Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 400023 times)

Bearer · « **Reply #1650 on:** 18 Jul 2010, 11:46 »

My original idea behind this guitar was something that could work in a studio environment, where having multiple channels at once could be useful, but then also at a show. That's why it also has a mono mode where the pickups are sent to the three way switch like a standard telecaster. Even going live with stereo out, you could have the separate pickups driving 2 different effects chains that get blended together at the end into one amp.

Still, even if it's not practical, it is fun to mess around with. I should probably record something and youtube it.

Patrick · « **Reply #1651 on:** 18 Jul 2010, 18:20 »

Quote from: Ballard on 18 Jul 2010, 01:59

If you'd ever heard a Ric 4003 played live you'd shut the hell up.

Cool your shorts, sugartits, I'm not hating, I'm just saying there's financial and physical impracticalities inherent in such a design. If you've got the motivation and funding to get past those, though, you're fuckin' home free.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1652 on:** 18 Jul 2010, 18:26 »

Would it cause the same problems if you split it with and ABY into two amps? I know Prowse from the Japandroids has such a setup, and I believe Nick Zinner from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs has such a setup. I was considering running something like that on stage with my main effects chain into my Deville, an split another with an ABY into a bass amp with a POG or Digitech Whammy.

Lummer · « **Reply #1653 on:** 18 Jul 2010, 23:57 »

I mean, fuck, Scott Hull runs into like 8 amps with Pig Destroyer..

Ballard · « **Reply #1654 on:** 19 Jul 2010, 11:07 »

All eight of them br00tal as fukk.

Patrick · « **Reply #1655 on:** 19 Jul 2010, 12:56 »

I wanna see a band like Slayer make their guitarist play shit like a Line 6 Variax so that each string will go to a different amp

And then watch them realize that the brain-melting distortion won't sound anywhere near the same that way

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1656 on:** 19 Jul 2010, 18:16 »

Quote from: Patrick on 19 Jul 2010, 12:56

I wanna see a band like Slayer

?

Patrick · « **Reply #1657 on:** 19 Jul 2010, 18:28 »

Oh sorry am I suggesting that Slayer isn't unique, does that hurt

Bearer · « **Reply #1658 on:** 19 Jul 2010, 19:13 »

So I got a Rockband drum controller for $10 and have it hooked up to my computer as a drum kit. This may have been one of the best purchases ever.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1659 on:** 20 Jul 2010, 09:47 »

Quote from: Patrick on 19 Jul 2010, 18:28

Oh sorry am I suggesting that Slayer isn't unique, does that hurt

I was just wondering why you would even want to see Slayer, mang. Kerry King is a tool.

Ballard · « **Reply #1660 on:** 20 Jul 2010, 16:57 »

Patrick · « **Reply #1661 on:** 20 Jul 2010, 17:35 »

Argue with that beard

I dare you, that fuckin' thing'll kill you

Nodaisho · « **Reply #1662 on:** 20 Jul 2010, 20:48 »

The beard or the guitar?

The Duke · « **Reply #1663 on:** 20 Jul 2010, 21:49 »

Pick one; they both look very stabby.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1664 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 00:51 »

So opinions, I love them. I've been trying to figure out my favorite guitar look. I've come to the conclusion that the 4003 is the "coolest" (sound, elegance, "it" factor) looking bass. (I have much love for the EB-3 and Jag bass as well) My favorite guitars would have to be my Rick 350v63, (gotta love what you got, and it's why I got it) the G&L Bluesboy, and Gretsch White Penguin. But, the one that wins out for me is the Mosrite Ventures. So, I've been looking at getting one.

So, it's kind of a general question for the thread, but I'm wondering what others thoughts on the subject are.

Melodic · « **Reply #1665 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 01:02 »

Ricky 4001s were hella cooler than the new 03s.

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #1666 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 11:58 »

I would possibly murder a small child for a Mosrite. Gorgeous guitars

Patrick · « **Reply #1667 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 12:30 »

They sound so fuckin' sexy.

