Topic: WCDT: 2406-2410 (18-22 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (Read 169204 times)

FunkyTuba · « **Reply #300 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:22 »

Something about watching Steve eat cereal with no shirt on made me want to buy a shirt.

Which means i've figured it out: it's SUBLIMINAL ADVERTISING, people!

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #301 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:23 »

I suppose that my mentioning flakes in the context of breakfast cereal was corny.

vforvancouver · « **Reply #302 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:28 »

Claire in panel four. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG!

celticgeek · « **Reply #303 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:28 »

Well, waking up presented no more trolling (for now).

RedWolf4 · « **Reply #304 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:29 »

*Doffs cap at Cold* Yes it is.

It could just be grainy, though.

Bluesummers · « **Reply #305 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:35 »

I sincerely believe he has feelings for her. I truly do.

And yes, the look + the hair = dang-worthy commentary in Panel 4...It's obvious that her glasses do not do her justice.
To the contact lens store!!! *fwoosh*

HeavyP · « **Reply #306 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:38 »

Quote from: Madmartigan on 19 Mar 2013, 10:52

We'll disagree. At best, I don't think Marten has thoughts or feelings either way for Claire. Honestly, I don't think it has yet entered his mind for him to come to a decision about anything. That said, I think he was merely surprised to have someone using him as a human pillow, which did scare him a bit (the little loop that signifies shivers was in the art on one panel) thought about it, and decided it was fine for now. I mean, not like Marten is an ass. But again, kinda pointless talking about it right now. There's been on indication of Marten's feelings for Claire outside of a solid friendship within the context of the comic so far.

I can see your viewpoint as presented thus far, but I'd endeavor to point out a minor detail - I personally believe the lines above Marten's shoulders in the panel you're referring to are simple movement lines, showing that he pushed himself up on his elbows in an attempt to politely extricate himself and avoid any awkwardness. Of course, then Claire did her Murloc impression and he decided that he didn't want to wake her up and just rolled with it.

And on today's comic....kind of an anti-resolution. Claire had to wake up at some point, see she was cuddling with Marten, and scoot to the other bed, but she's making no mention of it. I still hold that neither of them were blackout drunk (as evidenced by the fact that Marten seems to remember everything fine and Claire doesn't seem to have a "wishing for death" hangover) and is attempting to avoid awkwardness by pretending that nothing happened. Whether this is because she does or does not harbor some sort of romantic feelings for our hapless protagonist....I'll leave that discussion to others as I don't think today's comic provides any new points to really speculate on in that regard.

Narcolepto · « **Reply #307 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:40 »

Aww Marten's face in panel 4 looks so sad.

RedWolf4 · « **Reply #308 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:42 »

Oh Jeph, you cad bastard. Well played.

K1dmor · « **Reply #309 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:47 »

What if #2405-06 were just part of Marten's dream?

...

And yes, Claire shouldn't use glasses, just look at the last panel.

themacnut · « **Reply #310 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:49 »

Ninja's by K1dmor!

But yes, Marten could have just been dreaming in #2405. The way Claire's acting in this comic, he might as well have been.

Carl-E · « **Reply #311 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:52 »

I think he's probably wondering why the hell she didn't tuck him in when she went and tucked herself into bed...

Bluesummers · « **Reply #312 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:52 »

Quote from: K1dmor on 19 Mar 2013, 21:47

What if #2405-06 were just part of Marten's dream? ...

Quote from: themacnut on 19 Mar 2013, 21:49

But yes, Marten could have just been dreaming in #2405. The way Claire's acting in this comic, he might as well have been.

You terrible, terrible people... That is a horrifying thought and should be stricken from the record. Not just because of the characters involved, but because the thought of "wait you guys all this stuff never really happened" is, as a general rule, a punch to the readers' collective gut. A punch to my gut. You make Blue-chan cry...

Quote from: Carl-E on 19 Mar 2013, 21:52

I think he's probably wondering why the hell she didn't tuck him in when she went and tucked herself into bed...

Hmmm...Hokay, crying time is over. Optimism time is now. Thanks, Carl

Sassafras · « **Reply #313 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:54 »

Quote from: HeavyP on 19 Mar 2013, 21:38

Claire had to wake up at some point, see she was cuddling with Marten, and scoot to the other bed, but she's making no mention of it.

