As arguably one of the only other girl WoW players...

I stopped right there. You would have a losing argument on your hands, I'm afraid.
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« Reply #24 on: 20 Aug 2009, 17:39 »

I would laugh so hard if Sven inadvertentley tried coming onto Marigold over WoW...
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« Reply #25 on: 20 Aug 2009, 18:17 »

That would be funny as hell. Then he meets her in person and discovers that she's not blonde, and freaks out. Then they hook up. Marigold x Sven.
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« Reply #26 on: 20 Aug 2009, 18:25 »

Now I'm thinking of Do You Want To Date My Avatar

P.S. Another WoW playing female here.

P.P.S. It would be like a megaconvergence if Sven was Marigold's guildie. She's already roomie to Angus and anthropc fix-it lady to Marten without one introducing her to the other.
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« Reply #27 on: 20 Aug 2009, 20:05 »

probably a shadow priest heh

and what instance is momo playing in? when i look carefully it just looks like that place where you get into the gnome tram from stormwind
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« Reply #28 on: 20 Aug 2009, 22:13 »

You really think that's Deeprun Tram?
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #29 on: 21 Aug 2009, 03:42 »

Actually, it's probably Ulduar.

I'm guessing it's part of The Siege, I'm guessing that big grey and orange mass might be a siege engine. I think Flame Leviathan's got too much orange for it to be the corpse, but I can't recall.
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« Reply #30 on: 21 Aug 2009, 08:40 »

You really think that's Deeprun Tram?

well granted, i havn't played wow in a couple years, but the tunnel opening looks like the tunnel opening to deeprun, it looks like there are random stormwind guards around said tunnel opening, and the colour scheme looks awful familiar!
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #31 on: 24 Aug 2009, 10:38 »

 
As arguably one of the only other girl WoW players...

I stopped right there. You would have a losing argument on your hands, I'm afraid.

Sorry you didn't catch the snarkasm in that. I know there are other Girl Wow players, I'm not daft, just that the vast majority of players are men and that's a fact.
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« Reply #32 on: 24 Aug 2009, 11:06 »

ANYHOO... Marigold's twitter says her main is a Tauren. I stand surprised, I had thought she might be troll or undead.
Now we have our class options,
Warrior
Hunter
Shaman
Druid
(Death Knight) But thats not possible since it can't be her main.

I doubt she'd be complaining about hunters if she was one.

I know I'm bias towards druids so I'll try to keep my observations objective. On her twitter she said that since she was Tauren it was too late to worry about being a furry. Druid are already a "furry" class (PUN INTENDED :) so I think she would have mentioned that if she were.

So my other options are warrior and shaman. I have played neither in any great amount so I can't really go into the class mechanics.
Since the strip where she felt the need to call her guild leader I'm starting to think she raids as either a Prot War or a Resto Shammy simply because if she were dps speced it would not be that big of a deal to replace. (No offense to any DPS out thar)
In a PVP situation I don't know how warriors and shaman are against hunters, certainly classes are much more even than they used to be and any real advantages are by mistake rather than design.

I would love to guess Druid but that would be playing favorites so I'm going with a dual speced shaman
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« Reply #33 on: 24 Aug 2009, 11:24 »

That doesn't really surprise me at all.  Tauren rock; warriors were the best tanks for ages while druids and shaman are ridiculously versatile (saying that that dual spec doesn't let druids cover multiple roles in one raid is basically admitting that you need to try harder). When I play horde it's pretty much exclusively as an orc or tauren these days. I used to play undead back when Devouring Plague was UD only and WotF was the best thing since sliced bread, but that was completely due to the racials.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #34 on: 24 Aug 2009, 22:22 »

She is clearly Horde Rogue and I find it confusing that WoW players could think she dabbled on both sides of the fence. You cannot play both. Once you get into an end game guild you are so far into one side that the other is completely reprehensible to you. They are the enemy. They are what makes farming and quest grinding such a major pain in the arse (and nothing is sweeter than when they try to gank you and fail, and then you camp and kill them like 17 times). You can't go deep into the game playing both sides, period.

I really wish Youtube still had the Corpse Grinder interview where he's all 'fuck the alliance! I'm trying to farm motes of air!' but I can't find it anywhere. Anyway, FTA.
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« Reply #35 on: 24 Aug 2009, 22:27 »

That's silly, back when I played I had characters on both sides.
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« Reply #36 on: 25 Aug 2009, 01:51 »

Me too. My main was an Human Pally, but my Second was a Troll Shamen.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #37 on: 25 Aug 2009, 03:57 »

That is why you do not roll characters on PVP servers.

But yeah, her main is a Tauren, which leads me to believe she's probably a boomkin or feral druid, maybe a shaman.

And since she made contacting her guild leader seem extremely important, if she's a feral druid she's probably a tank, or she might even be resto for either class.

Or maybe she's in some hardcore guild where absence isn't tolerated.
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« Reply #38 on: 25 Aug 2009, 14:51 »

She is clearly Horde Rogue and I find it confusing that WoW players could think she dabbled on both sides of the fence. You cannot play both. Once you get into an end game guild you are so far into one side that the other is completely reprehensible to you. They are the enemy. They are what makes farming and quest grinding such a major pain in the arse (and nothing is sweeter than when they try to gank you and fail, and then you camp and kill them like 17 times). You can't go deep into the game playing both sides, period

This makes you sound deranged, and I'm a guy who primarily played on PvP servers until recently. Hell, back in the day I used to play a horde warlock when I was bored of my alliance rogue. I did this on the same pvp server, by the way, since me and some horde dude decided to share passwords since we both had top end gear and didn't want to level alts. I got to know him over the realm forums and we used to bullshit regularly over vent. The difference between horde and alliance players is an artificial construct created by Blizzard. It means exactly as much as you let it.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #39 on: 25 Aug 2009, 16:16 »

used to play on a pve server, had toons of both factions on the same server with the same account.  messed with guildmates all the time
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #40 on: 01 Sep 2009, 22:16 »

This makes you sound deranged, and I'm a guy who primarily played on PvP servers until recently. Hell, back in the day I used to play a horde warlock when I was bored of my alliance rogue. I did this on the same pvp server, by the way, since me and some horde dude decided to share passwords since we both had top end gear and didn't want to level alts. I got to know him over the realm forums and we used to bullshit regularly over vent. The difference between horde and alliance players is an artificial construct created by Blizzard. It means exactly as much as you let it.

