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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3400 on: 26 Oct 2012, 06:58 »

Oh sup blawg thredd. I've got a date this weekend.

WOO! Let us know how it goes!
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3401 on: 26 Oct 2012, 09:15 »

But honestly I see more of a problem with the language than I do casting. Using bad Chinese to swear is racist. 1) They should have gotten the language right and 2) it shouldn't have been just to swear, it should have been incorporated more fully (which is understandable, English and Chinese [Mandarin?] are the two most widely used languages) or not at all. Sci-fi often involves the blending of languages, they could have done so much better with that.

I can't actually think of anybody I know here in California who fluently speaks a language other than English (I can think of two exceptions: Hispanic folks and me, and I've already lost German and am rapidly losing Albanian)
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3402 on: 26 Oct 2012, 09:41 »

I know several people who are fluent in Mandarin and half of them are white and I have known a few people who were fluent in Spanish. But there's an entire world out there and plenty of people who speak a language that isn't English. And honestly I think outside of the United States, people are more prone to learn a second language because either they live in close proximity to other countries (think Europe) or learn multiple versions of languages native to their country (like the various types of Chinese).

I mean, we've talked about the language thing in other threads. Most Americans expect people who live in our country to know English, while we make television shows that are trying to blend cultures and don't bother to respect the other cultures while they're doing it. It's lazy. I actually quite enjoy Firefly because of the story and the relationships within the main cast, various aspects of the show still bother me.

Edit: Also if they wanted to just get away with swearing on TV, they could have done something like BSG and just made a word up. Frak is made up, but we know what it means when used in context!



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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3403 on: 26 Oct 2012, 10:26 »

I think also if popular TV shows had characters who used several languages without a cliche reason ("oh of course she speaks Spanish, her mother was Mexican" or whatever), just because they knew other languages, people might be more inclined to learn them. Look at how many people learn Japanese because they like Anime, or how many kids learn Spanish from Dora the Explorer.


Blog thread, I have had dinner with people from the choir four times this week and it has been fun! And my tutees are going away for half term next week so I get the week off from tutoring! I don't get any money, but I do get two evenings to myself.
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« Reply #3404 on: 26 Oct 2012, 10:59 »

Today is going to be Angry Productivity day around the world.

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Because TUMBLR IS DOWN.
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« Reply #3405 on: 26 Oct 2012, 15:43 »

First concert I sing in with the chorale is Sunday evening.  I'm so excited!  Borrowed the required tux from the community theatre's costume department. 

The tickets are fifteen bucks, so no one from my family will be there - we can't afford it. 





At least they're feeding us between dress rehearsal and the concert. 
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« Reply #3406 on: 26 Oct 2012, 16:48 »

What's on the program?
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« Reply #3407 on: 26 Oct 2012, 17:01 »

I've been cleaning up the place I'm staying at. The people who lived here were hoarders, and the people who live here now just never cleaned up (one of them is the son of the people who lived here; he's...kind of a hoarder, too).

Anyways, I don't think they understand what OCD means exactly. I'm putting books and CDs in alphabetical order and they keep saying "You don't have to do that" to me.

Yes.

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« Reply #3408 on: 26 Oct 2012, 17:49 »

What's on the program?

These.  The director sent us this list at the beginning of the rehearsals - it speeds the process a bit. 

"Walk Together Children" (the one listed as "Penn State names new Laureate") is the processional, and we're performing it and two other pieces (the Ave Maria and Beautiful City) with that group, Essence of Joy.  They'll be doing a few other pieces on their own, as will we. 

Our director, Jeff Webb, arranged "Beautiful City" and the version of "Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child" that the women are doing (not in the videos)

I love spirituals.  Which is ironic, not so much because I'm white, but because I'm not a christian.   :-\   



I actually sang with Mary Lou Williams (OK, my high school choir did) back in '78
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3409 on: 26 Oct 2012, 18:23 »

Last night my buddy Greg stayed over (he's moving to NZ soon and I am really gonna miss that fucker) and we engaged in some "gettin' fucked up" shenanigans and this morning we still hadn't gone to sleep so we spent an hour talking about how weird all people are, ourselves included. It's nice having a good shittalking session with yr bro.
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« Reply #3410 on: 26 Oct 2012, 18:30 »

The director sent us this list at the beginning of the rehearsals - it speeds the process a bit. 
My mostly white Detroit choir did a performance of spirituals in a mostly black downtown church back in the 80s. We did it well, and it was thrilling.

My role with my little Christmas gig group is preparation of a rehearsal CD, and this year I found a couple on Youtube. Not the best source, but all I could find.

