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Happy Birthday from Hugging Hannelore!

13 (28.3%)

Lt. Potter disrupts the D'awwwwww

6 (13%)

"That's the first time you've willingly hugged me since you were a baby!"

3 (6.5%)

A little physical contact...

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Schtup MY daughter, eh?

3 (6.5%)

Observatory is up at the top of the spindle... in zero-g...

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"Wuh... wait." KISSSS HURRRRLLL Agh!

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ANGUS DID YOU LEAVE THE TOILET SEAT UP?

3 (6.5%)

That's the most stereotypical, sitcom thing you could possibly...

0 (0%)

...You fell in? I fell in.

1 (2.2%)

You better not be making fun of me.

1 (2.2%)

Francis told me you... he told me what happened. (I'm SUCH AN IDIOT)

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Someday, everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do.

10 (21.7%)

...Will there be cake?

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Total Members Voted: 43

[akronnick]

Every woman looks elegant in an LBD.

But yes, she does.

[WAYF]

Someday, everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do.

Wow. She totally nailed it.

[pendrake]

For comic #2150...

1. Poor Marigold, but Jeph did say it probably would end in tears.  Tears and vomit, apparrently.

2. Panel #6 makes me wonder...  Is Hannelore saying such things to Marigold simply for Marigold...?  Or perhaps also projecting (consciously or subconsciously) for herself as well?  (or perhaps I am projecting my own long-work & late-hour fatigue )

3. Hopefully this is not the end of Francis York & Marigold Farmer.

4. It looks like we are about done with QC in Space, just a denouement phase and then return-trip to Earth.  Which means "QC in Space, Week Ten(!?!)."  Not that I am complaining of course, I have greatly enjoyed this story-arc.

[J]

somehow this strikes me as the saddest qc strip in recent memory.

I find these rants funny, because it's just as hard for the ladies to check and put the seat down when the go to the washroom as it is for men to simply put it down when they're done.

On the other hand, if you don't check the toilet before you sit down it's just a matter of time before you fall in. So peoples should always look.

see, it's not about the amount of effort involved, people just don't like getting blamed for other people's carelessness. especially for something as basic as a failure to looking where you plan to put your ass before you put it there.

[TheBiscuit]

Oh, Marigold. 

He's waiting outside. He still wants to talk to you. He was a little taken aback but he hasn't given up yet.

You apparently have.

[Deadlywonky]

Having been away most of the week I'm amazed that this collection of nerds, otherwise known as a 'forum', missed Akima's Hitchhikers quip yesterday. Where are your towels?!

[techkid]

Oh, Marigold. 

He's waiting outside. He still wants to talk to you. He was a little taken aback but he hasn't given up yet.

You apparently have.

Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.

[westrim]

Is it a buttercream cake? I love buttercream.

[themacnut]

Hannelore's attempts to cheer up Marigold were very d'awww-worthy, but I think it'll be a long while before Marigold tries makeouts with anyone again. Y'know this is a big part of the reason they get along so well right? They each have issues that prevent them from having the intimate romantic relationships they want. Their issues make them both social misfits, Mari a bit more than Hanners IMO.

[Border Reiver]

I'm beginning to think Hanners' name is really spelled Hannelawww. And doesn't she look elegant in that LBD?

Truth

[pwhodges]

Having been away most of the week I'm amazed that this collection of nerds, otherwise known as a 'forum', missed Akima's Hitchhikers quip yesterday. Where are your towels?!

Who says we missed it?  We're not all hairdressers!

A little additional background: is this true? (A: No, obviously not!)

[Milesb]

I thought Hanner's "Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it'll be so wonderful you won't know what to do." was a nice thing to say, but I also think her saying it was probably at least slightly inspired by the fact that the quote effectively covers Hanner's experiences as well... Meeting Marten (and through that, the rest of the QC cast) has been really good for Hanners, and she's had moments where she's clearly been swamped by it - but she's persevered.

I think that seems to be the difference between Marigold and Hannelore - Marigold does give up a bit easily and she feels sorry for herself more readily than Hanners seems to.

[jwhouk]

I want to make some sort of joke that we discover Francis' middle name is Eli, and when Hannelore gets Marigold to come out to get cake, she finds out that it was just a ruse to come out to see Francis, who offers her ice cream, not cake.

