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Is this "The Talk" all over again?

Yes.
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No, it's not the same.
- 14 (4.7%)
No, it's even worse.
- 25 (8.4%)
No, it means Dora's history.
- 30 (10.1%)
No, because it's going to end different.
- 19 (6.4%)
No, because there's emergency bourbon.
- 17 (5.7%)
UBMEOD!
- 34 (11.4%)
Oh heck, who am I kidding?
- 4 (1.3%)
(sniff) No, I've just got (sniff) allergies...
- 31 (10.4%)
This thread is gonna hit 40 pages by tomorrow, isn't it?
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1450 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:30 »

Ahaha, I didn't see the 'this thread is going to hit 40 pages' until I'd already voted.

To weigh in: I feel sad and relieved all at the same time.  Dora handled her words really well.   I don't think it's completely her fault (the relationship's failing), but obviously she's got some issues she needs to work out.   

I'm a little sad that Marten had implied in yesterday's comic that he would merely 'do the same old thing' to make things better...  If you don't communicate, nothing gets accomplished.  Hopefully, that's something he'll take away from this..
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1451 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:30 »

So I have been thinking about this allllll night instead of sleeping :/

Anyway, I think that they should stay broken up, I think it will be interesting, we haven't really seen a break-up between the major characters, it will be a different side of relationships for us to see instead of the lovey-dovey honeymoon stage, the comfortable stage, the constant fighting stage and now we can see the break-up stage, and I am excited about that!

Plus, if Marten stands up to her now and says "No I don't want to be broken up I want to work on this etc.. etc.." and they do resolve it at this moment, then how do we know Marten isn't going to hold some sort of resentment against Dora because she wanted to break-up with him? I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who tried to break up with me. Even if they were doing it to spare my feelings.

But hey I could be totally off the mark here. I usually am.

Now I am going to go drink a shit tonne of caffeine to wake myself up for the day!
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1452 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:36 »

"And if that don't work... use more gun."

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The Railgun:  For those who've outgrown their Gatling Gun.

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1453 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:43 »

I can't really see Marten coming back with something along the lines of "no we're not broken up" like a couple have suggested here.

Mostly because he's spent a long time (his whole life?) pretty much rolling over and going with what the women in his life tell him.  *Not* agreeing to the end of the relationship here would be an odd way to buck that trend.

Though thanks for the Seinfeld reminders..."Moira, turn your key!"
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1454 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:53 »

They will then be forced to cross Hanzo swords...


Oh I think Jeph would do a gorgeous job of a sword-duel-in-the-snow!

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1455 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:57 »

They will then be forced to cross Hanzo swords...


Oh I think Jeph would do a gorgeous job of a sword-duel-in-the-snow!

You're tempting me to re-watch Kill Bill instead of Dr. Who, tempter!
I agree with very little of what you've said in this forum but at least I know you have exceptionally good taste. I have to admit my plans for the evening involve disc two of series five of Doctor Who and I'm extremely excited about the whole thing. [/thread derailing]

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1456 on: 18 Nov 2010, 12:58 »

I can't really see Marten coming back with something along the lines of "no we're not broken up" like a couple have suggested here.

Mostly because he's spent a long time (his whole life?) pretty much rolling over and going with what the women in his life tell him.  *Not* agreeing to the end of the relationship here would be an odd way to buck that trend.

Though thanks for the Seinfeld reminders..."Moira, turn your key!"

Actually, that's as good a reason as any.  He pauses, reflects on everything that's ever happened to him as he's about to leave and says "F*$% That!!!" to himself, turns around and stands up for not only himself, but the relationship.  I think that's the bigger key.  It's not that he'd be doing it wholly for himself, but for them both, the relationship, etc.  The internal monologue may even be spouted..."You know, when you met me, I was a little indie rock wanna be bitch. And if I've learned anything from you Dora it's not to back down.  Yeah, I'm pissed that you went through my porn stash, but I'm more pissed that you're going to give up on us....blah blah blah"  The gist has been gotten and we will see.

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1457 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:00 »

Omnes una manet nox
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1458 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:02 »

Omnes una manet nox

Omnia iam fient quae posse negabam
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1459 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:10 »

I've been reading QC since an old WoW buddy reccomended it for me, which has been about three or four years now, and looking at all the DramaLlama happenings recently, methinks I'm gonna hop on the forum bandwagon!
Annnnd like hell am I reading through all these pages, so here's my two cents.

