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[kraemandrummer]

To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions, just remember that God can use the unrighteous as well as the righteous to His ends (as He did with Nebuchadnezzar in Jeremiah 27). You are giving Christ's church meaning by persecuting it.

You would not be opposing God's will were it not for God's will. Think about that. Perhaps you, like Paul, will come around and see the Light.

That is one thing I never understood about Christianity.
God wanted us to mess up and get out of Eden? He planned that? Well then he's a right old dick. Also this means the whole battle between heaven and hell is a forgone conclusion and Satan's just a stubborn mule.
To be honest he doesn't seem like the kinda guy to plan ahead. He floods the earth one day, and then after 40 days of thinking about it, he was like "Oops, my bad. I promise not to do it again."

And to be honest, if God created the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, massive as it is, it seems to me that he would care about us as much as we care for the smallest mote of dust. He has bigger fish to fry.

and your argument about us opposing God's will can only be sound if we already accept that God exists.  Since we don't, its validity is reduced to nothing, at least for us non-Christians.


I am not denying the existence of God. I'm admitting a baffled uncertainty on the matter and that the human race is probably wrong in almost every idea we have about him, if he does exist.



About the comic though. Henry must feel awful at the moment. Getting a "You're SERIOUS?" response to a marriage proposal is not what I would call a pleasant experience.

[tinkerbell]

About the comic though. Henry must feel awful at the moment. Getting a "You're SERIOUS?" response to a marriage proposal is not what I would call a pleasant experience.

I suppose at first it might be a little disheartening. It could be that Maurice never expected him to propose, and now that he has, it is a shockingly happy experience?
Just trying out a bit of optimism there

[SigPig]

Nice to see that this has gone back to the comic and not philisophical discussion.  I think Maurice was in shock that he is being asked for real and not in jest.

What is this, the Spanish Inquisition?
Didn't expect that.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Sorry couldn't resist the Monty Python reference on that one. 

[akronnick]

Our Chief weapon is surprise!
Surprise and fear, fear and surprise!
Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency...

[Aurjay]

K im lost(not hard to do) about what Dora meant when she said to Marten "I see where you get it from" Marten replies with "gets what from" and i happen to be as lost as he is. Any help?

[Delirium]

K im lost(not hard to do) about what Dora meant when she said to Marten "I see where you get it from" Marten replies with "gets what from" and i happen to be as lost as he is. Any help?

Read the title.

[Ravenswing]

Huh.  I proposed to my first wife outside her therapist's office.

That should have been a tipoff to me.

Ha ha ha ha ha!
You sir, are a catch. You can propose to me outside my therapist's office any time.

Heh, well, that's quite flattering; thank you!  And if we didn't live on separate continents or if my current wife wouldn't have her own modest objections, who knows ...

Just want to say, everybody has a choice, and these include sexual preferences, there are a few stories around about gay men who turn back to heterosexuality after awhile. Frankly i've never been a believer in the "all gay men are born this way" argument, as there have been more than a few men who turned gay after a long time as Heterosexuals.

Not so much.  What we do have in our culture is this amazingly strong paradigm to label people: you're either Straight or Gay or Bi, and we see this as a 100%-0%-50% split.  To the degree we can't pigeonhole people - or pigeonhole ourselves - we get very uncomfortable.  Those folks never "turned gay" any more than they were ever 100% hetero; no one just wakes up one morning, says to him or herself, "Gosh!  I'm queer now, to heck with the opposite sex!" and kicks the neighboring snorer out of bed with revulsion.

As to that, one topic my wife and I've been talking about lately is on gender identity, specifically concerning transgendering.  My increasing belief is that it's all needless ... that people associate certain behaviors - wearing dresses or makeup, sleeping with women, playing football, particular mannerisms - so strongly with one sex or the other, it's thought easier to undergo lengthy, expensive, painful and imprecise hormonal therapies and plastic surgeries than to keep one's body as it is and just openly adopt the desired mannerisms and personality traits.

