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Yes.

15 (5%)

No, it's not the same.

14 (4.7%)

No, it's even worse.

25 (8.4%)

No, it means Dora's history.

30 (10.1%)

No, because it's going to end different.

19 (6.4%)

No, because there's emergency bourbon.

17 (5.7%)

UBMEOD!

34 (11.4%)

Oh heck, who am I kidding?

4 (1.3%)

(sniff) No, I've just got (sniff) allergies...

31 (10.4%)

This thread is gonna hit 40 pages by tomorrow, isn't it?

109 (36.6%)

Total Members Voted: 237

[ChibiSoma]

And yes. Getting out of a one-sided, doomed relationship is better than trying to make it work. That, my friends, only makes things worse. This I have experienced. This I know. When things fall apart, sometimes you just have to walk away, suck it up, and move on. You can't let things get awkward, you can't turn into a mopey wiener, and you can't MOVE BACK HOME.

Besides, Pintsize would spend the whole trip home singing Crazy Train.

[nockiemommy]

So  can :psyduck:we posibly  make a thread  dedicated  soley to  MOAR PSYDUCK?  Just wonderin' ... Happy Psyduck Random Dancing! 

 Okay, maybe that isn't the right one, since I expected/hoped for this. Maybe   Nope, not quite it. Fuck it, I'm going with the duck  


...Wow.

 

There is no evil in bringing more psyduck to this thread.

edit: Ok before anyone points out that I quoted the post directly in front of me, it's obvious at the rate of postings on this page that I had no way to expect I would actually be able to do that.

It's all good, Moar Psyduck!!!!!

Your command is my wish.

  ...

MARRY ME! *giggle*

[Visible_One]

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... I haven't even started yet.

I made the mistake of reading the latest comic with Powderfinger's Nobody Sees playing in the background. Live, too, which only makes it more poignant. Damn.

But is this something unique in Dora's relationship history? She's broken up with Marten and taken the blame for why it wasn't working, rather than putting it on him.
I really, really hope that this doesn't all end in disaster; to me this looks like a breakup which will be massively sad for all concerned, but which at least will be understood and which kind of makes sense. Marten admitted to Faye that he was bitter because he thought he would have to be in the wrong again. He's sick of that. Dora knows this. They're both sick of the problems, and she has identified the cause, or at least a cause, as one that is ingrained so deeply in her mind that she doesn't see a way to fix it.
Hopefully that makes sense.

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Oh Lord.

[nockiemommy]

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... I haven't even started yet. 

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Oh Lord.

I think the forum is maybe having an issue *nodnods*

[cannoli]

Someone before me (or a bunch of someones) said that this was Dora's subconscious mind taking the easy way out, or some such thing, and I agree.  Ending the relationship is, for Dora, the LEAST painful option: it means she doesn't have to dig through her insecurities and work on them, which would be far harder and more agonizing than losing the first "nice guy" she's ever had.  It also leaves her free to continue along her past path of miserable relationships, unhindered.  Counter-intuitive as it seems, self-destructive behavior perpetuates itself - why do so many people end up in one abusive relationship after another?  It's what they've come to expect: it's familiar, it's comfortable.  Finding psychic health and balance, THAT is hard.  And dangerous.  And means letting down the barriers, letting people in, and risking having them hurt you again.  No, better to find the asshole bastard who you KNOW is going to hurt you; at least then, you know what to expect.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.  


ps: to the folks who said stuff like, Whoa, awesome first post, waaaaay back there in the thread: *blush* thanks.  Sorry I can't live up to that eloquence at the moment; I'm kind of fried right now...

[Smoot]

Guys… it’s obvious what’s going to happen next.

I mean, Marten broke up with his girlfriend after about two months of blissy-ness.. and sure it went bad for a while, but you've got to consider the good times. (They had good times together- he came right out and SAID it). Plus, he obviously cared about her- look how far he went for the relationship- with the moving and all.

She has her issues, of course, and even characters in the comic aren’t inclined to be on her side (since, after all, it’s sort of oriented to being the Marten Show) – some people even call her a ‘bitch’. (Not my thing, of course.)

But even though his girlfriend broke it off, he should go back and keep trying- if you don’t stick your neck out and try, then it’s not really love, right?

Dora?  No, I mean Vicky.
----
OK- seriously though. The "if you don't think (x plotline) is what should happen, you've never been in love for real" thing? That's kind of excessive.