The way I've always seen it, Marten tends to be a voice of reason among the group. He's truly got a good heart, and an even better head on his shoulder. He's obviously been a great influence on all of these women he's met, whether it be Faye, Dora, or Hanners. He's been kind to them when they need kindness, and patient with them when they needed patience.

Now, I've never really liked Dora. I think it's because of how she overreacts, and gives everybody those little pet names, like sweetie and 'hun'. I hate people who do that. Anyway, something omething about her very much irks me, but Marten's been with her all this time, and it looks like it's gonna go one of two ways, at least from what I see. Either Marten will finally blow up and dump a bunch of built-up negativity on Dora, or he'll do what he's always done.

Be patient, earnest, sincere, and kind. He will hug her and try and snap some sense into her, as he always does.

Would I like to see these two end for good? Yeah, I kind of would. I don't like Dora, but I certainly believe she deserves somebody who can put up with her insecurities without getting stepped on, and Marten DEFINITELY deserves somebody who isn't quite as issue-filled. I feel like these two have gotten stale, they've fallen into a rut of either fighting or just being together for the sake of being together, I feel.

Honestly? I kind of want to see Marigold! She makes me smile. :D
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1460 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:11 »

On a slightly less serious note, am I the only one who looks at the last two panels of today's comic and hears Bart Simpson saying "You can actually pinpoint the second where his heart rips in half."?

It's a few pages back... but I just had to point this out because I had the EXACT SAME thought run through my head when I saw that last panel. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.  :laugh:
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1461 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:13 »

My Latin is a bit rusty. "Only the night will outlive everyone? Everything will happen anyway ..." I don't get the rest.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1462 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:19 »

Omnes una manet nox

The same night awaits us all.

Everyone is speculating and bloviating and gesticulating about what's going to happen in the next comic, but in the end, what will happen is already decided, and nothing we say here will change it.

The only thing that's left is to wait until the comic is posted and see how things go.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1463 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:20 »

My Latin is a bit rusty. "Only the night will outlive everyone? Everything will happen anyway ..." I don't get the rest.

Omnes una manet nox - The Same Night Awaits Us All

Omnia iam fient quae posse negabam - Everything which I used to say could not happen will happen now

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1464 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:24 »

Running away is NEVER the answer.
Unless you're being chased by a man with a knife.
nah the answer would be a gun.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1465 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:24 »

Dora is being very rational and mature about this breaking up. If it has to end, its probably better that Dora ends it.
But I feel like Marten cant let go that easy, he's gonna "follow her" like he did to his other ex and try to convince Dora that its worth another shot.

If it does end, does this mean Marten will take it out on Faye? Sure its not his type of reaction, but its very possible that he'll do some things he doesn't typically do after this. I'd be kinda sad to see them give up on something thats lasted so long.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1466 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:27 »

Another long-time lurker, first time poster.

I really don't see them breaking up, and I hope it's not because I'm just projecting what I want to happen onto the strip.

In any case, Marten finally stands up to Dora, and gets mad at her enough that *he* walks away from her, originally. The, (hopefully), logical conclusion is that he does it again on Friday. Possibly with like 3 panels of him just sitting there, and then the last one where he just looks up and says "No."

It's time for Marten to grow a spine. If he truly loves her, he won't let her go, not like this. If she wanted them to break up because she didn't like him anymore, that's one thing, but she basically admitted that she loved him, she has told him that before, but she doesn't want to put him through this because she can't get over her issues. Welp, it's time for Dora to get some therapy, it was alluded to earlier, but I don't believe she ever actually tried it.

I just think that if they do break up, then we're going to have some serious, serious drama that isn't going to go away for quite a while. I really would rather that not happen.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1467 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:28 »

Running away is NEVER the answer.
Unless you're being chased by a man with a knife.

Not in my business.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1468 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:28 »

They will then be forced to cross Hanzo swords...


Oh I think Jeph would do a gorgeous job of a sword-duel-in-the-snow!

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1469 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:35 »

I can't believe I'm still sad about this. I was thinking about it all day long. Even my boss asked me what was wrong.
 