Wouldn't it be terrific if it were all okay?  For guys to wear dresses, say, rather than have their bodies changed so they could get away with practicing the "feminine" traits they wished without shame or jeering?

[maddness]

I don't think you are taking in to account the people that genuinely feel like aliens inside their own bodies. Those who genuinely feel they should have been born of the opposite sex and will not be happy until they are in the "right" body.

[raoullefere]

Our Chief weapon is surprise!
Surprise and fear, fear and surprise!
Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency...

some iterations later
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn!

Maurice doesn't look happy; he looks caught. Of course, I've a natural suspicion about the capacity of anyone, male or female, who uses the expression "darling" to be serious.

Meanwhile, the art gets better and better.

[Dliessmgg]

To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions, just remember that God can use the unrighteous as well as the righteous to His ends (as He did with Nebuchadnezzar in Jeremiah 27). You are giving Christ's church meaning by persecuting it.

You would not be opposing God's will were it not for God's will. Think about that. Perhaps you, like Paul, will come around and see the Light.

Those who criticize your opinion (God is technically without opinion, because opinion is based on a lack of knowledge, it doesn't matter if we don't know it yet or we can't know it) don't believe that there is a will of god. Maybe they believe that god created the universe and didn't care for it afterwards, maybe they believe god can't meddle with things inside the universe, maybe they don't believe in god. Always keep in mind: not only the Christian god is god, every god is god. There are almost no differences there, and these differences are not the ones that distinct the religions.

[kraemandrummer]

dddaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Shale]

That's one hell of an understatement, Dora.

[akronnick]

Yay Maurice and Henry!
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Homobigot heads asploding in 3...2...

[Is it cold in here?]

Barfing as the key to understanding their circle of friends.

[Blackjoker]

Heh, everyone together would be cool, though if they meet Jimbo at the bar it could get stranger...and also awesome.

[BeoPuppy]

To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions, just remember that God can use the unrighteous as well as the righteous to His ends [...]

No he can't. Because he doesn't exist. That sort of puts a crimp on his weekend plans, I suspect, but there you go. Honestly, the idea of persecuting people on the basis of a 2000 year old book of badly written fiction is shameful.

Anyway.

Love the art of late. Especially the faces have so much more expression and life in them. The progress our gracious host is making in his artwork is quite staggering. I think he could take a moment and feel very proud of his achievements thus far.  

[Ravenswing]

To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions, just remember that God can use the unrighteous as well as the righteous to His ends (as He did with Nebuchadnezzar in Jeremiah 27). You are giving Christ's church meaning by persecuting it.

You would not be opposing God's will were it not for God's will. Think about that. Perhaps you, like Paul, will come around and see the Light.

That is one thing I never understood about Christianity.
God wanted us to mess up and get out of Eden? He planned that? Well then he's a right old dick. Also this means the whole battle between heaven and hell is a forgone conclusion and Satan's just a stubborn mule.
To be honest he doesn't seem like the kinda guy to plan ahead. He floods the earth one day, and then after 40 days of thinking about it, he was like "Oops, my bad. I promise not to do it again."

Yeah ... as Harlan Ellison said, that's the "God Is A Malign Thug" theory.

Funny thing is, just like the GOP wingnuts out there think that the Second Amendment is the only part of the Bill of Rights the Founding Fathers actually meant, the Christian moonbats out there seem to feel that the bit about gays was the only part of Leviticus God actually meant.  Leviticus says that God condones me owning slaves.  Leviticus says eating oysters or shrimp is an abomination.  Leviticus says that shaving the beard is an abomination before the Lord.  Leviticus says that wearing cotton-poly threads are against the law of God.  So if the fundys can decide for themselves which parts of the Bible they can safely ignore, why can't I?

As far as barhopping goes, well, Henry can be the older, wiser head ... and maybe suggest that drinking until you're throwing up just might not be a terrific idea?

