Topic: Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread. - B (Read 115331 times)

The Seldom Killer · « **Reply #1000 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 08:57 »

Yeah, but local markets can be very tricky, especially when it comes to male accessories and doubly so when it comes to something that is associated to formal attire.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't give it a go though, but this is one area where a bit of market research will set you in good stead.

Ties don't need to be silk, many are polyester or other synthetic fabric. I'm not aware of a large market for cotton although wool is on a bit of a resurgence in the UK at the moment.

Do you have any designs available for us to look at? I'd be happy to give feedback. In fact if you make something that I think is good and suits me then I will be prepared to buy one and tell people where I got it from. Can't say fairer than that.

Dazed · « **Reply #1001 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 09:22 »

Quote from: calenlass on 01 Feb 2011, 08:49

Noooo do not hate ties. Ties are great! Ties are lovely!

I don't hate them! I'm just not good at tying them, so it is annoying, so I didn't.

nekowafer · « **Reply #1002 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 09:25 »

Well I am considering buying a pattern like this one. This way I can make both thick and thin ties. Then I can use any fabric I want, aside from anything with stretch - I can't see that looking too good. But most that I've seen have a sheen to them - silky or satiny, whatever the fabric content. What kind of wool is popular?

If you are (or anyone else is) interested, you can send me a PM with your preference in material, length and width. I don't see it being difficult to make them, but I'd want to try out the pattern before actually selling it to anyone. So it may be a couple of weeks until I have one that is acceptable.

I would think that the concept of a completely customizable tie could be attractive to some. But you're right, I need to do some more market research type stuff. Thanks guys!

redglasscurls · « **Reply #1003 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 09:31 »

If you do, definitely get an etsy store up and running! Good search functions and gets you out of just the immediate market

valley_parade · « **Reply #1004 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 11:26 »

Quote from: Dazed on 01 Feb 2011, 09:22

Quote from: calenlass on 01 Feb 2011, 08:49
Noooo do not hate ties. Ties are great! Ties are lovely!

I don't hate them! I'm just not good at tying them, so it is annoying, so I didn't.

Right over left, repeat, up and through, tighten. I found a site that taught me online when I had an interview last year, but it took 27 tries to get it right. Clumsy, I am.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #1005 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 11:40 »

Ties are easy.

Bowties keep giving me hell. I can do it with some practice, but by the next time I try I can't do it again. It's annoying.

The Seldom Killer · « **Reply #1006 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 11:43 »

Sheen is a bit of a convention, although often it's product of using silk in it's most common form. I think lined silk holds it's form pretty well and drops creases very quickly after use. I've remembered that my dad used to have a cotton tie that had been made out of a batik print fabric. The resurgence of wool is usually in a tight knit or weave of a heavy tweed blend.

If you want pattern testing with a fabric then I'm happy to help (although that would require despatch to England). Otherwise, I'm not committed to shiny and prefer non-patterned asymetrical prints in deep colours, nothing too striking and not too much white.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1007 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 11:44 »

Quote from: Ozymandias on 01 Feb 2011, 11:40

Bowties keep giving me hell.

But..bow ties are cool.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #1008 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 11:55 »

Which is why I keep trying.

Alex C · « **Reply #1009 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 11:58 »

I'm standing pat with my mastery of the half-windsor and four-in-hand knots. Bow ties can go fuck themselves.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1010 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 12:58 »

I want to say the half-windor was the one I described above? Correct me if I'm wrong?

calenlass · « **Reply #1011 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 13:44 »

Man, bow-tie knots are fucking complicated.

I am pretty sure the one tie knot I know is the half-Windsor. Maybe.

Guys, if I can tie a half-Windsor normal AND reversed [on someone else], you can at least do it on your own neck.

Lunchbox · « **Reply #1012 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 13:49 »

Matt Smith's Doctor Who actually wears a dicky bow rather than a real bow tie.
FYI, Jordan.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1013 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 13:59 »

IT'S STILL COOL, ALLY.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1014 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 14:02 »

AND SO ARE FEZES.

Toba · « **Reply #1015 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 18:49 »

custard.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1016 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 20:47 »

Put a little thought into which tie knot you are using, guys!

