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I can't go out there! What if they're making out?

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Yes, you should probably stay in here. My Goodness.

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Actually, I was thinking about staying here to...

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Real smooth, Barry White.

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Come on dude, Boy Scout motto!

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Is it cool if we, um, don't have sex yet?

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Butt pimple the size of a dime?

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So much for my mental image of you as a flawless angel.

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Captain Backhair and Sasquatch relatives

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We don't have to watch if it's gonna be too scary for you.

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This is just the opening credits! (It's a spooky font!)

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Total Members Voted: 60

[akronnick]

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

That's the only way a male virgin in his twenties would turn down what she was proposing.

It is possible that he's only had a few serious long term relationship and therefore is awkward in the seduction phase, but when it comes time to get down to business, as it were, he'll have no problem getting the job done. (if you know what I mean.)

[cyro]

I'm inclined to agree with akronnick. If a guy whos not experienced at all suddenly has a girl literally throw herself at him, whilst both of them are intoxicated, well it becomes less a case of "has moral standards" and more a matter of "going for Saint of the Year award."

Though the "being intoxicated" may ruin his chances to start with.

[The Seldom Killer]

I have incontrovertible proof that your theory is utter arse gravy.

[jwhouk]

We know that Angus has been in at least one serious relationship (at least serious enough to not visit CoD during its duration) for at least long enough to know that his ex was apt to belittle people, and it would be unusual for a hetero relationship not to include sex.

...unless the no-sex was the deal breaker in the relationship. She could have said, "No sex until we're married." He could have agreed upon it for a while, but then something else happened and boom, he ditched her. And he could have still remained a virgin.

You can be in a serious relationship without sex, believe it or not. Especially if one or both parties is of a particular religious bent (which, I'm almost certain, the ex-GF-not-named may  have been).

EDIT: Of course, you may be right with your comment about Marigold. But here's the thing with Mar-bear: he never saw her as a romantic/sexual partner. Therefore, it was easier for him to say, "uh, no, Mar, I'd rather be just friends." (Though he was tempted - "Whoa, yeah, boob, awesome.")

It may have also been easier because he walked in on Faye suddenly leaving, without explanation. Then, as Mari came on to him, he realized, "Oh, ####, she thinks I like her and she went and told FAYE, and now I'm never gonna have a shot at Miss Barista Biatch."

Angus as a virgin would work. 

[jwhouk]

On another note: No one noticed that Red Robot from Diesel Sweeties made an appearance in that last panel? (I don't recognize the other 'bot - anyone?)

[iduguphergrave]

I dunno. We already have two virgins in the comic; I doubt Jeph would throw in another one, especially since I'm convinced that Marigold losing her virginity will be a storyline (or at least part of one) in the future. I don't think Jeph would use that kind of plot point twice.

[sluthy]

And don't forget, it's already been done once.

[Border Reiver]

You people have it all wrong, the man was simply confirming that there was a clear path to the bed in the room and that all the dirty underwear was in the hamper - checking to make sure he had his letters was a cover.

[tbones]

Hum, if Barry White was on, they would be way past pillow talk...
 

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

That's the only way a male virgin in his twenties would turn down what she was proposing.

So, only a gay Jesus freak would turn down a druken girl proposal?

[Border Reiver]

Been in that position so I would say, no. 

And before you ask, I don't fit either category.

[Antario]

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

That's the only way a male virgin in his twenties would turn down what she was proposing.

It is possible that he's only had a few serious long term relationship and therefore is awkward in the seduction phase, but when it comes time to get down to business, as it were, he'll have no problem getting the job done. (if you know what I mean.)

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1630  (for reference)

it seemed like angus was a bit more lucid then mar, ofcourse you cant really tell accuratly because jeph uses those 3 bubbles to indicate it and doesnt stray to much from just 3


what im saying is if your not completely carparked and have some inhibitions you can do the honorable thing, since he was lucid enough to think im sure that could have been the case

[tbones]

Yeah, but he still, and i quote: "totally touched my boob, too"

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1692

So, while he still did the right thing, he was a little tempted.

Been in that position so I would say, no.  

And before you ask, I don't fit either category.