...Thing is, I can't get the joke to the "Cake is Eli" punchline.

[lepetitfromage]

I keep the whole thing lidded, mainly because the cats will drink out of it and then unerringly stick their wet paws on my face in the morning.

D'oh! Cat....another reason I keep the lid down. We use those cleaner tabs that make your toilet water blue and the last thing I want is a cat poisoned by my toilet.

Cats don't use their paws to drink.

The little stinker is just fuckin' with you.

Just Sayin'

My cat uses her paws to drink, but she's a weirdo. She also scoots her food out of the bowl, on to the floor and plays hockey with it before she decides it's edible. Sometimes, she leaves it in the middle of the floor because she's a jerk.


Also- D'awwwwwwwwww. Hanners is really making great strides! I hope that her improvements rub off on Mari. She's not hopeless, but she will be if she convinces herself otherwise. I hope we see more of Francis! (He just has to keep her out of Zero-G)

[Kenyahp]

techkid- It's Dale, yo.

So far, totally agreeing with those projecting-hopes-of-her-own-life-also-going-well onto Marigold with this strip.

Man, these poor girls, though. Neither of them are too good with the boy thing (honestly, I'm not, either, but I didn't throw up on what was basically my first kiss (I know the Angus thing, I choose not to count it)), one is shy because she only has the internet for social examples, the other is shy because shes terrified of everything. And, yet, somehow they're helping each other with what is kickass advice. So. Maybe not "poor girls" but something close.

[Skewbrow]

Having been away most of the week I'm amazed that this collection of nerds, otherwise known as a 'forum', missed Akima's Hitchhikers quip yesterday. Where are your towels?!

Who says we missed it?  We're not all hairdressers!

I didn't miss it either. I was just... ehh... having a bath? Or unwilling to bite a bait. Your call.

[TinPenguin]

She's not hopeless, but she will be if she convinces herself otherwise.

This is so very true for many people I know. Well, it's true for everybody to some extent, I think.

[Black Sword]

What a positive note to end the week on! It even seems that the cake is not a lie, which is even better.

I guess Jeph wanted *puts sunglasses on* to bring us down to earth.

Affirmative

 

[Schmorgluck]

I don't remember her having one period, but then again, she might have never been shown in profile while talking.

You know, you really ought to have put a comma between "one" and "period". I was skimming the thread, and the first part of your sentence caused me some confusion.

[Kenyahp]

I don't remember her having one period, but then again, she might have never been shown in profile while talking.

You know, you really ought to have put a comma between "one" and "period". I was skimming the thread, and the first part of your sentence caused me some confusion.

Thought the same thing but didn't want to bring it up. I thought that I was just dirty minded or something.

[Skewbrow]

Dirty minded? On this forum? Heaven forbid!

Re: toilet lid positioning. As they say, "Any man winning an argument with his SO has only himself to blame."

Angus did really well. Concentrating on Faye's feelings, and totally ignoring the question of who left it up. If only I could always...

Marigold, go get some cake!

[Is it cold in here?]

Marten would just have folded. Angus is better for Faye than Marten would have been.

[sitnspin]

"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

This happened  to me.   


Then she died.


Still... it WAS wonderful.

[idontunderstand]

Hannelore sounds uncharacteristically mature in this one. Also I think it might be a bit too early for her to give up, even after trying to subject Francis to puke-kisses. Come on Marigold, get out there, try again. Do it. Do it do it do it.

[vettechinohio]

"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

This happened to me.   


Then she died.


Still... it WAS wonderful.

I'm sad for you ): That she died, of course, not that you got to experience the relationship. I'm glad it was wonderful while you had it.  It reminds me of a bit from one of my favorite movies: "No man, nor anything in this world preserves their life forever. But only to men is it given to know that we must die, and that is a precious gift. This life, that is both our torment and our treasure, was never meant to endure for eternity. Life is a wave on the sea."

I've always thought that; that the knowledge of our own mortality is a gift, and what makes life precious. And that giving life to someone else is the only way we can live forever. I don't necessarily mean having children, but having a significant other or even a very close friend, someone that has come alive as a result of knowing you, is giving life to someone. That is something that will never disappear. It becomes part of both of you. And it sounds like you had that.

