Topic: Goth or Not Goth? Ask Me. (Read 57181 times)

Jace · « **Reply #50 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 11:49 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2009, 09:22

Quote from: Ballard on 20 Nov 2009, 08:52

Orcs are more of a power metal thing. Sometimes black metal. But always

But Khar. That is GOTHmog. Goth is in his name.

Oh god, I immediately knew the name of an orc general from LotR, fuck I am such a nerrrrd.

celticgeek · « **Reply #51 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 11:50 »

Goth?

Emaline · « **Reply #52 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 14:07 »

Neil Gaiman and Naked Amanda Palmer did a bath tub interview with some lady awhile back. As in, he and Naked AFP sat in a bath together while being interviewed.

TMI: me and afp are on the same cycle/I am a huge nerdy fan and follow them both on twitter and know too much about them.

Afp is naked a lot, btws.

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #53 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 14:57 »

This is a bit late, but how about this one?

pilsner · « **Reply #54 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 15:28 »

Quote from: Emaline on 20 Nov 2009, 14:07

Neil Gaiman and Naked Amanda Palmer did a bath tub interview with some lady awhile back. As in, he and Naked AFP sat in a bath together while being interviewed.

TMI: me and afp are on the same cycle/I am a huge nerdy fan and follow them both on twitter and know too much about them.

Afp is naked a lot, btws.

You're not kidding (link is very nsfw). Where you two always in synch, or did it happen spontaneously after you listened to Astronaut for a full day straight?

Spluff · « **Reply #55 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 17:50 »

David_Dovey · « **Reply #56 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 18:13 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2009, 10:46

no one in their might minds would try and argue that Robert Smith isn't goth*

*Except Robert Smith, for obvious reasons.

Shit man I came in here specifically to ask if Robert Smith was goth. I remember when I was 13 a magazine I read had an ongoing back-and-forth on the letters page arguing whether he and the Cure were Goth or not.

Come to think of it it's really only occurred to me now that all of the people who would've written those letters would be totally

KharBevNor · « **Reply #57 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 21:02 »

Quote from: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Nov 2009, 14:57

This is a bit late, but how about this one?

Fur coat, all black contacts...

Inlander · « **Reply #58 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 21:21 »

Spluff · « **Reply #59 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 21:23 »

I was going to post that, but I figured it was probably too australia-specific.

Inlander · « **Reply #60 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 21:26 »

Yeah but there are plenty of Australians on this forum who can appreciate a cheap gag.

Inlander · « **Reply #61 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 21:27 »

Plus look how black those eyebrows are.

Ballard · « **Reply #62 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 21:59 »

The image URL is vague. Enlighten all us 'Murricans?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #63 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 22:00 »

Yeah I can't answer this without knowing if he drank blood or whatever.

Vendetagainst · « **Reply #64 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 22:37 »

Inlander · « **Reply #65 on:** 20 Nov 2009, 23:31 »

Quote from: Ballard on 20 Nov 2009, 21:59

The image URL is vague. Enlighten all us 'Murricans?

Quote from: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2009, 22:00

Yeah I can't answer this without knowing if he drank blood or whatever.

'Scuse my punning.

Thomas Edison · « **Reply #66 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 01:56 »

the_pied_piper · « **Reply #67 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 03:12 »

Dliessmgg · « **Reply #68 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 05:44 »

Quote from: the_pied_piper on 21 Nov 2009, 03:12

Goethe

Haha, no.

Rather this one:

michaelicious · « **Reply #69 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 08:26 »

Quote from: Inlander on 20 Nov 2009, 21:27

Plus look how black those eyebrows are.

I have black eyebrows! Hopefully they will be that badass when my hair turns white.

pwhodges · « **Reply #70 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 09:26 »

Like this?

michaelicious · « **Reply #71 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 10:39 »

If life is kind to me, yes.

J-cob9000 · « **Reply #72 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 20:31 »

and/or

??

