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WCT April 5-9, 2010

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kent_eh:

--- Quote from: Tuitsuro on 05 Apr 2010, 04:28 ---Marigold's good at hating herself.  She's had years of experience to know how to berate herself, and if you've ever dealt who's truely like Marigold then you know it's very hard to get them out of that mindset.

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My wife has been suffering from Depression for about a year, or more.

No matter how hard you want/need to help them, there's not much you can truly do for them, other than:


-keep yourself from being destroyed. (despite your gut reaction, this is priority #1)
-Be supportive.
-try to minimize the collateral damage of their bad decisions.
-hope that they stick to their medications and eventually return to their old self ('cause it won't just go away on it's own)

AshiHalfangel:
Hanners probably shouldn't yell at her like that, but also being all "Awwz poor widdle Mar Mar ish so saaaaaaad!" doesn't help either. Kinda need a healthy balance of being supportive, yet not in a way that babies them. Cause normally when I get depressed about something and everyone is all "aww poor you" makes me even more depressed. But when someone is like "Hey, that sucks and I feel really bad for you...but...*insert "wake the hell up, it's not all about you, but in a nice way" speech* then I'm able to break away from it and think, "Hey, it's not so bad when you really think about it."

fineout:
i dont see why you guys blame hannelore for reacting like she did, people crying over something their own naivety created are annoying, and she clearly just explained why she is getting fed up. I had a girlfriend like that and dropper her like a bad habit because it annoyed the shit out of me.

Is it cold in here?:
Hannelore is nowhere near having one of her She-Hulk moments. I mean the severity is nowhere near that level. She may be microseconds away from it, though.

What she's doing is the equivalent of Sven hitting Faye with a rolled-up magazine. It may not work.

The lifetime of persecution Marigirl endured leaves an invidious choice. The old saying is that "If twenty people call you a horse, buy a saddle". We're not wired to ignore the opinions of those around us, except for psychopaths. She could either have gone crazy or believed the abusers.

Apropos of nothing, I wonder if it means anything that all the late-night visitors picked "chocolate" in the poll and the later ones picked the more violent options.

carvin:
A stern reaction when you are depressed and want pity is a bitter pill. I've taken enough pills in my life to know they often are the most useful (real and metaphorical).

Hanners is right. If nothing else she has every right to be mad. It's also what Marigold needs. Marigold needs to realize that Angus genuinely care about her. To the outside observer (us AND Hanners) it is obvious. To Marigold, well, she's never been in this place. She's probably never thought anyone 'liked' her before now at all, much less acted on it. General rejection is no where near 'true rejection' where there is some possibility of gain (in other words, the fact that she's been a social reject her whole life is not as harsh as being rejected by someone she thought might actually be romantically interested). She's essentially living what most people experienced in High School or at least College (the only people who avoid this are the people that have enough early success that they are mostly immune to later rejection). This undoubtedly is the hardest social issue she's had with a peer (and maybe more, but we don't know about her family life). But like I was saying, Marigold needs to realize that Angus still cares about her because he IS a friend. When Angus does get back in the picture, he needs to not say the "I'd like to still be friends" but "We are still friends". Perhaps some kind of honesty on his part as to why he rejected her. Honestly, I'd like to know that too... I mean, if I was him I'd be all over that like a teabagger on a dollar. Likely it's because he likes Faye. If it's something else, well, he needs to own up to it (he doesn't see any future in it, she's not 'attractive' to him... honestly, I can't think of anything else, and these are lame...).

tl;dr Carvin over analyzes things.

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