And for that, I'm so very, very happy for you (:

[J]

I think that seems to be the difference between Marigold and Hannelore - Marigold does give up a bit easily and she feels sorry for herself more readily than Hanners seems to.

well that's it right there. the thing is that hannelore is really a lot tougher than she seems; she's got some intense, arguably crippling mental problems, and yet she's still standing. she makes progress, deals with setbacks, and occasionally tucks her head down and powers through her issues by brute force of will. the lady's a fighter, & through it all she remains cheerful.

on the other hand, marigold's problems are all ones that just about everyone has had at various points in their lives, and she is almost completely ruled by them. as soon as things don't go her way, she just gives up and crumples into a heap of self-pity.

arguably the strongest character in the strip is bffs with arguably the weakest.

[Kenyahp]

Well, thats the point, isn't it? Jeph has created characters that fit real life personalities. They are larger than life, but at the same time we can all relate. We've all been friends with someone the complete opposite of us. Hell, my best friend and I are completely different and I couldn't live without her. And, I think they are weak and strong in different ways, really. Perhaps Hannelore shows her strength of will more, but Marigold is also working hard at changing herself. She is more sociable, more open, and is trying to get out of her shell.

I think Marigold IS the person with the problems that everyone has had for a reason. We can more easily relate and feel sympathy to someone like Marigold. She has crippling self esteem NOT because of mental issues such as Hanners but because of basing her outside world experience on what the internet and gaming has taught her they should be. You spend your whole life on the internet, its harder to walk outside and have a conversation and laugh with people because you always think "Well, when are they going to insult me or be mean or go away for a game".

Perhaps Hannelore has stronger things to overcome because of her mental illness. But, Marigold still has issues that do hurt her to overcome and shes doing it in a way that we can relate to: Quietly, gradually, and with bumps along the way. I think all the characters are overcoming things in their own way instead of just wallowing and not admitting problems. Thats strength to me.

Dammit, I keep ranting.

[TheBiscuit]

Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.

She may not know how to handle it, but she's always seemed eager enough. The guy is still interested, she's being very foolish. Mind you, in any sane universe she'd plenty of options. She's a female gamer. That's a position of power in the dating world.

[J]

Well, thats the point, isn't it? Jeph has created characters that fit real life personalities. They are larger than life, but at the same time we can all relate. We've all been friends with someone the complete opposite of us. Hell, my best friend and I are completely different and I couldn't live without her. And, I think they are weak and strong in different ways, really. Perhaps Hannelore shows her strength of will more, but Marigold is also working hard at changing herself. She is more sociable, more open, and is trying to get out of her shell.

I think Marigold IS the person with the problems that everyone has had for a reason. We can more easily relate and feel sympathy to someone like Marigold. She has crippling self esteem NOT because of mental issues such as Hanners but because of basing her outside world experience on what the internet and gaming has taught her they should be. You spend your whole life on the internet, its harder to walk outside and have a conversation and laugh with people because you always think "Well, when are they going to insult me or be mean or go away for a game".

Perhaps Hannelore has stronger things to overcome because of her mental illness. But, Marigold still has issues that do hurt her to overcome and shes doing it in a way that we can relate to: Quietly, gradually, and with bumps along the way. I think all the characters are overcoming things in their own way instead of just wallowing and not admitting problems. Thats strength to me.

Dammit, I keep ranting.

hard habit to break aint it?

i get what you're saying for the most part and i don't really disagree, but i just don't sympathize with marigold very much. not because of the mundane nature of her problems, but rather because she never seems to do anything about them. the (not insignificant) progress she's made has all been due to someone else pushing her, rather than her own initiative.

if someone's working to overcome their problems, i'm in their corner all the way. doesn't matter how big the problem is, or even whether they succeed or fail. but if they don't want it enough to fight for it, then i've just got no time for them.

[Carl-E]

There comes a point in time where, after trying to help someone who's unwilling to change for the umtieth time, one just gives up. 

Hanners hasn't given up yet, and Marigold has  been making changes in her life, but glacial progress can be as infuriating as no progress at all. 