[Killbot]

How many times does it have to be said? homosexuals don't WANT to get married, they don't want that much commitment and responsibility (after all, variety is the spice of life. can't count how many times gay "friends" told me THAT line). They just want to redefine marriage as part of the greater plan to degrade, defile, and eventually destroy our Christian nation (or what's left of it). Mark my words, it will come to pass that a rainbow flag will fly over the White House, as surely as a crescent and star will fly over China.

[D]

It has to be said zero times because that's absolutely moronic. Homosexuals are perfectly normal human beings who, for some reason, happened to be born with an attraction to their own gender. Their motivations for wanting to get married are the same as any straight couple and they don't have any hostilities towards heterosexuals, aside from perhaps the misinformed such as yourself, or desire to ruin the United States. You represent so much of what has always been wrong with mankind.

I'm glad Jeph is doing this arch.

[Delirium]

it's arc, not arch.

[Shadic]

How many times does it have to be said? homosexuals don't WANT to get married, they don't want that much commitment and responsibility (after all, variety is the spice of life. can't count how many times gay "friends" told me THAT line). They just want to redefine marriage as part of the greater plan to degrade, defile, and eventually destroy our Christian nation (or what's left of it). Mark my words, it will come to pass that a rainbow flag will fly over the White House, as surely as a crescent and star will fly over China.

Okay, now it's just guaranteed that you're trolling. You turned up the paranoid crazy to 11.

[akronnick]

Killbot, the only thing you know less about than the "will of God" is what homosexuals really want, so get your head out of  Pat Robertson's ass and shut up already.

Do you no what will happen to this country when DOMA gets busted and all fifty states have to recognize gay marriage? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!

Do you know what effect two men or two women getting married has on everyone else? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!

Okay, now it's just guaranteed that you're trolling. You turned up the paranoid crazy to 11.

It's not even original Paranoia, he's just parroting the Pat Robertson's hate-spew.

[BeoPuppy]

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

[Kugai]

Dawwwwww

*Cue romantic music and montage*  

[Kugai]

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

Don't bother

Killbot ain't worth it



Dancing in front of the blind is an effort that goes unseen

[Jace]

Killbot, up high man!
o/

We gotta keep the christian nation strong. Gotta get rid of all those undesirables in our great country. First we should get rid of barack HUSSEIN obama before he indoctrinates our children into being socialists. After that it would be a logical step to remove all of the blacks, hispanics, asians and terrorists from the country. We can send them to Canada. Step three should clearly be appointing Sarah Palin as defense secretary, but not president, we don't really want to let the women have too much. In fact, we might need to make their votes count for whatever their husband's vote is. At that point, we should have a fairly strong, white nation, but we need to keep it christian, basically, we'll have only the jews in banking stay. The Catholics can stay too, but they can't attend our colleges, and they'll all have to go to separate schools. To top it off, anyone of the Muslim faith will be executed on sight by our Faith Patrols. We can reclaim the Christian Nation, but we'll need God's help.

[Kugai]

Hey Jace,

I think Adam Sutler hacked your account.

[Jace]

No, brother, just God. God hacked my account and showed me the light of the holy bible.

[Dliessmgg]

[paranoid ravings]

Daaaaaawwwwwwwwwww.

[Manix]

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

Sadly, we are, in the end, human beings, with all human beings silly foibles and limitations. Many Christians seem to forget certain aspects of Christ's teaching, just as many open minded Liberals (such as can be found on this forum, please don't take that as an insult, but it's true) have no respect for the beliefs of those on the opposing political side, despite there self image being more tolerant and open mind and caring.

I myself fell that Christ would actually be rather upset at the things that have been done in his name in the years since his death. I myself feel that God and Christ want us to come to them by choice, not by force, which is why evil and the devil still exist. God is, in many ways liek a very strict fifties father. H eloves us, but like any parent, he occassionally has to let his stupid children to stupid things for them to learn. That's my opinion at least. Sadly, some of his children don't get the obvious message, or even want to..