I checked out your list: The Walk Together Children is a delight, and i love the harmony in the 23rd Psalm. Echoing the best personal review I ever received, from my wife after a 2007 performance of Carmina Burana, may your face be out of the book and may it be beaming!
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« Reply #3411 on: 27 Oct 2012, 01:55 »

We're singing at a wedding in a couple of weeks (and then inexplicably going to the beach for fish and chips... in late November... because our director has a peculiar idea of fun!) and we just got the music list unofficially via the choir librarian, who is a student.

I was Glad
Love divine (hymn + descant)
Willan Rise up
Jerusalem
Howells Behold
Monteverdi Cantate
All you need is love
Halleluia chorus.

It will be ridiculously cheesy. It will be magnificent. It will be the longest wedding ever.
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« Reply #3412 on: 27 Oct 2012, 02:21 »

Double post because it's a completely different issue - I am going to a winter ball with my choir (if and when I have enough money to buy the ticket!) and I have my eye on a dress from eBay and it is the most beautiful dress ever and I will look like a princess.



Only two days until the end of the auction! In case you're wondering why I haven't bid, I have a hammersnipe set up and I'm keeping an eye on it - if someone else bids in the next two days I'll make sure my snipe bid is high enough. I want that dress! Even if the shipping will cost almost as much as the dress itself, it is still far cheaper than getting one anywhere else.

And I have a science question - a friend was telling me about a process whereby molecules are tagged with DNA which acts as a sort of lock and key mechanism, so that the scientists can control which molecules go where. It sounded really interesting, but he didn't know the name of the process or what it might be useful for. Does anyone know?
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3413 on: 27 Oct 2012, 02:24 »

i am drunk, and i sincerely wish i had any idea how to call in sick to work tomorrow to play a show in SF without being an obvious liar

i guess thats why I'm watiing til morning to do it

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« Reply #3414 on: 27 Oct 2012, 06:45 »

It will be ridiculously cheesy. It will be magnificent. It will be the longest wedding ever.

I downloaded the Trinity College version of Rise Up. Will you do the entire Handel chorus, and at the "pronounce you husband and wife" or as a recessional? Twelfth Night Singers has done an abbreviated version that works well at the kiss. And if it's the longest wedding ever, is it the wedding of a couple of choristers?
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« Reply #3415 on: 27 Oct 2012, 06:47 »

I love spirituals.  Which is ironic, not so much because I'm white, but because I'm not a christian.   :-\   

I'm the same. Grew up with Christian music, especially in secondary school. Most was crap but some of them have stuck with me more for the nostalgia of practising them in class and one solo I did in a church.

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« Reply #3416 on: 27 Oct 2012, 07:38 »

I'm not sure whether we'll do all of the Chorus, or when - but you are absolutely right, I think they are former choristers!

Please take particular note of the Beatles song we will be singing. I find it pretty hilarious.
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« Reply #3417 on: 27 Oct 2012, 08:26 »

Well, there's nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
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« Reply #3418 on: 27 Oct 2012, 08:50 »

My boyfriend got a formal grievance filed against him in work and they seem to be taking a "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" approach about it.

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« Reply #3419 on: 27 Oct 2012, 09:22 »

What does he do?  I know in school systems, they have to take that approach, for the safety of the students...

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« Reply #3420 on: 27 Oct 2012, 10:09 »

Shop assistant. It's based around "social media" so I'm a bit paranoid about saying much even though there's no reason anything I say, under my internet name, on a somewhat obscure forum, should come back to him but better safe I guess. I understand the need to be strict but I'm also obviously biased.

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« Reply #3421 on: 27 Oct 2012, 10:21 »

Carl, I am staggered by that article. This might be the first time I have ever understood why people could be opposed to the concept of a union. What the actual fuck are they doing paying teachers to do nothing at all?
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« Reply #3422 on: 27 Oct 2012, 11:58 »

i am drunk, and i sincerely wish i had any idea how to call in sick to work tomorrow to play a show in SF without being an obvious liar

Didn't have to worry about it. Got a call an hour ago saying "Hey dude, want the day off?" and I was like "YEAAAAH!"
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« Reply #3423 on: 27 Oct 2012, 12:11 »

Carl, I am staggered by that article. This might be the first time I have ever understood why people could be opposed to the concept of a union. What the actual fuck are they doing paying teachers to do nothing at all?

It's sometimes not only the teacher's unions, either. I've heard some pretty crazy stories regarding GM/automotive unions, as well.
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« Reply #3424 on: 27 Oct 2012, 13:04 »

This post is long and bloggy and unrelated to weddings.