So basically, this is a testament to Hanner's friendship, that she's still willing to drag Mari out of her bed of woe (again) and get her out of the self-pity cycle and uinto the real world, a place she's having as much (if not more) trouble conquering. 

I think she's my hero...

[iduguphergrave]

Actually I can see Marigold progress in this comic. She didn't actively argue with Hanners when she said "You're not an idiot." "Meh" might be a short step up, but she's thinking. And it looks like she's also allowing herself to be cheered up. Some people change slowly; remember Mar-bear pretty much started out from the bottom.

[Kenyahp]

Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.

She may not know how to handle it, but she's always seemed eager enough. The guy is still interested, she's being very foolish. Mind you, in any sane universe she'd plenty of options. She's a female gamer. That's a position of power in the dating world.

Since when? Marigold also has that shes a complete cutey. If all it took to get a boyfriend was being a gamer girl and having a tiny bit of confidence, I'd be crawling in guys right now. Unfortunately, you gotta be hot, too.
Yes, that is bitterness you see. I get sick of guys complaining about being friendzoned when the girls they want are way attractive and the girls they don't want are perfect personalities for them but not super hot. Not that you were complaining or even said anything about that. I'm just saying, gamer girls have just as much trouble as normal girls.

On a side note...I think the big thing is that Marigold didn't have any support to get out there to begin with. She does computer stuff for a living AND a hobby. She lives in an apartment with one other person who's social circle wasn't very large, either, if the fact that hes introduced no friends is any indication. I think Hanners and her circle were like a catalyst to her change-enzyme. Shes just a slow enzyme is all. Hannelore, on the other hand, was...some super combustible and long-burning chemical. I don't know. I ran outta analogy. And, its not like Hanners hasn't had help, either. Yes, she left on her own, but she kept her apartment to her OCD standards and her OCD was her job. Similar to Marigold keeping to her internet standards and her internet was her job. Different problems, different severity, so the change will come differently and in different amounts.

Kinda like if you filled a barrel with water and a bucket with water. They're both full. Take half away and they've both had a lot taken from them, but the barrel is more noticeable, simply because there was more amounts of water. Water being problems.

[Milesb]

Kenyahp, I disagree with a kind of central point in what you're saying (if I'm reading it correctly) - It kind of reads to me like you're saying Marigold hasn't had any support and that's why she's like that? Because that would typify the difference - Hanners is taking responsibility for her condition, where as Marigold isn't.

Support or not, the decision to act and to improve yourself is one you make on your own and if you don't decide to do that then no amount of outside help will make any lasting improvement. I don't see a huge amount of Marigold development here to be honest. She's not dealing with her screw up, getting back up and doing something, she's blaming herself and wallowing in self pity, even in the face of Hanners, a woman with a bunch of issues herself who gets up every day and tries to better herself. If I was Hannerelore I'd get a bit pissed with Marigold's attitude.

She's not even replying to her properly. "Meh" ? "No. Wanna Sleep." ? What kind of way is that to speak to someone who's clearly trying to help you?

[Kenyahp]

Kenyahp, I disagree with a kind of central point in what you're saying (if I'm reading it correctly) - It kind of reads to me like you're saying Marigold hasn't had any support and that's why she's like that? Because that would typify the difference - Hanners is taking responsibility for her condition, where as Marigold isn't.

Support or not, the decision to act and to improve yourself is one you make on your own and if you don't decide to do that then no amount of outside help will make any lasting improvement. I don't see a huge amount of Marigold development here to be honest. She's not dealing with her screw up, getting back up and doing something, she's blaming herself and wallowing in self pity, even in the face of Hanners, a woman with a bunch of issues herself who gets up every day and tries to better herself. If I was Hannerelore I'd get a bit pissed with Marigold's attitude.

She's not even replying to her properly. "Meh" ? "No. Wanna Sleep." ? What kind of way is that to speak to someone who's clearly trying to help you?

No no, I was saying that until Hannelore came around no one was really around to tell her to get off her ass and hang out in the real world. Angus certainly didn't. Thats what I was going for. Hanners was a wreck but had Station and everyone on station to support her. Even if they weren't good at it.

