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schimmy:
22 October 2009: jhocking discovers marijuana.
Bastardous Bassist:
--- Quote from: calenlass on 21 Oct 2009, 23:05 ---I am passionate about learning, but the university system, at least in the States, is more of a suffocation of education than the promotion of it
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I always found that learning was most stressed in both of my degree departments. In both of them, what you actually learn does matter. In physics, you either teach physics in high school, or go on to graduate school (which is the opposite of the financial burden where you don't learn anything). In music, you either teach music, go on to graduate school or play music. For all of those options, you actually have to understand what's being taught. And in both of those degrees, you have to want to do them, because they're too hard for people to just coast through by going through the motions. So, I guess it's really what department you find yourself in combined with what university you find yourself in.
SonofZ3:
Ok, I haven't been in this thread for a little while but I'd like to respond, in general, to the last two dozen or so posts. In my original post I wasn't trying to say that a monetary payoff should be the ONLY reason for being in school. Personal growth and learning for the sake of learning are wonderful, but I don't fault people for putting money right up there. This is why my minors were literature and philosophy, and not a major. This is why I used up all my electives on Russian culture and film courses, because I have a passion for them, but I fully understood that I NEEDED my degree to pay off when I graduated. I went to a State School, worked through college, and I'm still going to be in debt for the next 8-10 years paying off my education. Now that I've graduated, and shell out 1300 a month in bills before food or gas (I'm saving on rent by living at home), I'm glad I didn't major in philosophy or literature. In fact, I wish I would've went to school for nursing, or an associates in criminal justice instead. Long debates with my philosophy professors, or nights at the bar with my Russian Lit prof talking about War and Peace are some excellent memories, but are they worth my debt? No.
Christophe:
Jesus fucking shitting dicks I am about to have a conniption fit about the shitting group leader for my fucking entrepreneurship fuck-damn project. All being all "no this is the way to do it" while everyone else in the group is all "hey how about you let us have your say as to why you might be wrong" and him being all "no but I'm the one who came up with the project" and everyone else being all "but it's a group project now and you have to let us have our say" and fucking hell if you didn't want people to come up with other things for your fucking pet project then you shouldn't have shared it with the group you fuck. I did not cross the shitting 48 contiguous states and the bitch dicks Atlantic Ocean to get into a wang-biting argument about fuck all. All for a piss-dip five minute presentation that frankly could have been dusted off in a Goddamn hour.
TL;DR: AHHHH C'MON, FUCK A GROUP PROJECT
LTK:
Holy shit you guys, experimental design for the life sciences is such a pain in the ass. Pseudoreplication, confounding factors, background variation, correlational vs. manipulative studies, proper randomization, within-subject vs. between-subject designs, observer drift, and ethics that mess your shit up... This science will make you its bitch. So damn many things to take into account, and if that wasn't bad enough, the test questions are really mean too. Urghh.
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