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Caring Hannelore cares!

9 (7.6%)

"You're a terrible influence, alcohol-induced hallucination."

18 (15.1%)

Where's Faye's Bra?

7 (5.9%)

Some kind of creepy trophy...

1 (0.8%)

Sheer Intensity of Makeouts?

4 (3.4%)

Quantum Tunnelling effect

9 (7.6%)

Please tell me you did not drink that entire bottle

0 (0%)

That was a terrible idea.

3 (2.5%)

At least ONE of us isn't gonna remember this in the morning.

15 (12.6%)

Did I say anything stupid last night? No, you were fine.

6 (5%)

OWLS. Owls? OWLS.

38 (31.9%)

So, do you want me to kill Dora for you?

6 (5%)

Love you too, mom.

3 (2.5%)

Total Members Voted: 100

[pwhodges]

Space Owl.

It's been linked twice already today.

[PureLionHeart]

The real question is why the Space Owls attacked.
Marten wasn't exceptionally dressed.

Unless their minds have evolved to understand the great importance of the Worry Hat. In which case, DEAR GOD

[MillionDollar Belt Sander]

I just got back from Mass A Chew Shits where I spy'd on Jeph's super-secret script-writing process using some kind of SCIENCE!.   


Tomorrow's comic:   Martin hugs Faye:  "Thank you for getting me to bed after I passed out"     DORA WALKS IN and here "*static* me -- bed *static* I passed out *static*"  sees them embracing and HELLA DRAMA happens.

[pwhodges]

Somehow I don't think Marten's ready to be anywhere he might meet Dora just yet.

[ducktape]

I just got back from Mass A Chew Shits where I spy'd on Jeph's super-secret script-writing process using some kind of SCIENCE!.   


Tomorrow's comic:   Martin hugs Faye:  "Thank you for getting me to bed after I passed out"     DORA WALKS IN and here "*static* me -- bed *static* I passed out *static*"  sees them embracing and HELLA DRAMA happens.

You mean something along the lines of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1742?
@pwhodges you raise an excellent point.

[MillionDollar Belt Sander]

You mean something along the lines of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1742?

Yup.   

[ducktape]

You mean something along the lines of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1742?

Yup.   

Given that she couldn't imply breakup-potential (obviously), would she threaten to fire Faye (again) or just fume in ineffectual rage? I think it would be more along the lines of jumping to conclusions, saying "Fuck it" and leaving.

[Carl-E]

Ahem. 

She sent Sven to get her things. 

She's not going anywhere near  the apartment for quite a while, methinks. 

Salt in a fresh wound, and all that. 

[iduguphergrave]

On a purely technical note, that is a truly wonderful drawing of Faye in panel 2. I like it when Jeph does close-ups like that.

[charybdis]

We NEED to see the damage Cataclysm has wrought on dear Marigold!

I'm betting it'd be super boring.

"FUCKING VASHJ'IR THIS UNDERWATER REPETITIVE SHIT SUCKS."

Hey you shut up about Vashj'ir, that zone is rad.

Besides, more likely she comes in dazed and muttering about "leveled Archaeology to 525...n-never again..."

You and the girlfriend are both all about that zone.  Maybe it IS me.   

Good lord, Archaeology makes me want to punch small defenseless stuffed animals right in the teeth.

I am not necessarily all about Vashj'ir, but I loved running around fightan naga on my seahorse and how Goddamn pretty it was. It didn't really get repetitive till right near the end, and even then, I could stand it, especially with the culmination.

Archaeology, on the other hand, has me punching small animals right alongside ye, but I can't stop what is wrong with me

I  am all about Vashj'ir. I love it so. So pretty. Can't wait until I get my new computer. Going to set the graphics on Ultra and just run around there for a few days, ogling stuff.
Admittedly, the whole running-around-inside-a-giant-seabeast's-sinus-cavities quest chain(s) did weird me out a bit.

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Damnitall

[pwhodges]

Please be more selective with your quoting - we don't need to reread everything, just enough to provide context for your reply.  Thanks.

[Yellowstone]

You may want to take your own advice and go back to the very beginning of the comic, read the first, oh, 500 strips or so and then come back and seriously post that Marten did not start off in the comic as the stereotypical Nice Guy.