[Dliessmgg]

I don't really like to invoke a Godwin, but I think most Liberals respect only other believes that are open minded because they think they'd have to accept Nazi propaganda too.

[Border Reiver]

Can we move the debate on homosexual marriage to the Discuss forum?  It could use a new topic.

And among the things that I don't need to do:  celebrating anything with my dad until his intended and/or my friends vomit. 

[kraemandrummer]

How many times does it have to be said? homosexuals don't WANT to get married, they don't want that much commitment and responsibility (after all, variety is the spice of life. can't count how many times gay "friends" told me THAT line). They just want to redefine marriage as part of the greater plan to degrade, defile, and eventually destroy our Christian nation (or what's left of it). Mark my words, it will come to pass that a rainbow flag will fly over the White House, as surely as a crescent and star will fly over China.

you make me want to scream

[Manix]

I don't really like to invoke a Godwin, but I think most Liberals respect only other believes that are open minded because they think they'd have to accept Nazi propaganda too.

Ah, but isn't that prejudice? Believe me, as a life long conservative republican, we are not nazi's.

As such, there is no way to be truly open-minded, but the left has long maintained that they are the open-minded peaceful, loving ones (which is total bullshit, as anyone whose read up on what the 60's, the big defining era for modern leftism, was actually like). Which is why I decided to go right, with the right, you always know were you stand.

[tinkerbell]

And among the things that I don't need to do:  celebrating anything with my dad until his intended and/or my friends vomit. 

Have to agree with you there. As far as my dad knows I have never even been tipsy, and that is the way I want it to stay.

On a different note, I am glad that my assumption that Maurice was just a bit taken aback and would say yes was right! That is such a sweet moment for them!

[Killbot]

Killbot, the only thing you know less about than the "will of God" is what homosexuals really want, so get your head out of  Pat Robertson's ass and shut up already.

Do you no what will happen to this country when DOMA gets busted and all fifty states have to recognize gay marriage? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!

Do you know what effect two men or two women getting married has on everyone else? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!

Okay, now it's just guaranteed that you're trolling. You turned up the paranoid crazy to 11.

It's not even original Paranoia, he's just parroting the Pat Robertson's hate-spew.

See, this is what I;m talking about. You are so thoroughly brainwashed that you accuse anyone who expresses an opinion you don't like of trolling or copying some random wacko. I assure you I am serious.

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

Sadly, we are, in the end, human beings, with all human beings silly foibles and limitations. Many Christians seem to forget certain aspects of Christ's teaching, just as many open minded Liberals (such as can be found on this forum, please don't take that as an insult, but it's true) have no respect for the beliefs of those on the opposing political side, despite there self image being more tolerant and open mind and caring.

I myself fell that Christ would actually be rather upset at the things that have been done in his name in the years since his death. I myself feel that God and Christ want us to come to them by choice, not by force, which is why evil and the devil still exist. God is, in many ways liek a very strict fifties father. H eloves us, but like any parent, he occassionally has to let his stupid children to stupid things for them to learn. That's my opinion at least. Sadly, some of his children don't get the obvious message, or even want to..

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

If you were christians you wouldn't be cutting parts out of the bible that offended you. Christians accept ALL the scripture as God-breathed.

Killbot, up high man!
o/

We gotta keep the christian nation strong. Gotta get rid of all those undesirables in our great country. First we should get rid of barack HUSSEIN obama before he indoctrinates our children into being socialists. After that it would be a logical step to remove all of the blacks, hispanics, asians and terrorists from the country. We can send them to Canada. Step three should clearly be appointing Sarah Palin as defense secretary, but not president, we don't really want to let the women have too much. In fact, we might need to make their votes count for whatever their husband's vote is. At that point, we should have a fairly strong, white nation, but we need to keep it christian, basically, we'll have only the jews in banking stay. The Catholics can stay too, but they can't attend our colleges, and they'll all have to go to separate schools. To top it off, anyone of the Muslim faith will be executed on sight by our Faith Patrols. We can reclaim the Christian Nation, but we'll need God's help.