My Boss: Hey. You look sad. Is there something wrong?
Me: Marten and Dora broke up this morning.
My Boss:...Do I know them?
Me: No. They're not real people. *goes back to cooking*
My Boss:...Okay. *walks away*

I mean, honestly, it's probably for the best and all but they had been together for 2/3 of the whole of QC and it's just...I keep seeing Marten's face in the last panel in my head. It's haunts me. He just looks so devastated. :(

And I'll say this again because it can't be said enough--please, please, please don't let this all be a set up for future Marten/Faye. Do NOT want.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1470 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:41 »

I can't believe I'm still sad about this. I was thinking about it all day long. Even my boss asked me what was wrong.
 
My Boss: Hey. You look sad. Is there something wrong?
Me: Marten and Dora broke up this morning.
My Boss:...Do I know them?
Me: No. They're not real people. *goes back to cooking*
My Boss:...Okay. *walks away*

While I can appreciate what you're feeling (Eyrie Productions, that ass who chased Kate out of New Avalon, also the Loss of Kei), I laughed my ass off at that.

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I mean, honestly, it's probably for the best and all but they had been together for 2/3 of the whole of QC and it's just...I keep seeing Marten's face in the last panel in my head. It's haunts me. He just looks so devastated. :(

And I'll say this again because it can't be said enough--please, please, please to let this all be a set up for future Marten/Faye. Do NOT want.

wow, they have been together for a while, haven't they?
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1471 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:42 »

I can't believe I'm still sad about this. I was thinking about it all day long. Even my boss asked me what was wrong.
 
My Boss: Hey. You look sad. Is there something wrong?
Me: Marten and Dora broke up this morning.
My Boss:...Do I know them?
Me: No. They're not real people. *goes back to cooking*
My Boss:...Okay. *walks away*

I mean, honestly, it's probably for the best and all but they had been together for 2/3 of the whole of QC and it's just...I keep seeing Marten's face in the last panel in my head. It's haunts me. He just looks so devastated. :(

And I'll say this again because it can't be said enough--please, please, please to let this all be a set up for future Marten/Faye. Do NOT want.

Wait. You DO want it? Or you do NOT? :P

But agreed. Marten/Faye would be not welcome. Please, no.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1472 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:44 »

And now Marten will take some comfort in the arms of his friend Steve, which will lead to the inevitable hook up between them.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1473 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:44 »

I can't believe I'm still sad about this. I was thinking about it all day long. Even my boss asked me what was wrong.
 
My Boss: Hey. You look sad. Is there something wrong?
Me: Marten and Dora broke up this morning.
My Boss:...Do I know them?
Me: No. They're not real people. *goes back to cooking*
My Boss:...Okay. *walks away*

I mean, honestly, it's probably for the best and all but they had been together for 2/3 of the whole of QC and it's just...I keep seeing Marten's face in the last panel in my head. It's haunts me. He just looks so devastated. :(

And I'll say this again because it can't be said enough--please, please, please to let this all be a set up for future Marten/Faye. Do NOT want.

Wait. You DO want it? Or you do NOT? :P

But agreed. Marten/Faye would be not welcome. Please, no.

Ha. Edited my post. Thanks.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1474 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:46 »

And now Marten will take some comfort in the arms of his friend Steve, which will lead to the inevitable hook up between them.

Now THAT. That right there, that is DO NOT WANT.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1475 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:48 »

OH!  OH!  I'VE GOT IT!!!!

11/19/10
Panel 1:
Marten - "Well, I'd been planning to do this at a better time, but there's really no better way to convince you that you are the woman I really love."

Panel 2:
Marten - *stands up, reaches into hoodie pocket*

Panel 3:
Marten - *down on one knee, holding ring box in front of him* "Dora Bianchi, will you marry me?"

Panel 4:
Beat panel, Marten waits, Dora stares in openmouthed shock.

AND THEN NEXT WEEK BEGINS THE SAGA OF "YELLING BIRD AND SWEET TITS GO TO MEXICO!"
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1476 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:50 »

 :psyduck:

That is almost all.