Isn't one of the defining features of the Nice Guy (as opposed to the nice guy) that he wants romantic interest from a woman who is only interested in him platonically?  If so, then I can't agree with your assessment, because it's made very clear that Faye was interested in Marten romantically.  It didn't work out due to her issues, and they've both moved on from that romantic interest.  Still, there's a big difference between thinking that a platonic friend owes you romantic interest, and hoping that a romantic friend will one day overcome her issues and pursue a functional relationship with you.  Only the former is creepy; the latter is, at worse, hopelessly optimistic.

Citation time!
#64 - Steve is convinced that Faye is interested in Marten
#83 - Dora is convinced that Faye is interested in Marten
#118 - Faye creatively dodges the question of whether or not she's interested in Marten
#220 - Faye gets upset when Marten goes out with Dora on the double date with Steve and Ellen
#567 - Faye tells Marten that she's upset by the fact that it's him and Dora who wound up together, not him and herself

[jwhouk]

Irony at work: I decided to hit the "random" button after perusing today's comic one last time.

It forwarded me to #75 - Dora's first appearance.

[azurefirem]

Is it just me or do Faye's boobs seem huge today?

[jwhouk]

Is it just me or do Faye's boobs seem huge today?

It's just you.

[azurefirem]

Is it just me or do Faye's boobs seem huge today?

It's just you.

*shrug*
Either way, I like them a little smaller.

[tHEfOOL]

That said... Veronica is coming to town very soon. She may well see the lump on his head, and start asking questions. Then things will get interesting...

or explodey

[tHEfOOL]

Nobody expects a priest to flip off someone on the highway.

o god now i want to see that

[Fenriswolf]

You know, I believe the argument wrt sexual assault is not that Marten did, or was going to, assault or rape Faye. But rather that rape starting in exactly this kind of situation is extremely common, so it's not a big surprise that a woman would react as Faye did (regardless of her usual excessive use of force).

A man does not necessarily have to be bigger or stronger than a woman for her to freeze in fear, no matter how out of character that may be seen for that particular woman. And a vast majority of rapists are people who are well known for being really good guys who would never do that. And they possibly are really good guys, outside of being rapists. That doesn't change the reality of their actions.

/rant

[Superkid11]

Well yeah, just as people can say horrible things when they're horribly drunk they can also... do horrible things when they're horribly drunk.

Marten wasn't going to but it was good to be safe. Not like she shot him or anything.

[Sorflakne]

Owls?  This looks like a job for the owl exterminators!

[tHEfOOL]

Friday:

marten eating a banana. pintsize shows up and slips on the peel. 

woo old cartoon humor, do very much want

[tHEfOOL]

did Jeph enhance Faye's assets while she was in the tank top? Do her breasts suddenly gain mass sans bra?

I think they are just gaining mass over time, regardless. Remember when she was first introduced to the strip? She has gone from an A-cup to a D-cup in about 3 years! If this trend continues she is going to start developing back problems pretty soon...

do not impugn the size of her bosom in the early comics, they were no mere A-cups, they have been rather large since the start

[iconoclast]

You forget: Women have a weak spot. If grabbed on the upper arm by a man, they are incapacitated.

I dunno man, having been a practicing martial artist for some 19 years, I know some female practitioners who treat that as their "berserk button". I've seen one practitioner straight up drive a "date" into the ground because he tried to "escort" her away. She damn near broke his wrist IIRC.

I've been reading too much Harry Dresden; practitioner means something completely different to me.

[El_Flesh]

I really liked the drunk episode.  Say what you want about it being better not to talk when drunk; but
truth comes out with alcohol. He paves the way for other dudes. Being the good guy.
Faye gets pissed at hearing the truth. Then when he proposes what he really wants, she punches him.

I've been in this kind of place before. He needs to get rid of Faye. She will only cause him pain, and eventually, will go off with
whomever she thinks she should be with at a time convenient for HER instead of him. He will then never hear from her again.
His life is on hold until then. Dora was right after all. Faye is a parasite on Marten's good nature. It's very hard to turn your back
on someone you want to love so badly, but he has to do it for his own good.

Hope to hell he doesn't wind up in bed with Hannelore or Marigold. THAT would be a huge mistake.

[rje]

I don't know why, but when I read the last two panels of the current comic I blinked and then cackled like a hyena on crack, and QC hasn't made me do that for a long time (usually a chuckle or a grin and laugh but hahaha omg OWLS lololol - I think it was her expression that mostly did it.)
Then I read it again and laughed some more, and now I feel great. Thanks Jeph!