Galatians 3:28. Your attempt to satirize me fails. Please try again.

[Elgard]

And no one who has seen Colbert doesn't know he's a satirist.  That's a left-wing fantasy.

One would think that eh?
Sadly, stupidity knows no bounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VacVwpF2E

If you don't want to watch the whole video you can skip ahead to about 3:20...the gist of the study is that yes everyone realizes that he's going for laughs, but conservatives tend to delude themsleves into thinking that secretly he actually means what he says...

[Light Engine]

Hey Jace,

I think Adam Sutler hacked your account.

Adam Susan, thank you very much. 

[tinkerbell]

It is funny how we have a troll who will never concede that they are being trollish. Makes me think of this overcompensating from the other day: http://www.overcompensating.com/posts/20091021.html

There will probably always be trolls, but we should not waste our time and energy fighting with them. Perhaps if we leave them alone they will squabble amongst themselves, and thus never set out to accomplish what they wanted in the first place. I mean, if they are going to step in the way of other people's happiness just because it conflicts with what they think then that is something to pity - they clearly cannot appreciate that it is so rare to find someone who you really connect with and deeply love regardless of gender.

[Elgard]

If you were christians you wouldn't be cutting parts out of the bible that offended you. Christians accept ALL the scripture as God-breathed.

I don't know why I bother, but what the eff. Let's feed the troll!

Numbers 31.15-18
And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

Isaiah 13. 13-19
Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger. And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land. Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it. Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children. And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

Oh and my personal favourite of course:
"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;" (Deuteronomy 22:22)

"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 22:24)

Of course this is but a tiny tiny tiny sample of the....shall we say 'questionable' verses that can be found in various parts of the bible.

So every word is god-breathed huh? Nice. That's just great.

[Jeff7]

It is funny how we have a troll who will never concede that they are being trollish. Makes me think of this overcompensating from the other day: http://www.overcompensating.com/posts/20091021.html

My bad, I'll turn this off.

I forgot to swap the FapCat silhouette back in there.

[kraemandrummer]

Killbot, the only thing you know less about than the "will of God" is what homosexuals really want, so get your head out of  Pat Robertson's ass and shut up already.

Do you no what will happen to this country when DOMA gets busted and all fifty states have to recognize gay marriage? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!

Do you know what effect two men or two women getting married has on everyone else? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!

Okay, now it's just guaranteed that you're trolling. You turned up the paranoid crazy to 11.

It's not even original Paranoia, he's just parroting the Pat Robertson's hate-spew.

See, this is what I;m talking about. You are so thoroughly brainwashed that you accuse anyone who expresses an opinion you don't like of trolling or copying some random wacko. I assure you I am serious.

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

Sadly, we are, in the end, human beings, with all human beings silly foibles and limitations. Many Christians seem to forget certain aspects of Christ's teaching, just as many open minded Liberals (such as can be found on this forum, please don't take that as an insult, but it's true) have no respect for the beliefs of those on the opposing political side, despite there self image being more tolerant and open mind and caring.

I myself fell that Christ would actually be rather upset at the things that have been done in his name in the years since his death. I myself feel that God and Christ want us to come to them by choice, not by force, which is why evil and the devil still exist. God is, in many ways liek a very strict fifties father. H eloves us, but like any parent, he occassionally has to let his stupid children to stupid things for them to learn. That's my opinion at least. Sadly, some of his children don't get the obvious message, or even want to..

[paranoid ravings]

... you really are quite a heinous individual.

Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?

If you were christians you wouldn't be cutting parts out of the bible that offended you. Christians accept ALL the scripture as God-breathed.