So I have been seeing a counselor about my ADHD all semester.  Talking about strategies for over coming it and working with my brain.  This has been helpful, but only to a point.  She asked me at the beginning of the process how I felt about medication (which she would have to refer me to someone to be screened for and is a process) and I said I wasn't convinced I wanted it.  I got this far without it and I am leary of becoming dependent on a medication in lieu of changing my own behaviors.  Stephen was on adderall for a while, and we have access to it, even though we are uninsured.  He stopped taking it because he was having a bad reaction, and it has just been sitting here. 

This week I started taking it.  Oh. My. God. I am not sure I can accurately explain the difference it makes.  This has been a historically productive week for me.  I went to all of my classes.  I paid attention in them.  I participated in a group meeting, and remembered what we talked about.  I completed two 1,000 word essays and feel good about how I did on them.  I made a Halloween costume.  I did all of this and I got a full night's sleep every night (except for the one where I went to a party).  Also I didn't have to cut myself off from the internet or avoid watching any TV.  I made a number of massive posts here, and watched a few TV shows. Doing these things over 4 days should not be impressive, but for me it is unheard of.  That Ursala skirt is the first sewing project I have managed to finish in years. 

That said, I don't feel like my productivity is due to increased energy.  Like I said, I was not saying up late or anything, I was actually going to bed exhausted at the end of the day, but exhausted because I did things, not because I was tired of facing the world because everything was too difficult to do.

I describe my mind as a series of channels, like on a mixing board.  Each channel is devoted to something different, a song in my head, my to do list, the paper I am trying to read, the outline of the paper I am writing about the one I am reading, what is the internet doing? and so on.  I see myself as having 5-7 channels on at all times, and I usually have a lot of trouble controlling which ones are loudest, so I flip between them.  When I get distracted I have a very hard time telling myself to change back to the important channel.  This means things that take prolonged concentration are hopeless for me. I always fail at sewing because when I re-start a project I can't concentrate long enough to figure out what I was doing and what I need to do next.  When I do homework I have a lot of trouble just doing homework. 

I have a few ways I cope with this.  First I spend a lot of time prepping myself to do things.  I need a lot of 'ready, set...' before I can 'go'.  If I am going to write a paper I spend a lot of time talking it though in my head while driving or walking or showering, or some other activity that quietly uses a bunch of channels, before I can sit in front of the computer and make it my primary focus.  Once I am there I try and occupy my other channels.  One way I do this that is problematic is I eat.  If I am snacking that keeps part of my brain quietly busy so I am not distracted.  I also find that if I feel panic I can devote more channels to the task at hand.  They might not all be doing the same thing; I will hop from one source essay to the next typing part of one body paragraph and the racing off to find a citation for the fact two paragraphs earlier, but they will at least be related to the paper.  Most of my writing is done at the last minute in an almost manic state where I am alone, with non distracting music on eating, and frantically pulling things together.  It gets things done, but it leaves me exhausted and unable to edit my work.  I don't think I have reviewed or rewritten a paper in years.  This means they are never my best possible work. 

On the adderall I feel like there might be fewer channels, but more importantly than that I feel like I can control which ones are loudest.  So when I am writing and I suddenly want to go see if anyone has answered my post yet, I can tell myself no, and check it later.  I seemed to still be doing two things at once, but only two.  And when I needed to switch I could just say "stop, go back to work". 

I am still not entirely convinced that it works and is not just some placebo effect kicking my ass into gear so I have arranged to do a double blind study on myself comparing it to a caffeine pill, with Stephen's help.  But until we do that, I am just going to enjoy my ability to be productive and enjoy this hopeful feeling.

To graduate on time I need to take a full load of classes (4) next semester AND have an internship.  I have never even successfully taken 4 classes at a time.  In community college I always dropped one of them, in undergrad I always "pass/failed" one (meaning I only had to get a c+ and no grade appeared on my transcript and I always got a c+/b-) and last year in grad school I took 3 classes first semester and withdrew from one of my 4 second semester.  I have also never been able to work anything more than 8 hours a week at more than the most menial of jobs while taking three classes, or I just fall apart.  My last semester of undergrad I had 2 graded classes, one p/f and one paper to write and I worked 10 hours a week at a call center.  I just passed the p/f, I got a b- in one of the graded classes and I turned my thesis in one week late with no edits and no input from my adviser. 

If adderall is really helping me like I think it is, I feel like I could actually take 4 classes and do an internship, you know, like most of my cohort have been doing for 3 semesters now without a problem. 
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« Reply #3425 on: 27 Oct 2012, 16:25 »

You GO, girl!  Be careful with the caffeine, though - you may want to use truly inert pills.  If you're really ADHD, caffeine can have some unpredictable results. 