Hmm, to play high end in an end game guild where you are pushing new ground and trying to do it first, you are playing 40+ hours a week. Pretty much bare minimum. Any extra time you are forced to spend farming because a group of tards from the other side have decided to camp you is extremely frustrating because no matter how much of a loser you are you are very aware that farming is not how you want to spend your time. For every run you make you need a certain amount of gold to cover repairs/buffs/buffs/buffs and it takes time to accumulate no matter how efficient you are (unless you are buying gold with $$ in order to save time).
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #41 on: 03 Sep 2009, 00:36 »

I really doubt she's a rogue. I've played on a PvP server ever since I started and I never had trouble on my rogue with hunters. Or never heard anyone complain about hunters as a rogue. I'm looking more at a clothy because they seem to be the only kind of classes that have trouble with rogues. I also see her as a dps class. This puts me at a Warlock or Mage. She really doesn't seem to be a 'lock kinda person... So I'm really going with a mage.

As far as faction; I'm leaning towards Alliance... even though they're pretty much the same except hate each other. ;p I really can't see her playing an Orc, Troll, Undead, or a Tauren... Just seems kinda far out for her personality. Though there is a chance she might be a Blood Elf... *shudders*
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #42 on: 03 Sep 2009, 06:40 »

You do realize that in the latest comic she was wearing a Horde shirt? It was also mentioned on twitter that she played Tauren.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #43 on: 03 Sep 2009, 06:45 »

You do realize that in the latest comic she was wearing a Horde shirt? It was also mentioned on twitter that she played Tauren.
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #44 on: 03 Sep 2009, 08:07 »

'Nother girl gamer here! Just to add to the show of hands as it were :)

Regarding "you can't play both sides" : if anyone were to tell me I needed to play 40+ hours a week of WoW, I would demand that they show me the friggin' money first. That's a full time JOB, mate, not a game O.O
But I never claimed to be any kind of "hard core" player. Many of the folks I play with have jobs, families...y'know, lives. And WoW for me, and for them, is just a really fun game to play, we like to keep it fun, and if that means we can't "wtfpwn" some boss or other on "extra hard mode" then fine. I know not everyone agrees with that casual attitude, but I can't imagine that the "hard core 40-hours-a-week" players are an overwhelming majority, either.

I've been in WoW since...about six months after it began, I think. Years now. I've played almost exclusively Alliance, mainly because I made friends there. I have a Horde character - she's a hunter *ducks rain of rotten veggies*
However the only friends I made, Horde side, were folks I already knew from their Alliance toons, who'd made Horde alts and whatnot. I recall getting ragged a LOT for declining to duel or PvP; but I get the same from Alliance players who are hot to trot for that aspect of the game. I dislike PvP a great deal, it's why I play on a PvE server. Those who want to PvP are welcome to it :)

I agree with the folks who are thinking Marigold has characters across a wide range of races and classes. I think she'd play both factions, and do well at it. I also agree that she's likely to be a dps class rather than a healer or tank.

Yes, having your AnthroPC play your character should count as botting. Although how they would really know you were doing it, unless you hooked the Anthro directly into your system...
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #45 on: 03 Sep 2009, 08:20 »

... but I can't imagine that the "hard core 40-hours-a-week" players are an overwhelming majority, either.

They aren't even close. Blizz admitted that they introduced more 5-man and 10-man content and heroic mode with Burning Crusade because, up 'til that point, less than 5% of subscribers had even stepped inside raid content (Onyxia and Molten Core). And, despite the hardcore players bitching on the forums that Wrath content was too easy, Blizz is definitely aiming at keeping their "casual" players hooked because that's where the money is and their subscription numbers prove it. "Vanilla" WoW topped out at 4.5 million subscribers, post-Wrath WoW (with more accessible content, "welfare epics", and "easy mode") is up around the 12 million mark ...
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #46 on: 03 Sep 2009, 16:20 »

Love the Horde Rules Tshirt she wore  :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #47 on: 04 Sep 2009, 05:50 »

'Nother girl gamer here! Just to add to the show of hands as it were :)

Regarding "you can't play both sides" : if anyone were to tell me I needed to play 40+ hours a week of WoW, I would demand that they show me the friggin' money first. That's a full time JOB, mate, not a game O.O

I think that Marigold would be hardcore. She wouldn't be that upset about dropping out of a raid otherwise, and if she's raiding every night then she's hardcore - no ordinary guild needs to do that. Most guilds afaik run 2-3 times a week and attendance is not mandatory. That is why they were stuck farming UBRS instead of Naxx.

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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #48 on: 04 Sep 2009, 05:51 »

Wait. This whole thread is ridiculous. WTF are we all talking about?
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Re: Marigold and Warcraft
« Reply #49 on: 04 Sep 2009, 09:48 »

I believe the title pretty much sums up the contents of this thread.
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