Killbot, up high man!
o/

We gotta keep the christian nation strong. Gotta get rid of all those undesirables in our great country. First we should get rid of barack HUSSEIN obama before he indoctrinates our children into being socialists. After that it would be a logical step to remove all of the blacks, hispanics, asians and terrorists from the country. We can send them to Canada. Step three should clearly be appointing Sarah Palin as defense secretary, but not president, we don't really want to let the women have too much. In fact, we might need to make their votes count for whatever their husband's vote is. At that point, we should have a fairly strong, white nation, but we need to keep it christian, basically, we'll have only the jews in banking stay. The Catholics can stay too, but they can't attend our colleges, and they'll all have to go to separate schools. To top it off, anyone of the Muslim faith will be executed on sight by our Faith Patrols. We can reclaim the Christian Nation, but we'll need God's help.

Galatians 3:28. Your attempt to satirize me fails. Please try again.

So that means you want to stone your teenager for misbehaving? you believe in slavery? Having sex before getting married is punishable by death? These are all in the bible.

[tinkerbell]

It is funny how we have a troll who will never concede that they are being trollish. Makes me think of this overcompensating from the other day: http://www.overcompensating.com/posts/20091021.html

My bad, I'll turn this off.

I forgot to swap the FapCat silhouette back in there.

Ha ha ha ha! Oh, you!

[Switchblade]

If you were christians you wouldn't be cutting parts out of the bible that offended you. Christians accept ALL the scripture as God-breathed.

Good luck with that.

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

I did some research, and it seems that the above are indeed both divine commands.

II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

I would just like to point out that the above is an incident of the Bible contradicting itself in the very next smegging sentence.

I'm going to stop here. Either way - devout or troll (with both being a euphemism for "idiot" in my book) - this is more an exercise in me making my opinion known to others, rather than a direct rebuttal to Killbot. directly replying to him in either capacity's a waste of time.

[Mr_Rose]

See, this is what I;m talking about. You are so thoroughly brainwashed that you accuse anyone who expresses an opinion you don't like of trolling or copying some random wacko. I assure you I am serious.

Oh no, I no longer believe you to be a troll, you have truly convinced me that it was the first option; severe trauma. I can only speculate as to what would cause such a perversion of rational thought in you but it must have been bad. Unfortunately, since this is the internet, I can only offer my sincere condolences for your loss and hope you get better soon.

[Random832]

To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions,

Don't presume to speak for God. There are passages in the bible that have been mistranslated and misinterpreted so many times, it's not clear at all the current interpretation matches the original meaning.

[pwhodges]

Even before we get to translation and interpretation, it's far from clear that that Masoretes got all the vowels right when they added them to the consonantal text of the Old Testament; after all, they were doing it a millennium or more down the line, including a period during which Hebrew was no longer used in common speech at all.  Some passages would make a lot more sense with different vowels.

[el_loco_avs]

To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions,

Don't presume to speak for God. There are passages in the bible that have been mistranslated and misinterpreted so many times, it's not clear at all the current interpretation matches the original meaning.

I think that was the point where people's Obvious Troll is Obvious reflex should kick in.

[BigSol81]

Eeeew, homos!

j/k. It's cool that Marten is so at ease with his father's sexuality and supports him. I have some friends that would be totally weirded out in the same situation (though not hateful, I don't make friends with those kinds of people).

As for the religion arguments....give it a rest. You don't know there's a God. Nobody does. Nobody "knows" that there isn't one, either. Accept that your beliefs are all based solely on a book that can only cite itself as a reference and is no more or less "logical" or "rational" than scientology, or the Roman/Greek pantheon, or any other religion.

"The Bible is the word of God!"
"Oh? How do you know?"
"Duh! Because it says so in the Bible!"

Circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because........

[jonarus_drakus]

I may not be as 'modern' as i though. I suport gay rights in theory, but the image of two (admitadly entirely fictional) dudes kissing each other still made me feel a little ill. I wish it were easier to reconcile my political and personal beliefs.

As for this 'Killbot' character, i have a very simple message: PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHY IM AN ATHIEST