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Foreshadowing of The Breakup
someone1074:
--- Quote from: emikoala on 22 Nov 2010, 12:05 ---But Marten's way of helping Faye was by letting her off the hook in terms of her guilt that she couldn't return Marten's feelings. He told her, "You've got stuff to work through, I'm going to stop pursuing you and give you space while you do that." Now he's accepted that he has to give Dora her space while she works through *her* stuff.
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In that very comic you linked, he also said, "If you take steps to get yourself fixed up-I mean more than therapy, medication, whatever it takes, I'll do my best to treat you as a friend and not a girlfriend-in-waiting." That's not as much of a hands off approach as he's taking with Dora now. He's proposing to actively check up on Faye and agreed to respect her wishes on the condition that she work to get better.
Here he just said, "Okay, I'm out but I'm totally not okay with this. *sadface*". That's different.
Unless the next few comics elaborate on how Marten feels about it, so far, it seems to strongly suggest that he has no intention of helping her like he did Faye. And I wouldn't have expected that.
graymouser:
--- Quote from: emikoala on 22 Nov 2010, 12:05 ---I don't think Marten is "leaving her to suffer", either. He accepted the breakup, yes. But he doesn't seem angry or spiteful about it - he even told Faye not to go start a fight with Dora over it. There's no reason to assume at this point that he's decided to completely abandon her.
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I dunno. "We're both sick of her crap" sounded pretty, ah, spiteful about the way everything went. He stopped Faye from killing Dora for the mutual benefit of himself and Faye - that is, literally, stopping Faye from running off and getting herself fired, which would make their housing situation even more difficult.
From how things have gone I don't think there is any chance of Marten / Dora rekindling. It's not just giving her time, it's facing rejection after putting up with pretty serious issues for something like a year.
Coco:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1572
Additional foreshadowing strip, and a really adorable relationship moment. Made me laugh and feel very sad at the same time, but no one can put up with their SO acting "stupid and insecure" forever.
Also, Marten is understandably hurt, bitter, and probably more than a little angry at the moment. I don't think this is any reason to believe he plans on abandoning Dora or their friendship entirely. It's also been only a day or two since the big underwear fight when Dora promised to get help. Maybe, as Carl has been saying, Marten and Dora continued talking after sad-face Marten. Maybe Marten reinforced his desire that she get real help. Maybe after he's had time to recover he'll ask that she get help and make the same promise that he made to Faye, that if she gets real help he'll be there for her but try not to treat her as if he's waiting to get back together with her. The possibilities are endless, but I doubt that Dora will in any way become a pariah (at least not for very long) or that Marten will abandon their friendship or make their other friends choose. They wouldn't be the first couple to remain friends after a break up.
melly21:
Marten is not a freaking saint. He got dumped by the chick he really did love and people just expect him to hang around and help out with her issues? Maybe Marten needs some time to work through his stuff too. Did people ever think of that? Maybe he needs to sit down and wonder why he keeps attracting chicks that have "issues". (I do love both Faye and Dora so don't think I am bashing them)
You can't just expect him to go "OK you dumped me, now let's work on those issues!"
I know people will bring up "But he did that for Faye!!!" and yes I realise he did that for Faye but maybe now Marten is just thinking "Ya know what screw this, I am going to work on myself and worry about myself for once" and I think that is extremely OK and long over due for him to do this, I think Marten needs to be a little bit selfish, everyone needs to be selfish at some point in their lives and work on themselves, and I think this is the time for Marten to do this.
Dora has Sven, and hopefully the others won't take sides, I have a feeling after yesterday's comic Faye will be in Marty's corner, but I am hoping the others will help both of them and comfort both of them.
They both have issues, and them helping each other out after they have just broken up just seems like a bad road to go down IMHO.
someone1074:
--- Quote from: melly21 on 22 Nov 2010, 16:17 ---snip
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Except it's pretty clear he hates the situation he's in. Like I said, I wouldn't have a problem with this if he took it a little better, but he clearly wanted to do more about it. He tried to argue his position, but he got cut off. Selfish would have been fighting harder for what he believed was something they could have worked on. You think he'd look as bad as he does now if even some aspect of him wanted this break up?
Your entire argument rests on an unlikely presumption.
Like I said, until we find out more, the only thing we've been presented with is his extreme sadness at this turn about and his reluctant acceptance of Dora's request.
But...different interpretations and all that... >_>
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