[Inclement]

Screw moving back home, take a pack of darts to a map of the states and roll a d20 on the results to figure out where to go for a fresh start next.  Stuff Pintsize in a trunk and leave him be, ghosts of the past can only haunt you so far.

[AngelofShadows]

Friday Predict?

At the apartment. Faye is there waiting when Marten walks in. She asks if everything is ok. No response. She asks again. He simply walks past her to his room. Before shutting the door he says one line, emotionally drained.

"I'm going to bed....and then I'm going home."

Door closes. FUCKING CLIFFHANGER FOR A WEEK!

  Maybe, maybe not, but there's definitely going to be a cliffhanger.  Jeph loves to torment us.  

It's what makes the most sense. Know what sucks more than getting dumped? Seeing the person who dumped you because you have nearly the exact same social circle. Marten has Steve, and that's iffy now due to his current flame working with Dora, and besides, he doesn't seem the type to make people choose between him and Dora, so I see him taking a sabbatical for a while to clear his head and let things cool down a bit.


edit, I kinda would assume that people would realize if he did leave he would come back. He has a job and he wouldn't screw Faye over with the apartment like that. Saying that Dora could still stay to negate costs would probably come across a tad bitter.

[eyosgkxb]

Can't wait for the fallout, don't pull the rug out from under us Jeph.

I already made my party thread.

[redragon5000]

Can't wait for the fallout, don't pull the rug out from under us Jeph.

I already made my party thread.

No offense, but I partly hope he does. Then, your party thread will be ruined. 

[nockiemommy]

This'll be like totally random ... but how do ya'll get the little tags under your display images?

[westrim]

Okay, now that I'm done ducking the issue *gets hit with tomato*, I've stayed out of the massive dick broom fight while I waited to see what would happen- and what I wanted to happen, happened. Well, the event anyway. I sure hope the aftermath goes well.
Or less diplomatically FUCKING CALLED IT Don't go searching this thread, I mean in previous discussions about their relationship


This puts a whole new light on her moving in, doesn't it? Now it seems to me like an attempt to keep a strained relationship by being closer physically, but ended up just feeding her paranoia more fuel.

Plus, this isn't the first time a girl's broken up with a guy over his porn, amirite? *Hockey puck to nose*


   
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It was 5 minutes!  

[Somniloquence]

...I just became slightly more depressed because of my social circle. In which two couples broke up recently. And it's kind of been hate/spite with the dumpee towards the dumper. It makes me sad. Eek.

Damn comics reminding of real life.

[iduguphergrave]

grrrrr I can't wait for this morning class to be over so that I can once again stay up all night doing something way more constructive by arguing about a comic on the internet. Plus i'm a little too upset by the comic to sleep well. DAMN YOU AND YOUR SUPERIOR STORYTELLING, JACQUES (I love you)!!!!!

Anyway I can't wait to see the 10 pages that are gonna be added once I log back on. Good times.

[texascl]

First time to the forums 'cause I couldn't find the things.

Anyways, on to the discussion.

O.K. After thinking about this I realized this was foreshadowed.

Starting with this comic. In it, Faye and Angus say their favorite Toto song at the same time, which happens to be Africa.

Later when Faye gets home in this comic, she asks Marten the same thing. He has an entirely different favorite Toto song.

Finally, in this comic, Marten asks Dora (while she's trying to sleep mind you) her favorite Toto song and she outs and says Toto sucks.

It seems to me Jeph is using Toto as a means for a character to find his or her in comic soulmate. Or I may be over thinking this. /shrug

Fix'd some forgotten typos.

[Indicible]

Diantre. Tudieu. Morbleu.

That was... emotion-filled. And the worst (or best, all things considered) is that I can imagine such a conversation IRL, complete with Marten's expressions. Bravo Jeff

So, what is left for Marten?
Go into a drunken stupor what for Agent What's-his-name-now to knock on his door and get whisked into secret services with Steve as his mentor... And Pintsize will get reincarnated into a bitchin' AI for Marten's car (OF JUSTICE!), helping him to pick up babes and then ditch them.
Oh, and Dora will move in with Tai.

Jeff will of course provide the explicit material while Yelling Bird gives us the morals of this tale:
And then they all fucked!

[ChibiSoma]

No, Dora fucking moved in so she could purposely try to catch Marty macking on Faye.

The underpants incident was what she had been WAITING for.

[Torlek]

Friday Predict?

At the apartment. Faye is there waiting when Marten walks in. She asks if everything is ok. No response. She asks again. He simply walks past her to his room. Before shutting the door he says one line, emotionally drained.