I've been reading some of the posts here, and I noticed a lot of people are saying "Relationships are a two-way thing! Just because Dora says it's over doesn't mean it's over!" Uh, I'm pretty damn sure that it's over. I mean, assuming Dora doesn't back out and they continue to date, the "relationships are a two-way thing" goes both ways. Yes, both people's opinions matter, but if one person doesn't want it to go on, then it doesn't go on.

Also, I constructed a strip in my head last night, and as sad as it is it's also pretty funny.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1477 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:52 »

I'm not sure how many times I've posted on these forums, I think it's about... 2.  Including this post.  Maybe 3?  Damn.

I don't particularly like Marten and Dora as characters.  Or really Faye, for that matter.  Seriously, I don't know what's wrong with me.  Or maybe them.  I guess I just see Marten as kind of spineless (and he is), a spoiled, whiny, submissive emo boy who needs to GROW A PAIR AND GET A REAL FUCKING JOB AND DEDICATE HIMSELF FULLY TO SOMETHING FOR ONCE IN HIS DAMN LIFE AHHHHHH

Which is kind of ironic seeing as how if Marten was a chick, I'd probably be all over him (her) IRL.  Or jeez... maybe even as a guy.  I dunno.  I think I just had a number of experiences growing up which left me with a very low tolerance for people who refuse to stand up for themselves.  Whether it's a parent, a girlfriend, or a best friend, I've listened to people complain about their very legitimate grievances, given appropriate advice, and watched them discard my and any other good advice and launch themselves into a flaming abyss of self-inflicted misery.  I like that Marten is supportive and I feel that I identify with him in that way, but he lacks assertiveness.  And Dora seems to lack the ability to trust Marten even given overwhelming evidence of his love for her.  I generally see myself as an assertive and ridiculously trusting person, so maybe that's what bothers me about both of them.  Before breaking up, shouldn't they at least have an honest discussion about their issues?  Not a hasty referendum and apology in the middle of an argument?  Like someone else mentioned, Dora did talk about seeing someone to discuss her issues, which I think is a GREAT idea.  Even if it doesn't work out in the end, at least they would know that they tried.  Trust me, that is a small consolation but it is much better than nothing.

A few months ago, I ended a 7-year relationship.  It was my decision and I felt it was the right thing to do, but it was... and is... incredibly difficult.  I felt we tried to make it work - and when it didn't seem like it was working, we talked about it.  We never went to bed angry, we tried taking breaks, counseling, the whole nine yards.  I know that we still love each other very much, but as in Dora and Marten's situation, her insecurity led her to treat me in ways that caused my resentment to build up to the point where we were both bitter and sad and fighting.  What I told her was that although I knew we loved each other, we weren't good for each other right now.  We'd tried to fix things together, but it hadn't worked.  We were set in our ways relationship-wise, and although I could imagine us working in the future, the best thing for us would be to take some time for personal growth and let go of our resentments - things we didn't give each other much room to do when we were together.

So as painful as it has been for me to realize this, sometimes letting go is the best option.  But I believe that part of loving someone is being willing to change, which can be a scary and painful process.  Not change in the sense of trying to become a totally different person just to please them, but in the sense of working on traits and behaviors that you are aware are detrimental to the relationship.  It is possible that Dora's insecurity is tied in some meaningful way to how her relationship with Marten began, and only some time, distance and self-reflection are going to help her get over it.  But I think it's just as possible that this is something she could overcome with a loving and supportive partner and a close circle of friends and confidants, rather than alienating them all and probably feeling like a bad person for a good long while.  At least try it, Dora.

Then again, this is QC - so when it comes to the choice of rational, emotionally mature behavior and boarding the express train to Dramatown, do I REALLY have to ask which Jeph will choose?
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1478 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:53 »

:psyduck:

That is almost all.

I've been reading some of the posts here, and I noticed a lot of people are saying "Relationships are a two-way thing! Just because Dora says it's over doesn't mean it's over!" Uh, I'm pretty damn sure that it's over. I mean, assuming Dora doesn't back out and they continue to date, the "relationships are a two-way thing" goes both ways. Yes, both people's opinions matter, but if one person doesn't want it to go on, then it doesn't go on.

Also, I constructed a strip in my head last night, and as sad as it is it's also pretty funny.