(one source of inert pills are the "week off" pills in birth control.  They're pretty much just cornstarch.)

Carl, I am staggered by that article. This might be the first time I have ever understood why people could be opposed to the concept of a union. What the actual fuck are they doing paying teachers to do nothing at all?

These teachers have been accused of wrongdoing, and have the right to an appeal.  IN the meantime, if they're guilty, they can't be teaching; but if they're innocent, they're entitled to the salary they would have been earning.  The real crime here is that it takes 2 to five years to get a hearing in these cases. 

And the rubber room's not the union's idea, it was set up by the city to make the teachers give up.  You study prisons - don't tell me you missed the similarities? 

However, you're right in that it's a thoroughly broken system!
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« Reply #3426 on: 27 Oct 2012, 17:13 »

What I also got from that article, though, is that the union hasn't done what it should in ensuring that those in that union are doing a satisfactory job, which seems like that's important when it comes to being responsible for educating people.
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« Reply #3427 on: 27 Oct 2012, 19:18 »

If you want to be even more depressed about public schooling, watch Waiting for Superman. It talks about teacher unions, but also talks about shuffling bad teachers around from school to school. Most of it is about charter schools, but some of the other issues they talk about are very enlightening, and not in a good way.
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« Reply #3428 on: 27 Oct 2012, 19:47 »

My wife started teaching in Detroit in 1963, two years before Michigan law permitted collective bargaining by public employees. She defended her union as necessary to protect teachers from bad, stupid administrators. She told hair-raising stories about bad, stupid administrators, but also about bad, stupid teachers. Unions have gone overboard to protect the worst of their members in many professions and trades. On the other hand, I think they've also done much to create a middle class in the U.S.

Full disclosure: My newsroom was unionized from 1971 on, and my little pension comes from my union, not from my newspaper. And I once, with no official portfolio, no position as union steward, tried diplomatically, speaking in a kind of parable, to convince a resentful, distrusting editor that the union would probably roll over if he fired an obviously incompetent reporter. He did, eventually, and the union rolled over.
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« Reply #3429 on: 27 Oct 2012, 19:58 »

I don't really have to say anything about my situation, especially if you remember anything about what happened in February of 2011. Just Google "Wisconsin Act 10 State Employees".
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« Reply #3430 on: 27 Oct 2012, 20:21 »

If you want to be even more depressed about public schooling, watch Waiting for Superman. It talks about teacher unions, but also talks about shuffling bad teachers around from school to school. Most of it is about charter schools, but some of the other issues they talk about are very enlightening, and not in a good way.

We had at least two of those bad teachers shuffled around, one of which had a relationship with (and later married) one of his 14-year-old students, and the other was shifted from one high school to the other, most likely due to allegations from female students. It was a well-known rumor (fact?) that if you were female, sat in the front, and wore short skirts, you would have no trouble passing his class. And his name was Mr. Herfert, AKA Mr. Herfert the Pervert.
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« Reply #3431 on: 27 Oct 2012, 21:30 »

Completely off topic - Redball, I coulda sworn I saw you in one of those Jennie-O Switch To Turkey ads.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3432 on: 27 Oct 2012, 21:31 »

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« Reply #3433 on: 27 Oct 2012, 21:43 »

Agreed. I had Mr. Holmes (the first one) for 7th grade Health, but I never had the displeasure of having the (other) pervert for any of my science classes.
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« Reply #3434 on: 28 Oct 2012, 01:58 »

^^ Ugh. And I thought I was a shitty person for having a secret crush on a 17yo who plays regularly at my coffee shop open mic. In my defense, at very least I'm not an employee of a government institution that has legal authority over her (but that still doesn't make me feel any better about it).

Speaking of things that are never going to happen, some homeless-looking stranger tried to sell me weed outside the venue at my show in SF tonight.

Show sucked, by the way. The place was completely packed for the Giants game (the bands all waited til afterward to play), and then the whole crowd went home once Romo laid down the final smackdown of the game. We did manage to bring in a couple people from off the street, which was pretty encouraging. And the staff all liked us a lot, we had a good time giving each other shit back and forth during our set. Playing was fun, but overall, the night was a drag once the game was over.
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« Reply #3435 on: 28 Oct 2012, 03:29 »

From my limited understanding of the European version of Unions, American Unions are an entirely different beasts in many important ways. They've essentially become a very very necessary but also regularly problematic aspect of the American work force.
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« Reply #3436 on: 28 Oct 2012, 05:27 »

^^ Ugh. And I thought I was a shitty person for having a secret crush on a 17yo who plays regularly at my coffee shop open mic.