"I'm going to bed....and then I'm going home."

Door closes. FUCKING CLIFFHANGER FOR A WEEK!

  Maybe, maybe not, but there's definitely going to be a cliffhanger.  Jeph loves to torment us.  

It's what makes the most sense. Know what sucks more than getting dumped? Seeing the person who dumped you because you have nearly the exact same social circle. Marten has Steve, and that's iffy now due to his current flame working with Dora, and besides, he doesn't seem the type to make people choose between him and Dora, so I see him taking a sabbatical for a while to clear his head and let things cool down a bit.

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Frack. I haven't even started.

I really see this happening unless he somehow manages to get Dora to agree to work her problems out. If she refuses, I wouldn't be surprised if Marten is gone for a long while. I'm talking months.

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Wow, I'm almost disappointed it's less than 10.

[rje]

Someone before me (or a bunch of someones) said that this was Dora's subconscious mind taking the easy way out, or some such thing, and I agree.  Ending the relationship is, for Dora, the LEAST painful option: it means she doesn't have to dig through her insecurities and work on them, which would be far harder and more agonizing than losing the first "nice guy" she's ever had.  It also leaves her free to continue along her past path of miserable relationships, unhindered.  Counter-intuitive as it seems, self-destructive behavior perpetuates itself - why do so many people end up in one abusive relationship after another?  It's what they've come to expect: it's familiar, it's comfortable.  Finding psychic health and balance, THAT is hard.  And dangerous.  And means letting down the barriers, letting people in, and risking having them hurt you again.  No, better to find the asshole bastard who you KNOW is going to hurt you; at least then, you know what to expect.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.  


ps: to the folks who said stuff like, Whoa, awesome first post, waaaaay back there in the thread: *blush* thanks.  Sorry I can't live up to that eloquence at the moment; I'm kind of fried right now...

I AGREE WITH YOUR POST
That's all I'm really gonna be able to say I think. xD

Not happy with this cos that reason she stated - Faye, seriously? - feels all kinds of wrong for me. I could see her being afraid of a lot of other things, but that one is just too easy to pick. But hey - SOMETHING IS HAPPENING! That's cool!

Ohhh a breakup when you're LIVING TOGETHER omfg those are haaaarshhhh. I went through that, but it was after 7 years.

Oh hell and this is going to affect Faye's job too ain't it. Oogh.

[helloandgoodbye]

No, Dora fucking moved in so she could purposely try to catch Marty macking on Faye.

The underpants incident was what she had been WAITING for.

  You're insane.     

[eyosgkxb]

Click for link to party thread.

No, Dora fucking moved in so she could purposely try to catch Marty macking on Faye.

The underpants incident was what she had been WAITING for.

I don't normally agree with anime fans, but you hit the nail on the head. 2 points.

[ecstaticjoy]

I actually intended to keep up with this thread and am on page 17 now. Screw you guys

lol

[cosmictruffle]

First post here, I was putting off joining but I wanted to comment on this.

I see some people said that Faye might get pissed at Dora. Personally, I think she'll feel guilty - after all, she did make the suggestion to ask Pintsize about Marten's porn (and she felt guilty at first for the underpants incident as well, I believe). My main worry is that Marten will go to Faye for comfort and either Dora will be all "Hah! I knew you still wanted her!" or Angus will get jealous.

I really hope we get to see Sven talk to Dora, though.

[themacnut]

Ending the relationship is, for Dora, the LEAST painful option: it means she doesn't have to dig through her insecurities and work on them, which would be far harder and more agonizing than losing the first "nice guy" she's ever had.  It also leaves her free to continue along her past path of miserable relationships, unhindered.  Counter-intuitive as it seems, self-destructive behavior perpetuates itself - why do so many people end up in one abusive relationship after another?  It's what they've come to expect: it's familiar, it's comfortable.  Finding psychic health and balance, THAT is hard.  And dangerous.  And means letting down the barriers, letting people in, and risking having them hurt you again.  No, better to find the asshole bastard who you KNOW is going to hurt you; at least then, you know what to expect.

That's the really sad part of this-I can see Dora hooking up with one of her past Alpha-Goth exes, or even a new asshole-type, just to relieve the loneliness and hornyness, maybe even partly out of a desire to punish herself for hurting Marten. 'Cause after all, she already knows where THAT road is gonna end up.