Ah, but Claire moved to cuddle Marten while she was still asleep, so there's a possibility that she moved off of cuddling him while still asleep. She might have woken up in non-cuddle position and just moved to the other bed for more space, and genuinely isn't aware that she cuddled him at all. We won't know for certain unless she brings it up.

Emoroffle · « **Reply #314 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:55 »

Awkwardness in 3... 2... 1...

K1dmor · « **Reply #315 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:55 »

Quote from: Bluesummers on 19 Mar 2013, 21:52

Quote from: K1dmor on 19 Mar 2013, 21:47
What if #2405-06 were just part of Marten's dream? ...
Quote from: themacnut on 19 Mar 2013, 21:49
But yes, Marten could have just been dreaming in #2405. The way Claire's acting in this comic, he might as well have been.

You terrible, terrible people... That is a horrifying thought and should be stricken from the record. Not just because of the characters involved, but because the thought of "wait you guys all this stuff never really happened" is, as a general rule, a punch to the readers' collective gut. A punch to my gut. You make Blue-chan cry...

I don't want that to happen, i just thought it since Jeph is trolling us, it would be awful

.

Maybe we'll see what happened when Claire woke up in a future strip?

Also, was Marten's shirt that open before?

candlejack · « **Reply #316 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 21:59 »

I don't think this is the start of where Marten starts to have feelings for Claire. I think that he enjoyed having someone next to him through out the night and misses the feeling of being in a relationship.

Bluesummers · « **Reply #317 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:02 »

Welcome, new person! You have a point, it might be simple wanting for companionship, rather than anything more, at this point. A man can dream, though...a man can dream. (We really need a Farnsworth emote)

Quote from: K1dmor on 19 Mar 2013, 21:55

Also, was Marten's shirt that open before?

I actually had to go back to check that when I first saw the new comic...yes, his top two buttons have been the only ones undone since they got back to the room.

FunkyTuba · « **Reply #318 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:04 »

and just like that, all the d'awwww evaporated

RedWolf4 · « **Reply #319 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:07 »

Only to be replaced by Shock and Awwwwwww. . . .

~~Valdís~~ · « **Reply #320 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:15 »

I adore Claire in the last panel.

Quote from: candlejack on 19 Mar 2013, 21:59

I don't think this is the start of where Marten starts to have feelings for Claire. I think that he enjoyed having someone next to him through out the night and misses the feeling of being in a relationship.

Your comment on loneliness reminded me of 2082 & 2083. Just as an aside. And hello.

xAmilli0n · « **Reply #321 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:27 »

I don't even know what to think anymore lol.

If anything, it definitely looks like Marten is developing some sort of feelings towards Claire. He definitely looks a bit disappointed to not be waking up next to her. At the very least surprised.

CrowFairy · « **Reply #322 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:29 »

Yeah, it can be really unsettling to wake up and realize the person you were cuddling with is on the other side of the room. "Oh, I didn't want to wake you up. *has been happily and quietly playing an MMO*" It's a strangely lonely feeling for those first few confused moments.

This does make me wonder if Claire's a sleepwalker, though.

ankhtahr · « **Reply #323 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:32 »

I was not part of the shipping part of this community, but I think the expression of Marten at least shows him being disappointed. Whether that's loneliness, pure surprisal, or feelings for her can't be said for sure.

Jephzibah you magnificent bastard!

Charbovari · « **Reply #324 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:42 »

Before conversation moves irrevocably to the new strip, I just wanted to hop in (hello!) and share a thought I had about the strip with Steve eating cereal. Looking at Steve's facial expressions, I suddenly realized that one of the things that makes QC unique and excellent is that Jeph typically doesn't let us read the minds of his characters. All we get is what they say out loud, their gestures, and their body language. I think this really adds to the realism of the comic and is one of the reasons I love it so much; the characters remain mysterious and real because we view them as separate from us. That's probably why the comic is so actively discussed and debated on forums like this one.

