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Blue Kitty:
Just got back, it was so good.  I love how great all the new characters are, especially Poe and BB8.

(click to show/hide)Sadly Han Solo being Kylo Ren's dad and then being killed by him was spoiled when I went over a spoiler text last night. I still shed a single, manly tear when it happened/Chewie howled out in anger and sadness. BUT I WANT MORE CAPTAIN PHASMA DAMNIT

They did set up an intriguing villain with Supreme Leader Snoke. At first I thought he was a giant until we learned it was all a hologram. I mean Emperor Palpatine did a similar thing but the thought hadn't crossed my mind. We know next to nothing about him, his whole look was an utmost secret until the films release, but he's heavily scarred already, has some deep hatred for the Jedi, and seems to be some alien race we've never really seen before.

Gladstone:
I thought they did a great job with BB-8.  I was worried from the trailers that the roly-poly look with the exaggerated astromech features (aww, lookit that big round eye! He's like a puppy!) would make him the next Jar-Jar, but they added just the right amount of comedy to his performance to make him a fun character.  (click to show/hide)I give BB-8 a big thumbs-up.  Anyone have a gif of that yet?

de_la_Nae:
Very interesting, reading this thread after watching the movie.

Now I stayed away from everything to do with this shit, because I'm that sort of person. Also interesting seeing the trailers for the first time.

(click to show/hide)Called the inevitable mentor character (whether it would be Han or Luke) dying, so when they set up Han... well. Still, fairly well done, not they're fault I'm story-obsessed.

I enjoyed many of the (sometimes subtle) callbacks to old movies, but Jesus, there's a lot of them.

Who the HELL is the old man in the beginning supposed to be? Strong implication he's a minor character from the earlier films, but fucked if I can figure him out, outside of definitely being made up to look kind of like Ben Kenobi.

While I'll need to do a rewatch, it's very specifically stated in the movie that the death laser is a hyperspace thing. For what it's worth.

Also pretty sure Kylo Ren saw Luke's island in Rey's mind during the interrogation. Gonna see it tomorrow with a different group of friends, so will double-check. Bad sign for everyone involved, if so.

I hope she kicks Luke's ass from here to Sunday. No, dipshit, walking away from your mess without cleaning it up just makes it worse.

That 'map to Luke' is screaming in my brain; Kylo Ren said they got most of it out of the Imperial archives, but were missing the piece. That mysterious old white guy mysteriously found somehow. So: what is the map ACTUALLY to, and why did anyone think it leads to Luke?

I can't do disaster movies any more. I also can't do planetary destruction. Even the last, necessary one.


But seriously Snoke is Triclops.

BenRG:
@de_la_Nae,
(click to show/hide)At the moment we only have Leia's best guess as to why Luke ran. It's possible that she was wrong, understandably fixated on her son's long-running psychotic episode.

My own guess is that Luke figured that Snoke was fixated on him and, furthermore, that he would deprioritise everything except finding him. So, vanishing for a while would actually reduce the damage the First Order would do as they would divert resources that they'd otherwise use for wider-scale atrocities to finding him.

Why the map? Yeah, that was a bit of a clunky narrative device wasn't it? My best guess is that, in deference to old Jedi/oriental mysticism tradition, Luke foresaw that the One to Restore Balance would, ultimately, come looking for him and would find him. All he had to do is leave a trail of breadcrumbs to follow and trust in The Force that she would somehow get the means and motive to do so. I mean, the keystone of the map was hidden within a few dozen miles of Rey's home, so I figure Max was meant to find her and bring her to Lune 'when the time was right'. As it turns out, Luke was right. Rey did ultimately come looking for him after confronting a Trial that would convince her that she needed to fight for Freedom, Justice and the Light.

There is no 'luck', there is only The Force :wink:

As for abandoning Rey on a barren sandheap hell-world? Well, looking at the family history, Skywalkers are notorious for making dipshit-dumb loser decisions about 'protecting' their families from metaphysical threats by making their lives miserable and emotionally traumatic. It's almost as if they want to give them a narrative device to explain a vulnerability to the call of the Dark Side! :wink:

Seriously, the level of manipulativeness in both alignments' plans for their chosen main players terrifies me, sometimes. Anakin, Luke, Leia and now Rey have all been set up like pieces on a gameboard by both sides to go through hell so they would be 'ready' to fight for their side. When you're playing chess with trillions of lives, the happiness of an individual is so insignificant as to be funny but still...!
Meanwhile, a fan essay, written in a slightly eccentric in-universe style: Always Three There Are. It addresses the recurring narrative themes of the main characters in the three trilogies and their interactions (warning, The Force Awakens spoilers within!). It made me nod my head thoughtfully at its insight on the subject.

94ssd:
So I decided to marathon the movies with the intention of going to see Force Awakens again tonight. Against the advice of wiser people, I used the 1-6 order.

Seeing the opening text crawls in succession made me realize we should have seen the misery the prequels would visit on us coming from just the first two sentences of each one.

IV: "It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire."

V: "It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy."

VI: "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt."

That's exciting, right. I wonder what the prequels are about...

I: "Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute."

II: "There is unrest in the Galactic Senate. Several thousand solar systems have declared their intentions to leave the Republic. "

Oh...so, politics.

III: "War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere."

Well that's a little better. Although who are the 'heroes' on the CIS side, which is comprised almost entirely of droids? Dooku? Grievous? That one droid who gave a one-liner that made the audience chuckle lightly?

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