That's usually what happens when girls with a history of dating assholes date a decent guy; they end up dumping the decent guy for whatever reason and go right back to the assholes, 'cause at least with the assholes they know what to expect.

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I knew I was taking too long to type that...

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OK this is getting ridiculous .

[nockiemommy]

Click for link to party thread.

No, Dora fucking moved in so she could purposely try to catch Marty macking on Faye.

The underpants incident was what she had been WAITING for.

I don't normally agree with anime fans, but you hit the nail on the head. 2 points.

Poor guy does look like he just got hit in the stomach with a four-by-twelve ... BTW woohoo 13 posts!! ... I truly have no life.

[snubnose]

Well, this looks like THE BREAKUP to me.

Although I have to say, this one is really entirely Doras fault.

Its Marten who keeps giving her chances to repair the whole thing.

[Shadws]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

[bunnyThor]

Finally.

I think we can all agree that Dora can do better than Mr. Hoodie McSpineless, am I right?

I mean, she can't do worse than Faye's latest beau.

[Somniloquence]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

Wow, that kind of makes me what to cry. I'm sorry, dude. My condolences.

[AnAverageWriter]

Also, Dora is wearing Sven's hoodie.  

Glad to know I'm not the only one that's noticed this.

Dora wearing Sven's hoodie means one of three things-
1: Either Dora and Sven have already had the "talk" (you know, the one folks here were clamoring to see, wondering where Sven has been)...
2: Dora randomly plucks dirty laundry from Sven's basket...
3: Dora's been rooting around in Sven's closet/hoodie drawer.

While I could see 3 happening, given Dora's total lack of appreciation for "this is not your stuff",  I think 1 makes more sense.

[akronnick]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

You poor bastard!

[emeraldbeacon]

So, it should be somewhere around the beginning of the year that Dora realizes she's pregnant?

 

[redragon5000]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

Wow...that totally sucks. I'm sorry that happened...

[nockiemommy]

So, it should be somewhere around the beginning of the year that Dora realizes she's pregnant?

 

Out of my head!!

[Streetwise]

So, it should be somewhere around the beginning of the year that Dora realizes she's pregnant?

 

no, no no no no no, you can't do this to me, no

now i'm going to be thinking about this for months. thanks.

[Smoot]

 my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did.

Whoa- tough break. Sorry that happened, man.

[Delator]

You can't let things get awkward, you can't turn into a mopey wiener, and you can't MOVE BACK HOME.

Besides, Pintsize would spend the whole trip home singing Crazy Train.

...but Crazy Train is the best song ever! 

[themacnut]

So, it should be somewhere around the beginning of the year that Dora realizes she's pregnant?

 

Oh that would be SO very wrong. But it'd generate another 30 pages just on the day the strip posted. Soap-opera level drama, it would be.

[knucklesandgyros]

Click for link to party thread.

No, Dora fucking moved in so she could purposely try to catch Marty macking on Faye.

The underpants incident was what she had been WAITING for.

I don't normally agree with anime fans, but you hit the nail on the head. 2 points.

Poor guy does look like he just got hit in the stomach with a four-by-twelve ...

Shoot, I know that face...I had that face when I went through my own breakup. It's pretty much the same description except that you're completely numb after the initial hit. It's like everything around you is in slow motion as you stand there and just are blankly staring and trying to process what was just said to you. It's a hard emotion to capture artistically but Jeph did it so wonderfully. I salute you, Jeph on that!

Meanwhile, holy crap did shit get real. Jeph had been foreshadowing for a while but I didn't think it'd get to this point. I thought it was starting to get a little boring and that whole Toto conversation really made me think and wonder. I just hope that this doesn't start up a return of Marten/Faye because I truly think that ship has sailed and I'd hate for that whole "What's your favorite Toto song?" conversation to be for naught. I thought that was a wonderful way to show how the ship had truly sailed. Also I really like Angus as a character and I love Angus and Faye's banter.

I kind of feel like possibly Marten/Hanners could very possibly be on the horizon. I find it pretty interesting that they met like the day after The Talk and she was someone else who couldn't be with someone at the moment. Much character development later, and it's quite possible that maybe, just maybe, she could be ready. So in a sense, Marten has waited...it just wasn't for Faye. I dunno, I'm just yammering away so who knows. For all we know we'll probably randomly meet someone new or Marten would realize he's gay and him and Dale end up in a relationship. I dunno.

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[akronnick]

So, it should be somewhere around the beginning of the year that Dora realizes she's pregnant?

 

No.