That is all! *vanishes*

K1dmor · « **Reply #325 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:45 »

Quote from: LoliBot on 19 Mar 2013, 22:29

Yeah, it can be really unsettling to wake up and realize the person you were cuddling with is on the other side of the room. "Oh, I didn't want to wake you up. *has been happily and quietly playing an MMO*"..

Yeah; unless that person woke up early to make you breakfast, that's the best thing

.

But if was playing mmo...get revenge

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(click to show/hide)

candlejack · « **Reply #326 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 22:47 »

Quote from: Charbovari on 19 Mar 2013, 22:42

That is all! *vanishes*

He's like a freaking ninja!

Run for your lives! Ninjas have invaded the forum!

K1dmor · « **Reply #327 on:** 19 Mar 2013, 23:55 »

So...
Marten turn off the lights and go to sleep.
Now they wake up, but the lights are on.
You are gonna tell me she just woke up? Nice try Claire

.

CrowFairy · « **Reply #328 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 00:03 »

Quote from: Charbovari on 19 Mar 2013, 22:42

Before conversation moves irrevocably to the new strip, I just wanted to hop in (hello!) and share a thought I had about the strip with Steve eating cereal. Looking at Steve's facial expressions, I suddenly realized that one of the things that makes QC unique and excellent is that Jeph typically doesn't let us read the minds of his characters. All we get is what they say out loud, their gestures, and their body language. I think this really adds to the realism of the comic and is one of the reasons I love it so much; the characters remain mysterious and real because we view them as separate from us. That's probably why the comic is so actively discussed and debated on forums like this one.

That is all! *vanishes*

And that's probably why we talk so much about intentions for each character toward each other! I honestly can't remember if I've thought about them not having thought bubbles before. It didn't occur to me; I guess that states something else toward the realism of the comic. I do like that we don't know for 100% sure most of the the time what they're thinking. We have to treat them like we do our friends--we only know what they've chosen to show or tell us. And that's all we can go on.

Soulsynger · « **Reply #329 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 00:09 »

Quote from: K1dmor on 19 Mar 2013, 23:55

Marten turn off the lights and go to sleep.
Now they wake up, but the lights are on.
You are gonna tell me she just woke up? Nice try Claire .

Could just be that giant light in the sky...

@Comic:
Dis gon b gud. And awkward! Time for hats!

Marten might just be disappointed because now the situation moves into a territory for him where he has to become active in order to resolve it. Like "Hey, Claire, um... about last night."
This has always been unsettling for him.
If she had just woken up beside him it would've been much more natural to talk about it.

But I vote for breakfast, then breakdown.

pwhodges · « **Reply #330 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 00:28 »

Quote from: ZoeB on 19 Mar 2013, 17:57

My older sister can remember when sugar was no longer rationed, and Mars bars became legal to buy again - more than one per family per week.

I remember going to buy sweets with a ration book.

The comic takes us neatly out of the trolling territory, while leaving the whole question of where this goes still up for grabs. Next up: breakfast with Veronica, and embarrassment all round?

NoOne3 · « **Reply #331 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 00:39 »

Quote from: K1dmor on 19 Mar 2013, 21:47

And yes, Claire shouldn't use glasses, just look at the last panel.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Panel is nice, spectacles gives her some personality, though.

Masterpiece · « **Reply #332 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 00:40 »

The ambiguity in today's comic is killing me. Why does he make us wait for another 24 hours? Why?

Loki · « **Reply #333 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 01:10 »

Quote from: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2013, 00:28

Next up: breakfast with Veronica, and embarrassment all round?

I can see endless possibilities!

----
Marten and Claire come down to have breakfast with Veronica who is sitting next to a hitherto unknown guy. "Hey son, this is Guy. I met him at the reception." "GODDAMMIT MOM."

Turns out Guy is in fact not a new pickup of Veronica, but someone important for plot reasons.

Oh god. What if Guy is Claire's dad?

----

Veronica nonchalantly mentions: "So, have you slept together?"
Marten: "NO!"
Claire: "Huh, what are you talking about? Of course we slept together. I cuddled up next to you, then went over to my bed. What's the big deal?"

Cue shocked looks all around.
----

On today's comic: Marten might be simply disappointed that she won't recognize that yes, there was physical interaction. Marten's still a guy and she is a girl, after all.