I mean shit, the Unicorns used them too, not just the Ventures, and everybody fuckin' loves the Unicorns.

Bearer · « **Reply #1668 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 14:55 »

As soon as I get the time/money, I'm going to build a proper guitar. Definitely a thinline Jazzmaster shape like the one I just recently completed, but out of some fancy wood, like Black Walnut/Cedar ideally, but those are kind of hard to find in specific thicknesses, so I'll probably have to go mahogany/maple. Nice and glossy. Neck P90, Bridge humbucker, with a telecaster control plate and either a strat tremolo block or one of these sexy motherfuckers if I suddenly win the lottery or something:

Dam, if only I didn't have more important stuff to blow money on...

valley_parade · « **Reply #1669 on:** 27 Jul 2010, 12:28 »

What. the. fuck?

Ballard · « **Reply #1670 on:** 27 Jul 2010, 14:46 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 27 Jul 2010, 12:28

What. the. fuck?

The Duke · « **Reply #1671 on:** 27 Jul 2010, 21:18 »

Martin and Takamine are both good; however, I think Martins are generally kind of expensive (although in my experience you get what you pay for).

Spluff · « **Reply #1672 on:** 27 Jul 2010, 22:48 »

get a fuckin dobro

Patrick · « **Reply #1673 on:** 27 Jul 2010, 23:50 »

Quote from: Jeans on 27 Jul 2010, 15:14

guys what kind of acoustic guitar should I get? I can probably go up to like six hundred bucks if I don't spend any money for a month or so. (It would be an advantage if it can, uh, take a beating.)

I highly reccomend Simon & Patrick. You absolutely will not regret it. Got mine for $450 and it's a fantastic instrument. I'm very satisfied with that purchase. They're owned by Godin, same people who own Seagull, which is also a fine instrument.

See the photos of mine on the previous page, that's pretty much what they look like. Reeeeal purdy. They sound just as nice as they look.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1674 on:** 28 Jul 2010, 16:15 »

I've been looking at S&P myself. I want a Jumbo and don't feel like spending several thousand dollars on a J-200. I bought my brother a Seagull guitar two years ago for his birthday and it play way better than I thought a guitar in that price range should.

Ballard · « **Reply #1675 on:** 04 Aug 2010, 00:34 »

You should know, Martins are infamous for their dark tone. I had one of their cheaper models (cedar top, back and sides, was about 700 bucks?) once and it constantly bothered me how quiet and dull it was.

If you like sparkling, jangly acoustic tone, avoid Martin. Guild makes some excellent guitars for around that much, as do Blueridge and Art & Lutherie. Go play some and tell me what you think.

Remember that the "play the actual guitar you're buying" rule applies double for acoustics. Each and every one feels and sounds a little different.

Albatron · « **Reply #1676 on:** 05 Aug 2010, 16:12 »

So a while back I took the neck off of a strat knockoff and put it on the body of an old rickenbacker hollowbody knockoff. Then I decided to remake the bridge and nut and tune it like a ukulele. only now im not sure what strings to use to get it to be g, c, e, a. The scale length is 25 1/2 or so. I tried using some old guitar strings but they were way too loose.

What strings should I use, o great masters of all thing guitar? I'll post some pics and sound bites once I get the electronics all figured out.

Patrick · « **Reply #1677 on:** 05 Aug 2010, 16:33 »

Depending on which octave those notes are in, the answer could be anything. If you're trying to get them into a higher octave than one would normally hear on a guitar, I'd say to try out lighter strings than your typical set, unless you've already got hella light strings on there. If you're trying to go deeper, get heavier ones. Pretty intuitive. Also, that sounds like a fucking baller project and I demand pics.