[Nodaisho]

Say what you want about it being better not to talk when drunk; but truth comes out with alcohol.

No it doesn't. In vino veritas is an old saying, but old doesn't mean true.

[johnny5]

omg faye's juicers are huge, serious F cups

[iduguphergrave]

Juicers? That's a new one to me. 

[Boomslang]

Say what you want about it being better not to talk when drunk; but truth comes out with alcohol.

No it doesn't. In vino veritas is an old saying, but old doesn't mean true.

It doesn't mean false, either, and in this case, it's very much a mix. It's very hard to lie convincingly when drunk, and many times people forget to tell the lies they usually tell people. Alcohol impairs the ability to choose carefully what you want to say, and sometimes that means saying the truth when you didn't intend to. However, it also can cause you to speak unclearly or say things in a way that distorts meaning, or think things that you would dismiss when sober because they're stupid, and then say them out loud. However, you're still YOU when you're drunk, no matter how intoxicated you are, and you still have to think the thoughts you're saying out loud.

Listening to a recording of yourself when you're very drunk can be quite enlightening. But you shouldn't take what other people say drunk at face value.

[Superkid11]

However, you're still YOU when you're drunk

Even after a whole bottle of burbon?

[Dr. ROFLPWN]

If I hear this Goddamn in vino veritas thing one more time--

Okay, look, Boomslang kind of has the right idea. Alcohol, being brain poison, makes what cones out of your mouth 89% drunken horseshit, 18% amplified neuroses and fears, 0.9% past bad experiences as justification for fears. The remainder is the actual truth. The "truth" you think is there is your fears and neuroses and all your negativity unfurling like an ugly flower, and it is fed by poison.

This doesn't mean you're not responsible for your actions or speech. But it does mean that you are not on truth serum!

[ecstaticjoy]

Yay, Faye's scar...and is it just me, or are her boobs extra-huge in panel one?

[Carl-E]

OK, three posts showed up and 2 of them were about this topic, but I'm posting anyway...

There's a good bit of truth to what boomslang is saying, but there's also the fact that you're not completely  you when you're very  drunk.  Remember, vino  is wine, and bourbon, tequila, and anything else distilled is a hell  of a lot stronger, getting you much more drunk than wine could in a much shorter amount of time.  Alcohol is a nervous system depressant, literally slowing nerve signals to a crawl and killing some pathways off for good (hence the memory loss).  

When you're that impaired, parts of your personality are completely shut off.  We're not just talking inhibitions, we're talking rational thought processes, emotional reactions, all sorts of things that stop functioning correctly or even completely.  The things you think at this level of inebriation are not your normal thoughts.  This is why so many bad decisions are made drunk, and I'm not just talking tattoos.  People die from decisions made drunk.  

Now, tipsy, buzzed, happy, whatever you call it when you're a little drunk (like after a few glasses of wine), there you'll find more truth.  You're still basically yourself, just with slower reactions, and slower thought processes.  Things aren't shutting down, but the thoughts and emotions that keep some things in check are slowed, and you'll say and do things you normally wouldn't, but that have been in the back of your conscious mind.  You may even gain some access to the subconscious, but that's the slower thought process talking - your mind finally slows to the speed of your mouth, and you can really say what you're thinking while you think it.  Before the checks and balances kick in.  It's a weird feeling, too, because you know  it's happening at the time.  

Then you drink more, because you think it will enhance this more.  And that's when stuff shuts down and trouble starts.  

[/sermonette].  We now return you to your regularly scheduled idiocy.  

[Boomslang]

However, you're still YOU when you're drunk

Even after a whole bottle of burbon?

Alcohol doesn't put someone else inside your head, no matter how much you drink. It can only diminish or enhance what's already in there.

Marten was already in kind of a dickish mood- look at the way he talked to Tai, while dead sober, earlier at the library. In retrospect, it's not that suprising that when he got drunk while in such a funk, he continued in the same vein, just magnified and without working brakes.

[Dr. ROFLPWN]

The issue here is that some fucking people appear to like what Marten said while drunk, and seem to want him to have meant it. I don't know why they would, or even if that is a sincere desire, but that is the impression I get.