True, but Dora seems to want to break up because she's afraid of hurting Marten, NOT because she actually wants to break up with him. It's not like she's saying I don't love you anymore.
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« Reply #1479 on: 18 Nov 2010, 13:59 »

Screw moving back home, take a pack of darts to a map of the states and roll a d20 on the results to figure out where to go for a fresh start next.  Stuff Pintsize in a trunk and leave him be, ghosts of the past can only haunt you so far.

I read this very quickly and thought a "d20" was some sort of joint that I hadnt heard about yet.  Damn you and your game dice.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1480 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:01 »

Mostly because he's spent a long time (his whole life?) pretty much rolling over and going with what the women in his life tell him.  *Not* agreeing to the end of the relationship here would be an odd way to buck that trend.

Though thanks for the Seinfeld reminders..."Moira, turn your key!"
I really don't agree with the whole "turn your key" thing. If one person gets sick of the other one and calls it quits, then it should be over. It's called "dumping someone". Sure, it sucks, but it happens.

I'm actually glad they broke up, now things will get more interesting. Maybe Marten will join Steve on the drinking wagon or something.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1481 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:03 »

Mostly because he's spent a long time (his whole life?) pretty much rolling over and going with what the women in his life tell him.  *Not* agreeing to the end of the relationship here would be an odd way to buck that trend.

Though thanks for the Seinfeld reminders..."Moira, turn your key!"
I really don't agree with the whole "turn your key" thing. If one person gets sick of the other one and calls it quits, then it should be over. It's called "dumping someone". Sure, it sucks, but it happens.

I'm actually glad they broke up, now things will get more interesting. Maybe Marten will join Steve on the drinking wagon or something.

But again, she's not saying that. She's saying she's breaking up because of something she can't handle.

It's not over yet.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1482 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:04 »

Hot damn, I was finally able to make an account after several months of trying! I've been wanting to comment in these forums since early this year.

In any case, I guess I'm a part of the newbie bandwagon, even if I tried several times to make an account.

I'm not the type of person to go around making predictions about the comic or claiming certain characters are bitches or spineless, I'm just along for the ride. Loving the expressiveness seen today. Can't wait for tomorrow.

P.S. Needs more Marigold/Dale interaction.   :mrgreen:

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1483 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:09 »

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But again, she's not saying that. She's saying she's breaking up because of something she can't handle.
Ah, you're right. My bad. She might just end up talking a break or something, but I doubt it. The comic seemed too dramatic just for a break or a talking-things-out.

P.S. Needs more Marigold/Dale interaction.   :mrgreen:
Agreed. Also, I wonder if Meena will ever come back...
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« Reply #1484 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:09 »

AND THEN NEXT WEEK BEGINS THE SAGA OF "YELLING BIRD AND SWEET TITS GO TO MEXICO!"

This, this I can see happening. Jeph is a compleat bastard, damn near Jim Butcher's class.
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« Reply #1485 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:22 »

Screw moving back home, take a pack of darts to a map of the states and roll a d20 on the results to figure out where to go for a fresh start next.  Stuff Pintsize in a trunk and leave him be, ghosts of the past can only haunt you so far.

I read this very quickly and thought a "d20" was some sort of joint that I hadnt heard about yet.  Damn you and your game dice.

And this opens up a whole different series of jokes about rolling 4d20.

Rollin' a d20 to determine chronic blunt damage, woo.

November 22nd:  YELLING BIRD PRESENTS SIX WEEKS OF GUEST STRIPS, SHITCOCKS.

AND THEN NEXT WEEK BEGINS THE SAGA OF "YELLING BIRD AND SWEET TITS GO TO MEXICO!"

Mediocre minds are stuck in the same rut, and all that.

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1486 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:27 »

30 pages.  Somehow I knew it would be 30 pages when I clicked on the QC Discussion Forum. 

Also, since we've transitioned to Turkey Cavalry, we'll need infantry support, and you can arm yourself with whatever you wish, as long as it's useless if you're squeamish about handling a UBMEOD.

Why not use the USHMEOB?

You could!  However, the Useless Sledgehammer Made Entirely Of Boobs is for bludgeoning people who don't get an obvious punchline and never will get it, so its utility isn't quite the same as the Useless Broom Made Entirely Of Dicks.  Definitely worth having on hand, though.