She's seventeen - at least in Britain, that means she is over the age of consent. She's probably only a few months off being fully adult under all definitions. I don't think the situation is comparable at all.

That reminds me that I keep forgetting to ask: what is the age of consent in the US? I guess it varies by state but in general? Is it 18?
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« Reply #3437 on: 28 Oct 2012, 05:35 »

16 - 18 is the state range, but I actually think the average veers a bit closer to 16 - 17 than 18.
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« Reply #3438 on: 28 Oct 2012, 05:38 »

In that case I don't see any problem at all with being attracted to a 17 year old. A 7 year old? Different matter.
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« Reply #3439 on: 28 Oct 2012, 06:00 »

Here in California, it's 18. Granted, her birthday's just a couple weeks after mine (we're both January) so it's not the worst thing in the world. And she's one of my best friends, her parents don't think I'm some kind of weirdo (yeah, I've met them both, I couldn't get out of it), she and I get along brilliantly, etc.

I just don't want to go to prison for 20 years and get gang-raped by roid raged dudes every day, call me paranoid
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« Reply #3440 on: 28 Oct 2012, 06:06 »

I think you might be ... overestimating the cruelty of the judicial system in the US a bit.

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« Reply #3441 on: 28 Oct 2012, 06:25 »

I have to ask, Patrick, why would you care what her parents think of you rather than firstly what she thinks of you?
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« Reply #3442 on: 28 Oct 2012, 06:28 »

Completely off topic - Redball, I coulda sworn I saw you in one of those Jennie-O Switch To Turkey ads.
Not that I know of. Should I look for it among the Youtube entries to see if it might be me?
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« Reply #3443 on: 28 Oct 2012, 06:42 »

It's the one where they serve breakfast to the entire town.
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« Reply #3444 on: 28 Oct 2012, 06:53 »

Patrick, just don't have sex with her until January. Being attracted to someone isn't against the law however old you are - even people who are attracted to children aren't committing a crime unless they have child pornography or assault children.
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« Reply #3445 on: 28 Oct 2012, 07:52 »

I have to ask, Patrick, why would you care what her parents think of you rather than firstly what she thinks of you?

Because parents can have a person charged with statutory rape even if the child is consenting but under the age of consent. There's some weird laws about stuff like if Pat turned 18 but she was still 17 for another few months.
Because of how rape cases are often handled, Pat could be ostracized without even being found guilty, just because he was accused of rape. Even if it was statutory which can sometimes be consensual (ie, not rape in the definition we normally use it in) but one half can't legally consent.
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« Reply #3446 on: 28 Oct 2012, 07:54 »

What her parent's think matters because statutory rape is one of the few kinds that be be prosecuted even if the victim does not cooperate.  The parents can, and frequently do, serve as the complaining witness.

Also, I don't know how old you are Patrick, but most states have a grace period so that couples who are just a few years apart don't get charged when one crosses the threshold. Just make sure you don't film or take pictures.  That is child pornography up until the day she is 18 with no leniency for the age of the person creating the material.  Some minors have been charged for creating child pornography of themselves which is clearly not the intent of such laws, but is how it stands.
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« Reply #3447 on: 28 Oct 2012, 09:56 »

Yeah, thatīs not what I meant at all.

I mean, I wasn't thinking about the laws or consent or anything, I merely found it curious that he mentioned it.

I venture to guess you don't get along that well with your folks or something, Patrick, because you said something along those lines in a post a while ago.
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« Reply #3448 on: 28 Oct 2012, 13:05 »

Getting along with your partner's parents does make the relationship run a lot smoother, whether you're both thirteen or thirty. It's not necessary but constantly having someone in the picture who dislikes you, but is important to your partner, can be a fucking pain.

Note: I get along with my partner's parents and he gets along with mine. Although I'm reminded my close friends' ex (not a grammar error, they dated two of my friends) hated me and made my friends' life hell for not cutting me out over the course of four years.

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« Reply #3449 on: 28 Oct 2012, 14:18 »

I have to ask, Patrick, why would you care what her parents think of you rather than firstly what she thinks of you?

Well, I already know what she thinks of me. We're good friends, we play music together all the time.

I don't know how old you are

I'm 23. Pretty sure that's past the grace period  :roll:

Anyway, thanks for easing my mind guys, but I'm pretty sure I'm done thinking about it either way. I'm not exactly much of a relationships kinda guy, no matter how much I like her or care about her. I know myself too well to put myself in a position where I could hurt her feelings.
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