Also: Claire, do you really think that waking up at the exact time when Marten stands up makes you unsuspicious?

Akima · « **Reply #334 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 01:24 »

I can't take my eyes off the two-tone pillows...

pwhodges · « **Reply #335 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 01:28 »

As it happens, the pillows I have that are nearest to that are made by a company from your country (Sheridan).

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #336 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 01:45 »

Quote from: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2013, 00:28

Next up: breakfast with Veronica, and embarrassment all round?

Veronica nonchalantly mentions/notices that Claire is trans. Offers Claire some insight and her experiences with the third gender.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #337 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 01:47 »

Quote from: gopher on 19 Mar 2013, 08:57

Just cereal? No way is that a full nutritious breakfast.

I have just cereal for breakfast. Although today I have no cereal at all, and I am wondering what on earth to eat instead (I also have no bread, no eggs, and no desire whatsoever to cook anything).

To me, Marten looks puzzled and sort of like he can't quite work out whether what he's remembering really happened or not. I am reserving judgement on disappointed until we have something more definite either way.

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #338 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 02:02 »

Awkward time!

Arancaytar · « **Reply #339 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 02:03 »

Yeah, I'm gonna go with "disappointed."

bhtooefr · « **Reply #340 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 02:23 »

Agreed.

Panel 2: "Where the fuck did she go? I liked that!"
Panel 4: "Goddamnit, why are you over THERE?"
Panel 5: "Ah, shit, now this is getting awkward".

Marten may or may not have feelings for Claire, but he sure as hell likes cuddling her, it seems.

Also, daaaaaang. (Some women look better with glasses, but Claire looks far better without them.)

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #341 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 02:41 »

Marten doesn't even have a stuffed animal to cuddle. He must be in a state of deprivation. Dora has Mieville, Faye had her stuffed giraffe, but all Marten has is a lump of hard plastic.

Lubricus · « **Reply #342 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 02:42 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2013, 02:41

Marten doesn't even have a stuffed animal to cuddle. He must be in a state of deprivation. Dora has Mieville, Faye had her stuffed giraffe, but all Marten has is a lump of hard plastic.

Are you calling Claire a "lump of hard plastic"?

Loki · « **Reply #343 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 02:44 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2013, 02:41

animal to cuddle.

Quote

Dora has Mieville

Does not compute. Most cats emphatically DON'T LIKE to be hugged for extended periods of time and they will make it known, should you attempt to do so. Probably with making a bloodbath out of your hands.

Abyssalin · « **Reply #344 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 03:12 »

Quote from: Loki on 20 Mar 2013, 02:44

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2013, 02:41
animal to cuddle.
Quote
Dora has Mieville

Does not compute. Most cats emphatically DON'T LIKE to be hugged for extended periods of time and they will make it known, should you attempt to do so. Probably with making a bloodbath out of your hands.

I can attest to this, my cat will sleep beside me but if i hug he tries to rip my nipples out...

Masterpiece · « **Reply #345 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 03:16 »

My cat is too stupid to excert acts of violence on me.

On another note: Marten is definitely disappointed. As to why that is? No idea.

mtmerrick · « **Reply #346 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 03:21 »

Second-to-last-panel Marten is hilarious/adorable.

@ concept that the Steve panel was a dream: mind = blown
But WHO'S dream?

@ cats - keep the Lil fuckers away from me. I'm allergic and they maul me

@@K1dmor - awesome comic xD

Abyssalin · « **Reply #347 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 03:26 »

Quote from: mtmerrick on 20 Mar 2013, 03:21

Second-to-last-panel Marten is hilarious/adorable.

@ concept that the Steve panel was a dream: mind = blown
But WHO'S dream?

Could have been Claire's dream, if you think back to the beach party she was willing to pay Cosette for something (Can't remember exactly)

bhtooefr · « **Reply #348 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 03:28 »

$20, to grab Steve's ass, IIRC.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #349 on:** 20 Mar 2013, 04:32 »

Re: Thought bubbles, I can only remember the once.

THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)

Poll

It's the afterparty! So what excitement will we find?

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