That's .... good? Not that it'd be bad if you were a gay Jesus freak... But i think that it's kinda incompatible being both i guess...

[rje]

Hmmm...while I really don't think that Angus is a virgin, it could be possible that he may not have much experience in the sexin' department, or it's been awhile since he's gotten with a lady. I don't think those are either the case, either, but admittedly it could be a really cool development if that were the case - if Faye actually had more experience and it was Angus that was the nervous one. The possibility intrigues me highly. Mainly because I think it could be a real turning point in Faye's growing strength - if you're someone who becomes incredibly vulnerable in intimate situations, being with someone where you actually have more power in the intimate situation could really be beneficial. She could take the lead - as much of it as she wants - and it could give her a higher measure of control over her intimacy issues than she may have had before.

Also her reaction would be intriguing to see, as it could be an insight into how much Angus has gotten under her skin. Would she mock as normal, or would she be more empathetic and understanding? The latter case could point to her really developing feelings for the guy.

I admit I love Angus & Faye's chemistry. I like him as a character a lot, he kind of ties with Marty as a fave and I feel he a fantastic match for Faye. He's never pushed her, but he's never backed down from her either (in that he gives as much as he gets, as far as the wit contests go). I think he's just strong enough for her to be someone to push against, but not so strong that he knocks her over (like Sven did in a way...) Idk I tihnk my favorite thing about him is, contrary to a lot of the cast, he actually has his shit together. He's stable, and I think that's a good thing for her right now.

[jwhouk]

Will Marigold make it to Hannelore's in one piece?

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Are you kidding? This is a COMIC STRIP.    - 26 (32.9%)
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Total Voters: 79

[Antario]

were the case - if Faye actually had more experience and it was Angus that was the nervous one. The possibility intrigues me highly. Mainly because I think it could be a real turning point in Faye's growing strength - if you're someone who becomes incredibly vulnerable in intimate situations, being with someone where you actually have more power in the intimate situation could really be beneficial. She could take the lead - as much of it as she wants - and it could give her a higher measure of control over her intimacy issues than she may have had before.

Also her reaction would be intriguing to see, as it could be an insight into how much Angus has gotten under her skin. Would she mock as normal, or would she be more empathetic and understanding? The latter case could point to her really developing feelings for the guy.
Idk I tihnk my favorite thing about him is, contrary to a lot of the cast, he actually has his shit together. He's stable, and I think that's a good thing for her right now.

read my mind, that in my opinion is where jeph is pushing this toward
but wont that sortof disolve most of faye's excuse to be a leading character when she becomes that much more stable?
well maybe well see marigold (+ dale?) get some screentime if thats the case


argh....so many variables, cannot compute
but thats why i love this comic  

[snubnose]

If Angus were a virgin he would not have turned down Marigold. Period, full stop.

Your logic lacks, well, logic. Like, a lot of it.

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

Still no logic in your logic.

I'm inclined to agree with akronnick. If a guy whos not experienced at all suddenly has a girl literally throw herself at him, whilst both of them are intoxicated, well it becomes less a case of "has moral standards" and more a matter of "going for Saint of the Year award."

Oh god, not another one. He was already in love with Faye at that point !

Well ok, "in love" is a bit strong, more like "highly interested".

Also, some people have things called taste, standards, maturity, ...

[themacnut]

Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking it's not that Angus is a virgin or has less experience than Faye, I'm thinking his nervousness comes from knowing he's dealing with someone with serious issues and he's trying not to trigger those issues (someone else on this thread said something like that. Don't remember who, but I agree with them.) He's more nervous about saying and doing the right thing because he knows if he says or does the wrong thing, Faye may bolt. Faye may have come a long way since her stringing-Marten-along days, but not so far that Angus couldn't say or do something to cause her to totally withdraw. In fact, her own fears may do that just as well.

No wonder Angus is kinda nervous. Wouldn't YOU be?

[TheEvilDog]

Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking it's not that Angus is a virgin or has less experience than Faye, I'm thinking his nervousness comes from knowing he's dealing with someone with serious issues and he's trying not to trigger those issues (someone else on this thread said something like that. Don't remember who, but I agree with them.) He's more nervous about saying and doing the right thing because he knows if he says or does the wrong thing, Faye may bolt. Faye may have come a long way since her stringing-Marten-along days, but not so far that Angus couldn't say or do something to cause her to totally withdraw. In fact, her own fears may do that just as well.

