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Foreshadowing of The Breakup

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melly21:

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Except it's pretty clear he hates the situation he's in. Like I said, I wouldn't have a problem with this if he took it a little better, but he clearly wanted to do more about it. He tried to argue his position, but he got cut off. Selfish would have been fighting harder for what he believed was something they could have worked on. You think he'd look as bad as he does now if even some aspect of him wanted this break up?

Your entire argument rests on an unlikely presumption and is unrealistic.

Like I said, until we find out more, the only thing we've been presented with his extreme sadness at this turn about and his reluctant acceptance of Dora's request.

But...different interpretations and all that... >_>

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Where in my post did I say he was happy about the break up? Of course he is upset, I acknowledge he was and still is in love with her. I wanted them stay together and work through it. I am just saying that you can't expect the guy to be OK with it and just magically help her out with her issues. He got dumped, of course he is bitter and upset (most people usually are a little upset when they are dumped) and no-one knows what was said off screen, he could have fought for the relationship, we don't know this.

You can't expect someone who has just been dumped to just hang around and help out with their issues. If Dora didn't want to be in the relationship then she didn't want to be in the relationship, I don't think anything he said (or did say) could change this. If someone wants out, they want out.

someone1074:

--- Quote from: melly21 on 22 Nov 2010, 16:17 ---but maybe now Marten is just thinking "Ya know what screw this, I am going to work on myself and worry about myself for once"

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...suggests that he can satisfactorily take advantage of the situation.

And to be frank, Marten was crazy about Faye at first and he took that rejection remarkably well. You say he's not a saint, but he's been portrayed as such throughout most if not all of this comic. He is 'The Good Guy'.

Also:


--- Quote from: melly21 on 22 Nov 2010, 16:17 ---You can't expect someone who has just been dumped to just hang around and help out with their issues. If Dora didn't want to be in the relationship then she didn't want to be in the relationship, I don't think anything he said (or did say) could change this. If someone wants out, they want out.

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She's afraid her issues will consume her and that they'll never get better so she stopped trying. There's a difference. If it were up to her, she would stay in the relationship, but she feels her issues are insurmountable. So were Faye's, in her own eyes, but she took Marten's advice and worked through them.
 

Is it cold in here?:

--- Quote from: Coco on 22 Nov 2010, 13:43 ---http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1572

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Also known as aural sex.

melly21:

--- Quote from: someone1074 on 22 Nov 2010, 16:51 ---
--- Quote from: melly21 on 22 Nov 2010, 16:17 ---but maybe now Marten is just thinking "Ya know what screw this, I am going to work on myself and worry about myself for once"

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...suggests that he can satisfactorily take advantage of the situation.

And to be frank, Marten was crazy about Faye at first and he took that rejection remarkably well. You say he's not a saint, but he's been portrayed as such throughout most if not all of this comic. He is 'The Good Guy'.

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By that I mean so he can take some sort of positive from this situation, some sort of silver lining. I don't see what's wrong with wanting a silver lining in a shitastic time like this. I guess I just worded it wrong. Besides a lot of people after breaking up work on themselves, why is it so wrong for me to hope that Marten will work on his issues? We have seen Faye and Hanners work on theirs, so yes I would love to see Marten take advantage of this and work on himself.

So because he has been "The good guy" all along this means he has to continue being "The good guy". Yes he took the rejection from Faye remarkably well, but maybe this time he is just sick of it, like it has been said in other threads this may have been the straw that broke the camel's back and he doesn't want to be the "The good guy" anymore.

someone1074:
Hm...we definitely have different interpretations of his reaction here. I feel that he is continuing to be "The Good Guy" by not helping her. Why? Because he's allowing her to do what she pleases at the expense of his happiness. Remember, he's unhappy and he thinks her arguments for ending it are ridiculous. But he didn't voice those concerns. He accepted it.

If he were finally able to drop that characteristic and fight for his own interest, selfishly, he would have stayed and and tried to help. Why? Because he wants to stay with her. Helping her through those issues would have granted him that.

Again, this is just from what we've seen. It would definitely help if he spoke more about it in the next few strips.

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