MrBlu · « **Reply #73 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 22:49 »

Nothing in Australia is safe. I vote Goth.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #74 on:** 21 Nov 2009, 23:57 »

Quote from: J-cob9000 on 21 Nov 2009, 20:31

Two words:

Zingoleb · « **Reply #75 on:** 22 Nov 2009, 04:28 »

Yayniall · « **Reply #76 on:** 22 Nov 2009, 08:17 »

Lunchbox · « **Reply #77 on:** 22 Nov 2009, 20:54 »

Skibas_clavicle · « **Reply #78 on:** 03 Dec 2009, 15:47 »

Australia: NOT Goth.

But yah, I love this thread. I also love Khar, but that's a different story altogether!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #79 on:** 03 Dec 2009, 16:22 »

For some reason the enormous picture of Nick Cave has dissapeared from my post about australia.

I will get back on this in due time.

Ã¶de · « **Reply #80 on:** 03 Dec 2009, 18:03 »

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #81 on:** 03 Dec 2009, 18:56 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 03 Dec 2009, 16:22

For some reason the enormous picture of Nick Cave has dissapeared from my post about australia.

Aw I kind of like it better when I thought it was really "Two words: Goth"

Ballard · « **Reply #82 on:** 04 Dec 2009, 14:24 »

Quote from: Ã¶de on 03 Dec 2009, 18:03

Strawberry Switchblade

This is like asking if heroin is a drug or just trying too hard to be one.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #83 on:** 04 Dec 2009, 16:30 »

The Melville/Poe thing is interesting. Now of course, obviously both gentlemen are pre-goth, since neither of them made it to the 1970's what with one thing or another. We must consider them on the influence. On this criteria, I'm afraid, despite the penchant for dark romanticism exhibited by both, only one can pass.

Edgar Allen Poe is more

than a casket full of bats. He is the only absolute requirement in the goth literary canon; everything else can be taken or left, but even cybergoths can probably quote Alone or The Raven[/url]. Asking a goth their favourite lyrical work by Poe is a good method of judging their level. Low level goth will probably go for The Raven or Lenore. Goths who have mastered the 35 Chambers of Christian Death Bootlegs will probably make one of three choices: Alone, The Conqueror Worm or Dreamland. Dreamland in particular indicates a very potent goth, or perhaps a big fan of Sopor Aeternus & The Ensemble of Shadows*. Alone is becoming a bit less exclusive these days because of the internet and many musical versions.

Melville on the other hand is

He just ain't part of the canon. No one reads Moby Dick because they're a goth.

*these are normally the same as it takes quite a loit of gothitude to deal seriously with a heavily pierced bald transexual wearing sixty metres of torn black veils who made a neoclassical/darkwave concept album about how painful it is to be a vampire and gives musician credits to the voices in their head.

Inlander · « **Reply #84 on:** 04 Dec 2009, 19:15 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 04 Dec 2009, 16:30

No one reads Moby Dick because they're a goth.

What about goth whales?

Also now I'm imagining goth remixes of Moby's music. It's pretty entertaining, I can tell you.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #85 on:** 04 Dec 2009, 19:44 »

Quote from: Inlander on 04 Dec 2009, 19:15

Quote from: KharBevNor on 04 Dec 2009, 16:30
No one reads Moby Dick because they're a goth.
What about goth whales?

Be nice, just because they aren't size 0 doesn't make them whales.

beat mouse · « **Reply #86 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 10:17 »

i googled self loathing and got this. it raised an interesting point. touche, google.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #87 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 10:36 »

Nah, the Murderdolls are punx!

Silly tommy.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #88 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 12:36 »

Tripp Eisen is an Ayn Rand fan who used to be in Static X. Murderdolls is pretty much the best thing he has done with his life.

Also he did it after the band split up. Maybe the Murderdolls were responsible for reigning in his inner demon all thos years? We will never know. I do, however know that I come from the planet beyond the stars, looking for some human body parts. I’m gonna pull your body from your grave, cause I’m graverobbing U.S.A.

And I’m riding around in my black starship, looking for some crypts to kick. I’m gonna pull your body from your grave, cause I’m graverobbing U.S.A.