No wonder Angus is kinda nervous. Wouldn't YOU be?

Exactly, I could not have said it better myself.

[MillionDollar Belt Sander]

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

That's the only way a male virgin in his twenties would turn down what she was proposing.

Wow way to generalize there.

Uh I don't know how to counter such an ignorant remark really...  I have quite a few male friends who chose to abstain until later in life.   None of them are "freaks" and none of them are gay.

 

[akronnick]

Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking it's not that Angus is a virgin or has less experience than Faye, I'm thinking his nervousness comes from knowing he's dealing with someone with serious issues and he's trying not to trigger those issues (someone else on this thread said something like that. Don't remember who, but I agree with them.) He's more nervous about saying and doing the right thing because he knows if he says or does the wrong thing, Faye may bolt. Faye may have come a long way since her stringing-Marten-along days, but not so far that Angus couldn't say or do something to cause her to totally withdraw. In fact, her own fears may do that just as well.

No wonder Angus is kinda nervous. Wouldn't YOU be?

That's what I was getting at when I said this:

<snip>

I think his awkwardness stems entirely from the fact that he's trying to woo Faye Whitaker, with full knowledge and consideration of her history.

It's a delicate balance of trying to express interest and attraction, while at the same time not getting defenestrated.

I think people were reacting so strongly to the first part of that post (the <snip>) that they didn't comprehend the resoning behind it.

[azurite]

Shortest distance between two points logic: A virgin isn't going to need to check and see if he has condoms. He's either not going to have them or he will have bought them that afternoon. If he's not sure he has 'em, they were from a previous relationship. I suppose it is possible that he might have bought them over the duration of his previous relationship with the hope they'd get used, but, again, if that were the case he'd remember. Someone who has not yet had sex is going to be hyper-aware of a package of birth control in their living space.

Of course, even if he is a virgin, he could have condoms for use with sex toys. I still think, in that case, he'd not need to check.

[tbones]

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

That's the only way a male virgin in his twenties would turn down what she was proposing.

Wow way to generalize there.

Uh I don't know how to counter such an ignorant remark really...  I have quite a few male friends who chose to abstain until later in life.   None of them are "freaks" and none of them are gay.

Yeah, but there is a difference between choosing to abstain and  wanting to get laid, and not being able to. (which is the group with most people, i want to think)
And the guys in the latter group tend to be more desperate about sex, so i don't think it really is an ignorant remark...

[akronnick]

Wow way to generalize there.

Uh I don't know how to counter such an ignorant remark really...  I have quite a few male friends who chose to abstain until later in life.   None of them are "freaks" and none of them are gay.

 

But he's not choosing to abstain.

He was actively courting a lady he knows has been recently sexually active, and at the point where Marigold makes her move, not very successfully.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that Angus is a virgin, or that people who choose abstinence are flawed or defective.

I'm just saying that there's no explicit indication that he is.

Occum's razor (And I can't believe I'm whipping that out over this) states that the most parsimonious explanation for a phenomenon should be preferred. Now which is more parsimonious: That a Mid-to-late twenty something heterosexual male without a stated religious or cultural reservation who turned down drunken shenanigans from an available and willing close female friend is nervous because he's a virgin, or that he's simply nervous because it's the first time with Faye, who he's flirted with for a really long time and he really likes, but after what happened with Sven and Marten and her father and do I even still have those condoms and please God don't let me fuck this up?

[Mojo]

You people have it all wrong, the man was simply confirming that there was a clear path to the bed in the room and that all the dirty underwear was in the hamper - checking to make sure he had his letters was a cover.

Just what I was thinking.  Even if he WAS checking for the infernal rubber things, he should have come up with an alternative explanation.  "Just making sure the room was decent!"

[Odin]

Mid-to-late 20s =/= super hormone driven teenager, apparently.

[iduguphergrave]

Yeah, but he still, and i quote: "totally touched my boob, too"

That was Marigold retconning the situation to make herself feel better and/or brag to her buddies. As we can see here and from what Angus says right after, Marigold's the one who initiated the boob-touching.

