Again, if you have an opinion, that is completely fine. If you'd like to see something happen in QC and feel like sharing that idea, wonderful. If you feel that a certain development isn't what you like, you are totally welcome to share that opinion. I like opinions, honestly I do.
But, if you're one of the people who posts only to share the opinion that everyone else's opinion is retarded and you are right... and there have been a lot of those people posting in this thread... then I have only one thing to say to you.
Ahem.
If it matters to anyone, I actually do want Dora and Marten to stick together. The only place where couples never fight is in Disney movies and fanfiction, that's just a fact.
Okay, that's not really much.
Okay, yes, point. But the difference is that I'm not trying to call people idiots who disagree with me. I'm calling people idiots who disagree with everyone. It's a fine line, and more than a little hypocritical of me, I suppose. But just because I'm hoping one thing will happen doesn't mean that I'm closed to the idea of anyting else happening. I'm simply saying that couples do fight, and while they do lead to breakups, completely justified ones, they're also not definitive proof that the two people were wrong for each other all along. Although I may hope for a certain outcome, and I suppose it does colour my rants more than a little, I'm trying to say that things aren't necessarily as straightforward as they look. And, I guess, maybe stepping on my own tongue a little in the duration, but, y'know. Pobody's Nerfect.
If we are to continue thinking of Marten and Dora as reasonable people (or characters) then they should not break up over this. Arguing otherwise is idiotic and proof that you know fuck-all about relationships.
Oh. Eek.
You're just as bad as everyone else. And that's okay! But it probably makes it even more pointless to pen novellas attempting to persuade people not to express their opinions so forcefully on the interwebs.
Now, I do want to address the "know fuck-all about relationships" comment. Yes, it's naive to think couples never fight. It is also naive to think that love conquers all or that two people who have feelings for one another will find a way to be compatible. Or whatever reason drove you to make that comment. Will they break up and would that be the best for both or either of them in the long run? I dunno. But my opinion is that it would be wise. They bring out the worst in each other. Marten's lack of assertiveness allows Dora to put off dealing with her insecurities and leads her to become manipulative, whether it was her intention or not (and I don't believe it was). A more assertive person would also be able to actively provide more assurance to Dora. Marten just goes with the flow. Dora needs more than that. Marten needs a girl who is less emotionally dependent on him and won't let him bury all his negative feelings for the sake of smoothing things over. Their flaws cause both of them to act in a way that enables the other one's flaws. It's possible they could work on it together, but they've both let it go on so long that it may be harder than a clean break would be. It's unfortunate to invest so much in a relationship only to find out much later that you and your partner have some serious incompatibilities, especially when you are still in love with them. It's much easier to find those things out sooner. But real life's not that kind, why should the comic be?
Well, that comment kind of relies on the one that follows it - they don't HAVE to be reasonable. In between the camps that say "They will always get over things and love each other" and "They fought so they have to break up" is the fact that people fight all the time and they do recover from it. Or, sometimes, they don't and they break up.
The "reasonable" thing to do is to sit down and discuss things and talk it over. Because - and I say this in full awareness of my own bias, but it's still true - they
do love each other. They need to resolve the issue, and the Disney solution I hinted at would be that they can overcome this and be strong and loving and everything will be wonderful.
But like I noted immediately after saying this, people aren't reasonable. They get emotional, and they say hurtful things, and they make decisions they later regret. Perhaps more importantly, they also make decisions in the heat of the moment that were very much the right decision. Marten and Dora will do what they will do, and they don't have to be reasonable about it. That was what inspired my comment - and someone who expects a Disney solution isn't being realistic. But, at the same time, someone who thinks that either of them can simply "Turn Off" their feelings for each other is equally unrealistic. It just doesn't work that way.
All of my rants, self-serving though they may be, have been trying to hammer home one point: We do not know what will happen next, but whatever it will be, it has to be realistic within the bounds of the story. 20+ pages of bitching that's becoming more and more of a flamewar is not achieving anything except making everyone's ears bleed.
So I guess, yes, I'm a bit of a hypocrite, and in some ways I
am just as bad as everyone else. But if it's worth anything... I at least cop to that freely, and I do try to direct my rants in a neutral direction. Maybe it doesn't always work, but hey, I'm trying.
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Topic: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800) (Read 445536 times)