Albatron · « **Reply #1678 on:** 05 Aug 2010, 20:52 »

Hmm, I guess that makes sense. I'm going for whatever octave a guitar is normally in, but the reentrant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reentrant_tuning tuning throws me off. The G is a octave higher than would be expected, then the C is the lowest string. I Just wanna know if I can use a set of regular or light guitar strings and not have some strings really tight and others relatively loose or if i need to buy single strings to achieve that.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1679 on:** 06 Aug 2010, 19:26 »

So a Mark 1 Mosrite guitar is 2400 new direct or from Ed Roman. I discovered The Ventures sponsored another guitar with mostly the same features later on HERE for 550. Rory Attwell from Test Icicles uses one. It uses Aria pickups and bridge which I would consider swapping out. I'm thinking of getting the VM 75 and putting in either THESE or bareknuckle soapbars(but they are way more expensive). Thinking of getting it for my first project guitar.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1680 on:** 06 Aug 2010, 19:30 »

I mean the trem's a bit different, but it'd be a good guitar to mod.

Have you looked at Eastwood? They do Mosrite and Univox clones that are a little less than the Wilson Brothers.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1681 on:** 06 Aug 2010, 20:01 »

I have! Eastwood is a pretty neat company. I suggested them to my bassist friend and he bought [urlhttp://www.eastwoodguitars.com/Bass/classic4/images/classic4-big/classic4white.jpg=]THIS[/url] and absolutely loves it for his post rock band. I would love to play both, but would have to go to Oregon before I could find a place that had both in stock. I'm leaning towards the VM-75 because it uses the same construction and materials as the Mosrite where as the Eastwoods are made of basswood, but I'm not totally sure.

Ballard · « **Reply #1682 on:** 06 Aug 2010, 23:42 »

I used to work at a place that stocks Eastwood's full line, and will vouch for their quality and playability.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1683 on:** 07 Aug 2010, 09:07 »

I've only played the Ichiban before, but it was killer.

doombilly · « **Reply #1684 on:** 07 Aug 2010, 09:27 »

Quote from: Ballard on 06 Aug 2010, 23:42

I used to work at a place that stocks Eastwood's full line, and will vouch for their quality and playability.

Wow, we are playing a 7 minute walk away from there Friday 8.13.
Must. Resist. Temptation.

Christophe · « **Reply #1685 on:** 08 Aug 2010, 22:40 »

As copypasted from that other board I post on, here's a smattering of my current guitar family:

The main guitar; a 1980 Fender Lead II with GFS Brighton Rock single-coil in the bridge, stock pickup in the neck. Feels somewhat heavy but it plays and sounds so good.

A friend's Squier Telecaster. Action is shit. Currently tuned to CGEGCC for one of the songs I've written.

L-R: Ibanez Artwood acoustic guitar, Ibanez bass (bought from a classmate for $20), another friend's Squier Jazz Bass with the frets pulled out. It sounds okay but he done screwed it up a bit (part of the nut is missing near the g string wtf), will probably give back to him as soon as he remembers to take it back.

Also, question: I'm in the market for a new tube amp (hopefully to be purchased by money saved up over the next few months). I'm looking for something with a low-enough wattage that wouldn't be ridiculous at a house show or a small venue but won't be underpowered next to a loud drummer. Amps that have caught my eye include the Fender Blues Jr. and Epiphone Valve Senior. Anyone got any thoughts?

Ballard · « **Reply #1686 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 06:48 »

Quote from: doombilly on 07 Aug 2010, 09:27

Wow, we are playing a 7 minute walk away from there Friday 8.13.
Must. Resist. Temptation.

Do it. You won't regret it.

Your wife might.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1687 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 10:29 »

Ooh, Ludlow has a National Airline. I'd consider putting it on my card if Jack White didn't make them so cliche.

Quote from: Christophe on 08 Aug 2010, 22:40

The main guitar; a 1980 Fender Lead II with GFS Brighton Rock single-coil in the bridge, stock pickup in the neck. Feels somewhat heavy but it plays and sounds so good.

Also, question: I'm in the market for a new tube amp (hopefully to be purchased by money saved up over the next few months). I'm looking for something with a low-enough wattage that wouldn't be ridiculous at a house show or a small venue but won't be underpowered next to a loud drummer. Amps that have caught my eye include the Fender Blues Jr. and Epiphone Valve Senior. Anyone got any thoughts?