[The Seldom Killer]

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I'm just saying that there's no explicit indication that he is.

Occum's razor (And I can't believe I'm whipping that out over this) states that the most parsimonious explanation for a phenomenon should be preferred. Now which is more parsimonious: That a Mid-to-late twenty something heterosexual male without a stated religious or cultural reservation who turned down drunken shenanigans from an available and willing close female friend is nervous because he's a virgin, or that he's simply nervous because it's the first time with Faye, who he's flirted with for a really long time and he really likes, but after what happened with Sven and Marten and her father and do I even still have those condoms and please God don't let me fuck this up?

Nor is there an explicit indication that he isn't.

Also it's a poor use of Occam's razor to offer only a binary proposition. To steal from Neal Stephenson, "Don't believe in something simply because you want it to be true" - Diax's Rake.

[pwhodges]

Also, using Occam's razor when the alternatives offered are in any case open to interpretation or doubt is probably dubious.

Mid-to-late 20s =/= super hormone driven teenager, apparently.

This is generally true, though I have known plenty of teenagers who were not slaves to their hormones, and a few much older people who were.  So it's best to be careful with generalisations.

In many parts of society religion has no bearing on this either - which I only mention so that no-one else need bring it up again, please.

[StevenC]

Wow way to generalize there.

Uh I don't know how to counter such an ignorant remark really...  I have quite a few male friends who chose to abstain until later in life.   None of them are "freaks" and none of them are gay.

 

But he's not choosing to abstain.

He was actively courting a lady he knows has been recently sexually active, and at the point where Marigold makes her move, not very successfully.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that Angus is a virgin, or that people who choose abstinence are flawed or defective.

I'm just saying that there's no explicit indication that he is.

Occum's razor (And I can't believe I'm whipping that out over this) states that the most parsimonious explanation for a phenomenon should be preferred. Now which is more parsimonious: That a Mid-to-late twenty something heterosexual male without a stated religious or cultural reservation who turned down drunken shenanigans from an available and willing close female friend is nervous because he's a virgin, or that he's simply nervous because it's the first time with Faye, who he's flirted with for a really long time and he really likes, but after what happened with Sven and Marten and her father and do I even still have those condoms and please God don't let me fuck this up?

He was choosing to abstain. At least with anyone who wasn't the one he's interested in. It's called... common sense I believe? If you are VERY interested in a certain person you don't go around having sex with other people.

[Border Reiver]

In many parts of society religion has no bearing on this either - which I only mention so that no-one else need bring it up again, please.

Amen brother, testify.

[Skewbrow]

After reading what others have said it does sound more likely that Angus is simply (and understandably) very nervous. Hopefully it goes well for both Faye and Angus.

But what did they do make Momo blush earlier? They were still (mostly) clothed (unless the underwear eating shrub struck again). Apparently she hasn't been hanging around with Pintsize that much lately? But even so? She can shoot eels out of her... Ok. So she's quite comfortable with anything you can see in manga/anime, but intimacy between real people is a novel experience?

[StevenC]

Their make-outs were so hot, it actually created heat which made the metal in her face glow red-hot.

[Melauren]

Shortest distance between two points logic: A virgin isn't going to need to check and see if he has condoms. He's either not going to have them or he will have bought them that afternoon. If he's not sure he has 'em, they were from a previous relationship. I suppose it is possible that he might have bought them over the duration of his previous relationship with the hope they'd get used, but, again, if that were the case he'd remember. Someone who has not yet had sex is going to be hyper-aware of a package of birth control in their living space.

Unless he has to check whether they've expired

(Team probs-not-a-virgin)

[DSL]

I'm gonna go with: Angus is a decent guy who knows, likes and gives a shit about Faye and, yes, desperately does not want to fuck this up. He probably will, sure, but how he handles that is part of sitting the exam.

[Border Reiver]

JW - love the list, so many potential choices - hiding the porn stash/shrine to all things Faye (which could be really creepy if Angus combined the two with a love of sculpture...) seem to be popular and possibly relevant, but there were so many relevant choices.