And now, let the inevitable 17 pages of crusty sweatsock fanfic commence whether we want it to or not.

At least now we might get to see more Faye/Angus and Wil/Penelope. Dora/Marten took up most of the comic's scheduled couples' programming.

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IT BEGINS :psyduck:

Is it just me or is red really hard to read against the grey background?

The red text really does seem to vibrate a bit if you stare at it.

Huh.

Still rings a bit to me of Dora saying, "Deep down, I'm still afraid you'll hurt me, so I've got to do this to protect myself."

Yup.  Even if she's doing it tearfully and more politely, she's sabotaging herself – getting rid of the relationship that may hurt her, like amputating a limb for a papercut.  If she had been willing to pay attention and put the work in to get over her issues and to communicate better with Marten, it could have worked out.  But she'd rather give up, because failing is easier.  Even if she wants to believe it's to protect him, it's really to protect herself.  She's using the "you liked Faye first and I initiated a relationship with you too soon" thing as her excuse, and it's really sad if she's held onto that belief the whole time they've been together (over a year!).  It means she's missed out on so much that's already happened, not just that she's going to miss out on what could have happened next.

I would have liked to see Sven's perspective.  Maybe we will at some point.

Okay, now Sven is going to rebound-fuck Marten. WATCH AND SEE.  :mrgreen:

PLEASE BE RIGHT  :psyduck:

"My body is moving all by itself!"

(Sorry akronnick.)

The problem is that there's no way to know how far to take the Dora-feels-bad-but-doesn't-want-to-hurt-Marten loop.  She's breaking up so that she can stop hurting Marten, but also because she doesn't want to hurt herself, but because she doesn't want Marten to have to deal with her hurting herself, but because she'd feel bad about hurting Marten, but he'd feel bad about her being miserable about him being miserable...

No, that way lies madness.
 

Ah, the painsnake that eats its tail, never a good thing.

Also, in the last poll I voted for "It never ends, kids.  It. NEVER.  ENDS."  (The unending thing being the drama.)  I'm gonna stand by that because really, there will always be more.  'Tis human.

I really don't ship anyone in the strip, but if you're gonna portmanteau, at least make it distinguishable.  For example, Manners could be either Marten/Hannelore OR Marigold/Hannelore (as one or more people have pointed out), plus it's an actual word and doesn't even work as a pun in that context (well, unless said pairing was presented as a Comedy of Manners, but now we're getting way off track).  If you ship Marten/Hannelore – and god(s) help you if you do – please pick something more recognizable, like Hanten, or Martelore. 

One more thought: Marten loses verbal abilities when he's surprised, so given his BSOD face in the last 2 panels, I kinda doubt he's gonna be up for a chat with anyone right after being dumped.  No telling when the numbness is gonna wear off, or whether he'll be mostly sad, relieved, or pissed when it does.  It might be interesting to see Angry Marty for awhile, actually.  I do like Marten, and I want him to be happy, but it may take him awhile to get past this.  Guess we'll see.

 :psyduck:  <-- Psyduck can't fucking wait.






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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1487 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:31 »

30 pages.  Somehow I knew it would be 30 pages when I clicked on the QC Discussion Forum. 

Also, since we've transitioned to Turkey Cavalry, we'll need infantry support, and you can arm yourself with whatever you wish, as long as it's useless if you're squeamish about handling a UBMEOD.

Why not use the USHMEOB?

You could!  However, the Useless Sledgehammer Made Entirely Of Boobs is for bludgeoning people who don't get an obvious punchline and never will get it, so its utility isn't quite the same as the Useless Broom Made Entirely Of Dicks.  Definitely worth having on hand, though.

I think that sometimes this is a UFMEOT, or Useless Forum Made Entirely of Tools


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One more thought: Marten loses verbal abilities when he's surprised, so given his BSOD face in the last 2 panels, I kinda doubt he's gonna be up for a chat with anyone right after being dumped.  No telling when the numbness is gonna wear off, or whether he'll be mostly sad, relieved, or pissed when it does.  It might be interesting to see Angry Marty for awhile, actually.  I do like Marten, and I want him to be happy, but it may take him awhile to get past this.  Guess we'll see.