I'm not saying Hannelore isn't super strong. I'm just saying that she has different problems. Hannelore is an adult and is acting like one. Maybe I understand Marigold's reactions because they are the reactions of a teenager. Self pity is what teens do best. And, if you live in the internet world, you're perpetually a teenager. I know this from experience. On the internet, playing wow, you don't have to grow up and out of your weird low-self-esteem-narcissism phase. Marigold doesn't have the social graces that allow her to be self confident and stand up from her mistakes. I think we are denying the fact that, up until Marten and friends, Hannelore really wasn't improving much beyond the fact that she had her own apartment. She developed vices such as smoking and drinking to cope rather than how she does it now. Hannelore has been around longer, also, than Marigold. If you search the beginning strips of her, you actually see change only coming on gradually. The major shift of touch took a really long time. And, Marbear has changed. Her interactions prove it. The fact that she accepted the invitation to come aboard in the first place, to me, speaks volumes. Hanners couldn't force her to go if she didn't want to. And, I think, thats the monumental change there. Accepting invitations for things that no one could force you to go to, such as to the bar, to a party, and to the space station. Sociophobia is a hard thing, in itself, to work around.

But, then again, I would agree that responses do come off as rude. But, they are best friends. At least she wasn't calling herself fat and ugly during it, too. Yelling at someone who can't help being sad and embarrassed doesn't help, so Hanners wasn't going to do it.

...dammit, I rant way too much. (I'm sorry!!!)

[Bastion]

Kenyahp, I disagree with a kind of central point in what you're saying (if I'm reading it correctly) - It kind of reads to me like you're saying Marigold hasn't had any support and that's why she's like that? Because that would typify the difference - Hanners is taking responsibility for her condition, where as Marigold isn't.

Support or not, the decision to act and to improve yourself is one you make on your own and if you don't decide to do that then no amount of outside help will make any lasting improvement. I don't see a huge amount of Marigold development here to be honest. She's not dealing with her screw up, getting back up and doing something, she's blaming herself and wallowing in self pity, even in the face of Hanners, a woman with a bunch of issues herself who gets up every day and tries to better herself. If I was Hannerelore I'd get a bit pissed with Marigold's attitude.

She's not even replying to her properly. "Meh" ? "No. Wanna Sleep." ? What kind of way is that to speak to someone who's clearly trying to help you?

You have to keep in mind that Marigold is unused to any kind of conflict in her life. Yes, she may be hiding right now, but once she gets to a point where she is more experienced in making mistakes and having to face up to them, she will be more confident in herself and the way she carries herself around other people. I used to be the same exact way, especially around guys.  The key here is that Marigold needs to take baby steps. This was, I would say, a rather large step for her today as she isn't used to guys being attracted to her or being asked out.  It almost seems to have shocked her into regressing slightly.

You can say you actively choose to change yourself, but for someone as awkward as Marigold, it is a very slow process. Hanners began improving as a person long before Marigold did so she has a step up on her and is probably helping because she feels a sort of kinship with what Marigold is going through right now. Marbear will get her stuff sorted out, but it's going to be slow in coming, unlike Hanners. It seemed like after she met Marten and his gang of friends she started taking leaps and bounds towards improving herself. It's different for everybody the rate at which you improve and become comfortable in your own skin.

[Kenyahp]

Plus, Hannelore will put up with Marigold's crap for any chance of there being a reasonable amount of babies in the future.

(Also, I agree completely, Bastion. Though, I imagine you have to have been awkward like Marigold to understand Marigold. Because I'm totally awkward.)

[Bastion]

Plus, Hannelore will put up with Marigold's crap for any chance of there being a reasonable amount of babies in the future.

(Also, I agree completely, Bastion. Though, I imagine you have to have been awkward like Marigold to understand Marigold. Because I'm totally awkward.)

It's like we're a hivemind of awkwardness or something. I personally am surprised that I do not accidentally set things on fire on a more regular basis.

[Kugai]

Dawwwwwww


Hanners - OCD Superfriend

[Kenyahp]

Haha. From now on, if I see someone awkward in public, I'm going to follow them chanting "One of us! One of us! One of us!" then trip into them or something equally awkward. and then set their face on fire. Because I DO set things on fire on a regular basis.

[Kugai]

I expect  to see on your next Post that the FBI has visited you.