Different techniques for tying go with different types of collar, which in turn go with different types of face. The general rule is that thin faced fellows should wear a wide-spread collar, and vice versa. In keeping with that, use a wider tie-knot (i.e; Full Windsor) for a wide collar, and a smaller knot (Four-in-Hand a.k.a. the first knot pretty much everyone learns a.k.a. the one Shane described upthread or a Half-Windsor) for a narrower spread. It's also worth noting that wider/thicker/more ornate tie-knots are more formal than thinner and simpler ones. In other words, you wouldn't use a full Windsor knot underneath a sweater or with a sports jacket/blazer and chinos/jeans. I personally favour the half-Windsor over the four-in-hand most of the time because the four-in-hand actually produces an asymmetrical knot, which doesn't look as neat or put-together as other symmetrical knots.

Here's the two resources I head straight to when I wanna try a new knot or when I need refreshing on the old standards:

How to Tie a Tie- Ben Silver Contains a few interesting, more obscure tie-knots, as well as bow-ties and ascots(!)
How to Tie a Tie- The Art of Manliness Features Youtube videos for all the major knots, plus the mysterious and enigmatic Shelby knot.

calenlass · « **Reply #1017 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 21:09 »

When they are finished, I have to say, I cannot tell the difference between the half-windsor and the windsor. In fact, I don't know that I could pick out a Shelby as different than the other two, either.

Spluff · « **Reply #1018 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 21:43 »

The windsor is the gigantic ugly one

Johnny C · « **Reply #1019 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 21:47 »

i'm half-windsor like all the time basically

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #1020 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 23:07 »

when i was a bridesmaid like two years ago i ended up tying most of the groomsman's ties. since the groom and the best man both already had four-in-hand, that's what everyone else got too. a lady who can tie a tie well is a good resource for all formal occasions, i feel. plus, i think it's a weird sort of romantic when i have tied the tie of a SO.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1021 on:** 01 Feb 2011, 23:10 »

A lady who can tie a tie well is a pretty good resource I guess but I still feel pretty justified in my disdain for any grown-ass man who doesn't know how to tie his own tie at all (not expecting dudes to know multiple knots but come on)

A Wet Helmet · « **Reply #1022 on:** 02 Feb 2011, 18:21 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 01 Feb 2011, 23:10

I still feel pretty justified in my disdain for any grown-ass man who doesn't know how to tie his own tie

Alex C · « **Reply #1023 on:** 02 Feb 2011, 19:49 »

Quote from: calenlass on 01 Feb 2011, 21:09

When they are finished, I have to say, I cannot tell the difference between the half-windsor and the windsor. In fact, I don't know that I could pick out a Shelby as different than the other two, either.

Like Spluff said, the end result is all about size, so a lot can depend on the tie, particularly after that whole narrow tie thing hit. A proper fuck-off-I'm-huge full windsor generally requires a longer tie than most people buy to get the full effect if you're actually putting a pretty serious knot in it. Otherwise the size is noticeable but not really a huge deal. The varying amounts of material in different ties are part of why Johnny's half-windsor all the time approach can end up working out OK if you have a decent tie selection and are handy enough with a knot. With that said, I still have a few favorite ties that I prefer to use a four-in-hand with.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1024 on:** 02 Feb 2011, 19:56 »

True. That's another reason I generally favour the half-windsor, because a four-in-hand generally looks pretty insubstantial with many of my ties. That said, I can't use anything except a four-in-hand with the infamous sock-tie.

Lunchbox · « **Reply #1025 on:** 02 Feb 2011, 20:08 »

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1026 on:** 02 Feb 2011, 20:16 »

start here

JD · « **Reply #1027 on:** 02 Feb 2011, 21:08 »

Quote from: A Wet Helmet on 02 Feb 2011, 18:21

Quote from: David_Dovey on 01 Feb 2011, 23:10
I still feel pretty justified in my disdain for any grown-ass man who doesn't know how to tie his own tie

I have no shame

calenlass · « **Reply #1028 on:** 03 Feb 2011, 00:45 »

Aight, dicks, I am working on my Mardi Gras costume hardcore now, but no one checks the crafty forum and I want opinions, so. Tonight I played with makeup for three hours to see if I want to do a painted mask instead of making one. The results are pretty rough, but for a first sketch I think it isn't so bad, considering how much I need to go buy. Sorry for the quality, I only have my webcam to work with right now.