And I’m graverobbing U.S.A.

And I’m graverobbing U.S.A.

And I’m digging up the dead today

KharBevNor · « **Reply #89 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 12:37 »

Cause I’m graverobbing U.S.A.

Or was that a Frankenstein Drag Queens Song? or was it one of the ones they recycled. I can't recall!

Ozymandias · « **Reply #90 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 12:44 »

Alex C · « **Reply #91 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 14:49 »

Please.

The gothiest thing about Jodie is that she's never really claimed to be goth.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #92 on:** 07 Dec 2009, 15:31 »

Jodie is too tiny to be goth. I think she's some kind of pixie or perhaps a kobold. Different species.

Maybe she could be Mini Siouxsie Sioux. Kinda like Mini Marilyn Manson, only way gother.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #93 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 03:53 »

Quote from: beat mouse on 07 Dec 2009, 10:17

THE FUCKIN WINEHOUSE

what the shit is going on with the right side of her dress

Quote from: KharBevNor on 07 Dec 2009, 15:31

Mini Marilyn Manson

What the shit is going on with his ribs

Quote from: KharBevNor on 07 Dec 2009, 12:36

Also he did it after the band split up. Maybe the Murderdolls were responsible for reigning in his inner demon all thos years? We will never know.

Eisen was in that band for all of about ten minutes. He barely played on the record and left before they did any touring. It's entirely possible he got kicked out for being a pedophile. Or a libertarian.

Also let's not forget that he was in Dope! Dope.

In conclusion, fuck that guy.

elizaknowswhatshesfor · « **Reply #94 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 06:23 »

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Eisen holds, and is vocal about, libertarian views. He is an avid fan of author Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, Anthem), and promoted Rand's philosophy of Objectivism while in the public spotlight by wearing t-shirts such as "Who Is John Galt?", "Equality 7-2521", and "Brother, You Asked For It", and by talking to fans and the media about Rand. He was the only member of Static-X to regularly post on the band's internet forums.[citation needed]

In 2005 Eisen was arrested for the kidnapping and sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl. He plead guilty to charges of statutory rape and was sentenced to one year in jail.

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Sexual assault charges

While a member of Static-X, Eisen was arrested on February 10, 2005 on a felony charge in Orange County, California for having sexual intercourse with an underage girl. He was released on bail after only a few hours in custody. Just two weeks later, on February 24, 2005, Eisen was arrested again in California by New Jersey detectives for the alleged kidnapping and sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl from Sayreville, New Jersey. New Jersey State Police alleged that Eisen posed as a Static-X fan on the Internet and lured the girl starting in October 2004 and culminating with sexual intercourse on January 7, 2005.[1]

Upon hearing of the arrests, Static-X fired Eisen and replaced him with the original guitarist Koichi Fukuda (whom Eisen had replaced after Fukuda left the band in 2001). When Wayne Static was asked about Eisen's firing he said: "I knew immediately that we were going to kick him out of the band. We had to do that."

On June 24, 2005, Eisen pled guilty to the California charges of statutory rape and was sentenced to a year in state prison. After spending late February to late September 2005 in California prison, Eisen was released and due for an October 7, 2005 arraignment in New Jersey on the February 24 charges.[2]

Eisen is back in jail as of December 10, 2008 following a parole violation. He is scheduled to be released on October 19, 2009.

Well I didn't know any of that....

Ptommydski · « **Reply #95 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 07:20 »

None of those things matter in Goth/Not Goth.

For example -

OR IS IT?

David_Dovey · « **Reply #96 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 07:35 »

Goth and Black Metal are two very different things Tommy geez haven't you learned anything

Ptommydski · « **Reply #97 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 07:41 »

PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME.

Zingoleb · « **Reply #98 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 07:57 »

?

no nevermind fuck I am terrible at this

Luke C · « **Reply #99 on:** 08 Dec 2009, 08:01 »

I like this thread.

How about:

(This was the first thing that came up when I searched goth or not goth on google images.

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