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Kick Ass (the movie)
J:
i like ebert, though i frequently find myself disagreeing with his reviews, and occasionally find myself wondering if we had even been watching the same movie
scarred:
Ebert and I generally agree, unless he's publishing essays about how videogames aren't art.
Or giving "Knowing" 4 stars.
knives:
While I think his argument is absolutely stupid, I do agree with him that video games aren't, and will never be art. For various semantics reasons I think Video games are more related to football, rugby, lacrosse, ect. than they are to literature, sculpting, or theater. The users can have artistry and something of the power of art can come from it, but by itself it is nothing. There is an art to video games, but that doesn't make them art. Though there are some exceptions to every rule; Metal Gear Solid 2 is far better enjoyed as a work of art than as sport.
scarred:
Let's not do this here.
Alex C:
His video games aren't art stance is weird and kinda myopic. I just want him to meet us halfway and acknowledge that a video game can be art or at least contain art even if most of them aren't interested in making the attempt. I mean, yes, art is often in part a sort of communication between the artist and the audience and in video games you do cede a lot of control to the audience. But there is still form and structure there and he willfully ignores the point that linearity does exist in games. Yes, the player can derail a game by refusing to take it seriously or acting impulsively, but the same can be said of a stubborn or bored audience watching a movie.
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