[Odin]

Shortest distance between two points logic: A virgin isn't going to need to check and see if he has condoms. He's either not going to have them or he will have bought them that afternoon. If he's not sure he has 'em, they were from a previous relationship. I suppose it is possible that he might have bought them over the duration of his previous relationship with the hope they'd get used, but, again, if that were the case he'd remember. Someone who has not yet had sex is going to be hyper-aware of a package of birth control in their living space.

Unless he has to check whether they've expired

(Team probs-not-a-virgin)

Yeah, you'd be surprised how many people don't know there are expiration dates on condoms.

[Murphoid]

When I take my son to his next cub scout meeting a subsequently break into laughter, you'll know your to blame for all the weird looks I get.

[Border Reiver]

Got one in Scouts, another in Cubs and a third in Beavers - I expect hilarity three nights a week from this strip.

[ZERO]

Because he's not a Jesus freak and he's not gay.

That's the only way a male virgin in his twenties would turn down what she was proposing.

I was a virgin until the ripe old age of 25, because I didn't want to just throw it away. I found someone worth losing it to. And even though we aren't together anymore, I have never regretted it.

I'm agnostic and I am most certainly not gay.

Just sayin'.

[Murphoid]

This is a good example of why generalizations don't work.

[Kugai]

Actually, I think he was making sure the Faye Print Sheets wern't on his bed.

    

[Murphoid]

Actually, I think he was making sure the Faye Print Sheets wern't on his bed.

    

I had assumed he was doing a 10 second tidy.  Shove everything in the closet. Pull sheets straight, light incense. 

[Mr_Rose]

Actually, I think he was making sure the Faye Print Sheets wern't on his bed.

    

Yes. Having a body pillow of your SO made up without their knowledge or consent is a deal-breaker. Especially if they aren't technically your SO yet.
Must remember that next time.

[Kugai]

Actually, I think he was making sure the Faye Print Sheets wern't on his bed.

    

Yes. Having a body pillow of your SO made up without their knowledge or consent is a deal-breaker. Especially if they aren't technically your SO yet.
Must remember that next time.

 

[Watched Pot]

I suppose anything is possible on the question of Angus's virginity, but I just hope no one out there (male or female) in their late teens/early twenties/any age who happens to still be a virgin reads these comments and feels that there is something wrong with them. Sex is a personal thing. Whatever your choices may be, just make sure they're your choices and you will be fine. And, of course, be safe about it if/when it happens.

[Murphoid]

I suppose anything is possible on the question of Angus's virginity, but I just hope no one out there (male or female) in their late teens/early twenties/any age who happens to still be a virgin reads these comments and feels that there is something wrong with them. Sex is a personal thing. Whatever your choices may be, just make sure they're your choices and you will be fine. And, of course, be safe about it if/when it happens.

I cheer for those who have made competent non rushed non pressured decisions about their sex life.  Truth be told NO is, of course, the most socially responsible, moral decision there is.  They would be examples to us all, To thine own self be true.

[CompSarge]

Got one in Scouts, another in Cubs and a third in Beavers - I expect hilarity three nights a week from this strip.

hurr hurr...Beavers...

[ysth]

Also I'm highly curious how you would find out a man is a virgin - unless the guy tells you - and even then he could lie about it.

You check if he can see the enchanted city of Vanorva.

[Schmorgluck]

Unless he has to check whether they've expired

(Team probs-not-a-virgin)

Yeah, you'd be surprised how many people don't know there are expiration dates on condoms.

This comic made me check where I put the box of condoms I have bought a few years ago in a fit of crazy optimism. I didn't find it, but it's no biggie, for I checked the expiration date on the pair I kept in my wallet and they are out of date by several months anyway...

I'm vaguely considering buying a new box, but I would feel like I'm fooling myself. Why would I go for such expenses in prevision of something I don't believe can happen anymore? 

[Murphoid]

I would agree that not having sex is socially responsible, but not necessarily the moral choice. There are, of course, many situations where having sex is moral issue, such as when a person is drunk, or under age, etc. In general, however, I would argue that sex is not a morality issue if the two people participating are both adults of sound mind. It certainly may be a religious issue, but I would argue that religion and morality are mutually exclusive concepts.

Suffice it to say I disagree slightly on the moral reasoning, but this is not the place for a debate of mores.