To these people: why? Why do you want him to have meant that?

[cuzsis]

Owls??!

The Owls??

Why is it I suddenly have the theme from Twin Peaks running though my head.

"The Owls are not what they seem."   

Ninja'd you!

But what are these space owls that some people speak about Ok. I will google it one of these days.

 Great...I'd managed to forget that quote from TP. Now every time I hear an owl here (and they are fricken *loud*!) I'm going to think about it...!

/lives in one of the Twin Peaks towns. 

[Skewbrow]

Space Owl.

It's been linked twice already today.

Very sorry about that. I do remember that incident involving agent Turing, but didn't remember the 'space' -part. I somehow thought that

• Faye (or Jeph rather) reused the gag on purpose, so that a sobered up Marten will know, and
• the other forumites were referring to something that exists outside QCverse.

 

Mea culpa.

for counter:=1 to 50 do
 writeln('do not post after your bedtimeparticularly not after being irritated at yourself after butchering a number of bridge hands');

[Jedit]

Yay, Faye's scar...

Please, please, save me having to re-read 1700 strips and remind me where that comes from?  I was going to ask, but you seem to know.

[Overkillengine]

The issue here is that some fucking people appear to like what Marten said while drunk, and seem to want him to have meant it. I don't know why they would, or even if that is a sincere desire, but that is the impression I get.

To these people: why? Why do you want him to have meant that?

Because it could mean him finally getting some of the shit he may be (admittedly assumed from an exterior flawed perspective) subconsciously repressing out of his system and finally on the way to not just being a passive doormat (AKA "Nice Guy").

It's either release it this way, or he gets to keep letting himself get shat on until he blows up in a manner that is unrecoverable from.


Edit:

/snipped

Twin Peaks

I'd ask if I would be considered juvenile for connecting this phrase with Faye's, um, assets.....but I already know the answer to that. 

[akronnick]

--Thanks, mom, but no.

--But...

NO!!!

[Carl-E]

Awww, gee, mom.  I appreciate the thought...

I think...

cue a long discussion over the weekend about whether Ms. Reed was being literal... or even serious. 

[Boomslang]

Not exactly digging the new look. It's definitely better drawn, but it looks very different.

At least she's letting Marten decide whether she kills Dora or not, right?

[pwhodges]

Yay, Faye's scar...

Please, please, save me having to re-read 1700 strips and remind me where that comes from?  I was going to ask, but you seem to know.

Read back just a few posts* and find a list of links to where it's come up before and been explained; also the wiki (there's a link in the Welcome thread no); also Jeph's put a list of comics on his twitter.

* OK, quite a lot of posts - here

[Near Lurker]

Wow - the last year has not been kind to her...

[Dr. ROFLPWN]

[oldJewishmom] Sons these days, they're so unappreciative! Look at this boy, she offers to kill for 'im and all he can think of is the trouble he'd be in! And she probably had such a nice slow death planned for Dora too! Oy, and he probably wouldn't call 'er in prison either...[/oldJewishmom]

@Overkillengine: So, the best way for Marten to start taking control of his life and asserting himself more is to insult, slut-shame, and belittle his best friend? Is that what you're saying?

(The idea that Faye is a malignant parasite is so laughable I won't even engage it, so if that's the crux of your thought...welp.)

[Kazukagii]

Okay, Marten's face in panel two made me lose it. Reminds me of when I made a deadpan offer to kill my sister's ex-boyfriend, and she gave me the same horrified look.

Not to mention, isn't that a mother who loves her son!? Willing to spend the rest of her life in prison just to help her son. Now THAT is love.  

[Yellowstone]

Wow - the last year has not been kind to her...

Marten's in his mid 20s, and if we assume that Ms. Vance was in her late 20s when she had Marten, that puts her in her early 50s.  I think any complaints have to be directed at the earlier art style for making her look like she was in her 30s.

[pwhodges]

a passive doormat (AKA "Nice Guy").

This stereotype is being waved around far too much it seems to me; in any case, "Nice Guy" is used in so many rather contradictory ways that it fails even as a stereotype.

I'd ask if I would be considered juvenile for connecting this phrase with Faye's, um, assets.....but I already know the answer to that. 

Then why bring it up, if that's not how you want  to be considered?

[Method of Madness]

Then why bring it up, if that's not how you want  to be considered?

Probably because it's funny.