Not sure if I really like the outline really; I don't think it looks evil enough. The lipstick is navy but will eventually be black, and my eyebrows will be way less visible when I get some wax and concealer and shit.

calenlass · « **Reply #1029 on:** 03 Feb 2011, 09:26 »

Thanks, guys. I will take your suggestions into consideration.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1030 on:** 03 Feb 2011, 12:51 »

Quote from: Sam on 03 Feb 2011, 06:14

Quote from: Ptommydski on 03 Feb 2011, 03:33

Caleb · « **Reply #1031 on:** 03 Feb 2011, 13:33 »

Oh man. That made me drop my orange I was laughing so much Dovey.

Excellent.

Lines · « **Reply #1032 on:** 04 Feb 2011, 05:56 »

Quote from: calenlass on 03 Feb 2011, 00:45

Not sure if I really like the outline really; I don't think it looks evil enough. The lipstick is navy but will eventually be black, and my eyebrows will be way less visible when I get some wax and concealer and shit.

Whatever color you're going to use for filling it in should pop out more. I can't really tell if that's silver (that's what I'm guessing), but maybe it'd pop out more if it was more opaque. I think it'll look better once you can't see your eyebrows.

Ballard · « **Reply #1033 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 01:43 »

hey fashion thread I've got some fashions for you

these pants go with fucking everything god damn

squawk · « **Reply #1034 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 03:17 »

gene your legs are the nicest legs i've seen on a boy, the pants definitely help

Ballard · « **Reply #1035 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 10:32 »

Thanks

Sam- yeah, I need to get a black belt. The only leather belt I have at the moment is tooled caramel brown leather (borderline orange) with a large brass buckle which looked like ass with these shirts.

Lunchbox · « **Reply #1036 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 13:32 »

A+ fashions, Gene.

Lunchbox · « **Reply #1037 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 15:05 »

http://tinyurl.com/4t34dpa

Also you guys! I don't wear heels at all (my feet get sore easily plus I am super clumsy) but I feel like I need to start trying. The above link are some shoes I have seen in real lifes but am totally unsure what to do due to a) expense b) height but I am totally diggin' the t-strap and I have heard that wedges make for an easier transition into heel wearing. SHOULD I BUY THEM Y/N or should I keep hunting around for some that are maybe not suede or that are slightly cheaper or more vintage?

valley_parade · « **Reply #1038 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 15:53 »

Totally digging the top one, Gene. Other two aren't bad, either.

Lunchbox · « **Reply #1039 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 18:15 »

Hey you guys I bought some boots instead.
This ups my brown boot count to 4 pairs. (For those following after reading up on sock tie, I bought the more expensive boots last year and wear them with everything.)

http://yfrog.com/h7k0szoj

SirJuggles · « **Reply #1040 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 19:19 »

Those look red to me, but they are still beautiful.

scarred · « **Reply #1041 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 19:54 »

Quote from: Ballard on 14 Feb 2011, 01:43

hey fashion thread I've got some fashions for you

I think I like the second outfit best, actually

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1042 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 21:11 »

Everyone recommend me places on the Internet that I can buy ties from

Lunchbox · « **Reply #1043 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 21:23 »

I found this one for you Dovey.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1044 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 21:39 »

I... no

Rizzo · « **Reply #1045 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 22:52 »

I got myself a pair of these. Not really fashion advice, just gloating over my sweet starwars shoes.

squawk · « **Reply #1046 on:** 14 Feb 2011, 23:08 »

ohhhhhhhhhhh my goodness so sick. and the colors. that's one of my favorite combinations of blue. good shit riz

elizaknowswhatshesfor · « **Reply #1047 on:** 15 Feb 2011, 03:49 »

Quote from: Lunchbox on 14 Feb 2011, 21:23

I found this one for you Dovey.

Somebody sent that to Regretsy....

The extra letter · « **Reply #1048 on:** 16 Feb 2011, 04:20 »

So in the last 15 months I managed to put on 1/4 my original bodyweight.

As a result all my pants no longer fit. I'm all set for work pants, but I need casual pantstrousersjeanstypesofthings suggestions.

I've pretty much got no sense of style so I'm pretty much open to anything except assless* chaps or culottes.

*I would say arseless chaps, but that doesn't look right on the internet.

Rizzo · « **Reply #1049 on:** 16 Feb 2011, 04:55 »

Chaps are by definition assless so the word is unnecessary. Chaps with an ass would be pants.

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