There we go, Marten's face = BSOD. I'd been poking at that panel, that is the perfect descriptor.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1488 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:34 »

]Meena's married to Dave now.

But speaking of Steve, would he get jealous because of Cosette's former crush on
Marten?
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« Reply #1489 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:36 »

]Meena's married to Dave now.

But speaking of Steve, would he get jealous because of Cosette's former crush on
Marten?

In what context or during what event/time is Steve's jealousy being questioned, here?
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1490 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:38 »

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1491 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:40 »

Ok, wait, it's been how long since their last fight? A few days? Maybe a week at most? How does Dora know she can't improve? She was talking about getting counseling for it, but in this short amount of time I highly doubt she's even had the chance for a single session yet. So she hasn't TRIED to deal with it yet. Working through something means actually taking the steps that are necessary to deal with it, not simply saying "I'll get better" and then being upset when it doesn't miraculously happen.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1492 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:41 »

Some people have been saying "It's time for Steve!" it got me thinking that due to the dressing room freak out, one of the reactions Steve would exhibit (if this is indeed the end) would be jealousy.

Also someone asked where's Meena
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1493 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:47 »

30 pages.  Somehow I knew it would be 30 pages when I clicked on the QC Discussion Forum. 

Also, since we've transitioned to Turkey Cavalry, we'll need infantry support, and you can arm yourself with whatever you wish, as long as it's useless if you're squeamish about handling a UBMEOD.

Why not use the USHMEOB?

You could!  However, the Useless Sledgehammer Made Entirely Of Boobs is for bludgeoning people who don't get an obvious punchline and never will get it, so its utility isn't quite the same as the Useless Broom Made Entirely Of Dicks.  Definitely worth having on hand, though.

I think that sometimes this is a UFMEOT, or Useless Forum Made Entirely of Tools

Heh -- if so, the toolbox is getting laaarrrger . . .   :-D

One more thought: Marten loses verbal abilities when he's surprised, so given his BSOD face in the last 2 panels, I kinda doubt he's gonna be up for a chat with anyone right after being dumped.  No telling when the numbness is gonna wear off, or whether he'll be mostly sad, relieved, or pissed when it does.  It might be interesting to see Angry Marty for awhile, actually.  I do like Marten, and I want him to be happy, but it may take him awhile to get past this.  Guess we'll see.

There we go, Marten's face = BSOD. I'd been poking at that panel, that is the perfect descriptor.

I like the descriptor too, which is why I stole from someone else (can't remember who, sorry).
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« Reply #1494 on: 18 Nov 2010, 14:55 »



Heh -- if so, the toolbox is getting laaarrrger . . .   :-D

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1495 on: 18 Nov 2010, 15:01 »

Why should he go out drinking with Steve? Faye is the one with the emergency burbon.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1496 on: 18 Nov 2010, 15:03 »

Oh my goodness guys. Don't you see what this means?

Next storyline: Tai tires of her polygamous ways and realizes her deep love for Marten, turning straight to console him.
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1497 on: 18 Nov 2010, 15:08 »

Oh my goodness guys. Don't you see what this means?

Next storyline: Tai tires of her polygamous ways and realizes her deep love for Marten, turning straight to console him.

The Taitenic? but we know that sinks already...
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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1498 on: 18 Nov 2010, 15:09 »

good riddance to bad rubbish, I say!

Now Marten can go back to his natural state (i.e. angsty, emo man-child) and Dora can start dating her type again (i.e. vapid jerks who have even less respect for her than she has for herself).

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Re: WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
« Reply #1499 on: 18 Nov 2010, 15:11 »

On the one hand, I'd like to see Marten take an active hand in this- the relationship sort of started for him, and now it's being ended "for" him. On that hand, it'd be nice for him to steer things a way other than 'this is the way it's going'. ("Dora's making out with me... guess this is the way it's going" turned out okay, but he might not necessarily accept "Dora's breaking up with me... guess this is the way it's going.")

On the other hand... if someone you're in a relationship is "out"... you don't get a vote in their decision. It's like if your boss 'didn't accept' you quitting- you're going to stop showing up and working there, that's the deal. All you can do is either try to convince them otherwise, or move on. There's no "I don't accept this breakup- we're not broken up!" option.
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