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Loki:
Tangent: we all come from different cultural circles. A fedora here would not have the same association as is apparently the case in the USA, except with the part of the population that is both fluent in English and familiar with this particular culture we are talking about. I.e., a VERY VERY fractional group. (Anecdotal evidence: I dareclaim none of the Germans on this forum have ever heard of the connection, which probably means noone they know has mentioned it).
Lines:
I think the fedoras = sexist nice guys is largely an American thing, but it's a thing that's been around for years. It is ridiculous, but it's a stereotype that has real origins and is not a made up thing. I've known guys who fall into this stereotype and just as many who don't, but it's still a thing. Just like all nice males are not Nice Guys, not all dudes who wear fedoras are assholes. I don't think all guys who wear tight pants are assholes because of Hipsters, but some people automatically judge that way. Should we? No. But should it just be written off because you've never heard of it? No.
GarandMarine:
I don't think it's even an American thing to be perfectly honest. I have /never/ heard of this till right now.
Lines:
Well, do you routinely wear a fedora or know a lot of dudes who do? I'm not saying it's everywhere, it's definitely in pockets, but I think it originated in this country.
GarandMarine:
I used to wear fedoras fairly regularly, as mentioned they were classic fedoras, not a trilby. I know plenty of dudes who where or wore one or both of those styles of hat, and plenty of girls who do or did as well. (They were popular in the local alt scene while I was in high school, which is why the rude boys/skins switched to driving caps) and I can't say, even with the stupid amount of time I spent/spend online I have ever encountered this before, even symptoms of it. Maybe it's a generational gap thing I missed while I was in the Marines?
I will say I know I'm not a nice guy or a "Nice Guy". I'm a raging, arrogant asshole no matter what hat I'm wearing.
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