Ctrl-Alt-Del steals Jeph's material, not the other way around!

[nockiemommy]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

Damn, dude. That bites. If it makes you feel any better I just got the "It's not you, it's me" thing from my old man. Jeph, you write great comics ... But life-timing ... blows.  

[ChibiSoma]

If the pregnancy card is played and this whole thing is called on account of MOOD SWINGS, I will hitchhike across the country just to punch Jeph square in the nards.

A baby does two things in a webcomic like this.

1) CAD.
2) It's the final thing that happens.

I don't think we want either of these.

[AngelofShadows]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

I'm sorry boss. I wish I could offer some sort of consolation.

Would Psyduck make things better?

 

....



Everything will be ok.

[Irenfrea]

Dear Jeph,

You suck. Not for QC, that is totally awesome. I read many webcomics, and none update with the frequency you do, at the high level of you've achieved. Seriously the difference between Comic 1 and Comic 1700+ ....wo.

No you suck because my girlfriend and I split up today...like an hour after Marten and Dora did. Super-mech-ultra-Optimus Prime SAD FACE 

And no not because we RP QC in an unhealthy way. Unrelated reasons...but still! 

wat

[AnAverageWriter]

Everything will be ok.

Not when everyone finds out who's baby it really is.

...

Remember how Dora and Hanners were speaking in eldritch-tongue a while ago?

Yeah.

Expect tentacles.

[Pika_power]

Let's go over who's been affected by this, assuming it stays this way.

Sven is going to have a talk with Marten, and it's through him that we're going to get to see Dora's frame of mind. After all, she's already talked to him, as we can see from the coat. I can see some resentment between Marten and Sven if Sven helped coax Dora to this conclusion. On the other hand, I think it's more likely that he tried to stop this from happening, and failed.

Faye is not going to be happy, although no one else will blame her, as it has been acknowledged by everyone that Dora's fears are irrational. I can see Faye cussing Dora out over this.

Angus is going to be worried about Marten being a free agent now. After all, Marten's a single guy who liked his girlfriend, and is currently living with her. All of those are going to be warning bells. Angus isn't insecure, but I can't see him going along with the flat set up the way it is at the moment. Faye will have to move out with him at some point, preferably sooner than later.

Hanners is going to be upset over the turmoil, but she won't be overly hit by the fallout. I think Hanten is the most likely pairing now, although that's not saying much. Expecting it to occur in a few hundred strips, minimum.

Marigold is unaffected.

Tai might be a potential love interest for Dora in the future, but I can't see it happening in the next 300 or so strips.

Marten himself looks to be going full BSOD. I can't see him functioning particularly well over the next few strips. He may be told that this is what he really wanted by Faye. I suppose we have to see a bit more of him than the current two panels to fully find out though.

[daryljfontaine]

SLEDGEHAMMER TO THE FACE.

*swings the Ugly Bag of Mostly Dicks around warningly to ensure that the Forum Drama does not eclipse the Comic Drama*
EDIT:  h1naichig0 -- yeah, you, new guy -- nice troll, take it elsewhere.

Hanner won't get into anything physical with Marten, unless her dad invents a body sized condom.

Frank Drebin beat you to it.

Friday's strip:

Panel 1: Side view of Sad!Dora and Devastated!Marten, no dialogue.
Panel 2: Dora: "KIDDING!  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA You should see your face right now!"  No change to Devastated!Marten's expression.
Panel 3: Faye, coming in from off-screen: "Did he buy it?"  Dora, looking up at her:  "Hook, line, and sinker.  Now pay up, you owe me $20."  No change to Devastated!Marten's expression.
Panel 4: No dialogue; Marten seen from chest down walking offscreen as the blood pools around Faye and Dora's bodies.

Monday:  KITTENS.

D

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That's what I get for catching myself up on the thread while composing...

[Irenfrea]

Everything will be ok.

Not when everyone finds out who's baby it really is.

...

Remember how Dora and Hanners were speaking in eldritch-tongue a while ago?

Yeah.

Expect tentacles.

No one asked were did Pintsize did get that gift for Momo-Tan a while ago.

Nor we know what happened with it.

[Y]

A baby does two things in a webcomic like this.
1) CAD.
2) It's the final thing that happens.

A miscarriage arc would definitely not go well. Also considering the time that has passed in QC so far, it will take a very long time until it's born or grows up.

[eyosgkxb]

i am making an anti dora shirt as week speak

I'll take 2. Large please.