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WCDT: Independence Day Week (4 - 8 July, 1961-1965)
Schmorgluck:
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 05 Jul 2011, 08:26 ---In all honesty, no woman with any self respect would stay in a relationship with Marten for very long anyway, simply because he is incapable of doing anything on his own. In short: Marten isn't even really an adult, he's an overgrown boy that needs a mother-figure to tell him what to do every minute of every day.
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True that. For example, he was unable to go and get a haircut without refering to Dora first.
Oh, wait...
TheEvilDog:
I'm waiting for the comic where Marten and Jim meet.
I can just see it, Marten walks in, just as Jim is leaving having completed the baking for C.o.D. and about to deliver it. Padma says "Hey Marten." Jim looks up, with a couple of beat panels before saying "You had one lucky escape there kid." Jim leaves, with Marten looks a little perplexed.
Of course, now that I've said it, it won't happen now. :laugh:
Monkey Says Yes:
Man, I feel sad now. Poor Dora. Seems like she's drifting into the friends zone with Jim there.
Mightyanvil:
Hmm, I may be a bit on the bitter side.
For all it is a comic, I would like to see Dora experience some consequences for her actions.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: Mightyanvil on 05 Jul 2011, 08:36 ---Yes, but crazy person is still crazy.
Smoke and mirrors might show Marten's issues. But Dora is still a nutjob. What a lot of people are labeling passive here is just plain being nice and perhaps putting someone else's wants ahead of your own. Something you need to do occasionally to make a relationship work.
I am not saying all of Marten's behavior is excusable, he is a bit passive on some things. But it isn't exactly like he is a giant ball of passivity and nothing else. He is a genuinely nice guy, he cares for Dora, loves(d) her, none of the fights they have are initiated by him and he doesn't really do anything wrong. Might be a bit of a blanket statement. But blaming the relationship not working due to Marten, ludicrous. Plus, you guys lay on the passive thing too much, when Dora goes nuts over something and marten states "fuck this, I am leaving" or something to that extent, that is NOT being passive. Passive would just give up and say, yes ma'am.
100% of the fault is Dora's emoness. If she grows up a little, she might be able to have a real relationship, something she (admittedly) has never had.
Long story short:
Dora is whack.
Nice does not equate to passive.
Also, "In all honesty, no woman with any self respect would stay in a relationship with Marten for very long anyway, simply because he is incapable of doing anything on his own. In short: Marten isn't even really an adult, he's an overgrown boy that needs a mother-figure to tell him what to do every minute of every day."
I think you need to go back and read the comic again. Marten is pretty fleshed out, he has mommy issues, but he does most things on his own.
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I think you need to read the series of articles starting here and realize that being a "Nice Guy" is pretty much the worst possible thing a guy can be and expect women to treat him with any kind of respect.
Edited to fix the link to the correct page.
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