I love racing stripes on Fenders. I am always on the lookout for a Cyclone II if I can find a good one at a reasonable price.

I have a Hotrod DeVille 410 and a really good option for louder tube amps is the THD Hot Plate or other power attenuator. It is a bit pricey, but for how much a good tube amp is, it is a good alternative to another amp.

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #1688 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 10:53 »

I love this thing to death.

glyphic · « **Reply #1689 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 11:02 »

I respect the fact that you're in a committed relationship with that guitar, but I will never cease coveting it behind your back.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1690 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 12:08 »

That was a specific reference to the J.B. Hutto Montgomery Airline they have. Supro Twin Tones are ace, though. As much as I love the Hutto you are emulating Jack White if you play one ever if you are not trying to. Other than signature models it seems to be a unique phenomenon to that guitar. There may be others so closely related to an artist, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Ballard · « **Reply #1691 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 12:51 »

That's five kinds of stupid, bro.

Airlines are killer guitars and you can easily pull one off without being Jack White.

I'm pretty sure Jack White himself resents you for pigeonholing him into being that red guy with the lame drummer chick.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1692 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 13:13 »

I think I'm misrepresenting my opinion. I have mad respect for Jack White and his custom aluminum Tripple Jet for the Raconteurs is something I've been GASing about for a while. (even earlier in this thread) I just can't think of a guitar that is more closely associated to the artist than the JB Hutto and Jack White in all of music.

Ballard · « **Reply #1693 on:** 09 Aug 2010, 14:09 »

Do it.

Personally I like the gold hardware on this particular guitar. The rest of it is really subtle (white on black) and so it's not horrible and gaudy.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1694 on:** 10 Aug 2010, 10:50 »

Chris, AC15s are in your price range.

Get a fucking AC15.

Ballard · « **Reply #1695 on:** 10 Aug 2010, 10:58 »

Quote from: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 13:13

I think I'm misrepresenting my opinion. I have mad respect for Jack White and his custom aluminum Tripple Jet for the Raconteurs is something I've been GASing about for a while. (even earlier in this thread) I just can't think of a guitar that is more closely associated to the artist than the JB Hutto and Jack White in all of music.

Gee, how about Les Paul and the Les Paul? Jimmy Page and the cherry sunburst Les Paul?

(and yes I know Paul plays a highly modified Recorder these days, nevertheless)

Billy Gibbons and the Gretsch Thunderbird?

Jimi Hendrix and the reversed cream Stratocaster?

Paul McCartney and the Hofner violin bass?

Kerry King and that piece of ass someone took an icepick to?

Christophe · « **Reply #1696 on:** 10 Aug 2010, 11:25 »

Neil Young + Old Black Les Paul, Tim Midgett + Travis Bean Wedge Bass, Roger Miller + Fender Lead II, no wait I copped that last one.

The Duke · « **Reply #1697 on:** 10 Aug 2010, 12:19 »

Quote from: Ballard on 10 Aug 2010, 10:58

Gee, how about Les Paul and the Les Paul?
<snip>
(and yes I know Paul plays a highly modified Recorder these days, nevertheless)
<snip>

Sadly, I don't think he plays much of anything these days.

Nevertheless, I agree, all of those are way better examples than Jack White. Others include:

Bruce Springsteen and his Telecaster/Esquire hybrid

Slash and his Les Pauls

Glen Hansard and his beat-to-shit acoustic

Angus Young and his SGs

John Fogerty and his Les Pauls

Ballard · « **Reply #1698 on:** 10 Aug 2010, 12:34 »

Oh jesus right, it slipped my mind that he passed away.

Pretty much right up until his death, he was doing weekly shows at the Iridium Jazz Club here in New York.

The Duke · « **Reply #1699 on:** 10 Aug 2010, 13:19 »

Because he was a stone cold badass. Much respect.

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