[Is it cold in here?]

Hannelore wants others to be well so she can use them as examples for herself.

Plus, she's compassionate.

[pwhodges]

I note that in that strip, Faye puts her arm round Hanners without getting the reaction Marten did later.

[iduguphergrave]

It might've helped that Faye is female. I remember a strip way back where Dora had her arm around her at one point too, but it's only until recently that she's brought herself to be able to touch a guy (the hug she gave Sven on their "date.")

[Method of Madness]

Hannelore wants others to be well so she can use them as examples for herself.

"We're all puppets, [Hanners]. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings."

[Kenyahp]

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=804 (URL fixed by moderator)
How do I insert a URL with words that you can click to take you there?! I'm so bad at this.

Anyways. I would agree with the lady theory. Because they are ladies and she is a lady, shes probably more comfortable with it. Maybe shes also caught less off guard and its not a full-body thing.


Edit: Also, I got a visit by the FBI. But, I just stared at them for a few minutes until they felt so weird they had to leave.

Edit2: Also also, just read the next comic in that arc. She falls asleep because shes medicated. Shes probably also medicated during the Faye one. That was her stay-up-for-days-at-a-time portion of the comic, I think, wasn't it? So, she may just not have noticed.

[Redball]

The folks here who see Marigold slowly becoming socialized are a lot more convincing. I wonder what Jeph will do with the story Monday. Maybe Marigold will come out of her bunk for cake and Hoopskootch (that was my wife's name for someone whose name she'd forgotten).

[Magdalena]

Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.

She may not know how to handle it, but she's always seemed eager enough. The guy is still interested, she's being very foolish. Mind you, in any sane universe she'd plenty of options. She's a female gamer. That's a position of power in the dating world.

Since when? Marigold also has that shes a complete cutey. If all it took to get a boyfriend was being a gamer girl and having a tiny bit of confidence, I'd be crawling in guys right now. Unfortunately, you gotta be hot, too.

I kind of have to agree what's being said here. Us "non-attractive gamer chicks" know when there's a good gamer chick who's ALSO good looking in room that we're kinda pwned. I know that a lot of guys would sit up and say "Don't be silly, we'd give you all an equal chance to date us!" And that's all very true, I eventually got to get married to a fantastic guy (and he's REALLY good looking) but he also is extremely nerdy himself. But in all honesty it's a matter of being patient and finding the right person who loves you for being nerdy AND thinks you are cute/pretty.

Yes, that is bitterness you see. I get sick of guys complaining about being friendzoned when the girls they want are way attractive and the girls they don't want are perfect personalities for them but not super hot.

I'll have to agree somewhat here - just look at the show "The Big Bang Theory" - Leonard is totally wolf pup in love with Penny and wants her to have his babies - he even SAYS so in the very first episode. And I'll agree that getting "friendzoned" purely for the fact that a non-attractive gamer chick is "one of the guys" as opposed to a girl like "Riley" from the webiseries "The Guild" - admit it - given the choice between someone like Clara and Riley, who will you pick? Also, I know Codex is the "good guy" in "The Guild" but she's pretty too, and "ackwardly cute" thus making the un-attractive gamer girls even more depressed because if you aren't "ackwardly cute" or "a pretty gamer" then you are just ...kinda... "one of the guys."

[pwhodges]

How do I insert a URL with words that you can click to take you there?!

See here
You can follow that link for instructions, or just quote this post to see what's there.

[Kenyahp]

Thanks, pwhodges. I knew I had seen it somewhere but couldn't remember if it was somewhere I had posted or if it was somewhere I had lurked. Thanks so much!

So, lets try again. This is the comic aforementioned.

Magdalena- I hate that "one of the guys" bullshit. So much. I've never had it pulled on me, either, and I still hate it. So many of my friends have that happen to them. Luckily, I guess I'm just so unattractive that guys don't even bother saying "one of the guys" and just leave it at "Well. I dont feel that way."

God, maybe thats why I have such sympathy for Marigold. Shes trying her best to get some and I'm all stuck here on bitter avenue. Hahaha.

[jwhouk]

arguably the strongest character in the strip is bffs with arguably the weakest.

Ah... but which one is which?