Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 399064 times)

Lummer · « **Reply #1750 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 08:33 »

Quote from: Patrick on 31 Aug 2010, 07:29

Quote from: Lummer on 29 Aug 2010, 13:58
That argument doesn't work and you know it, Patrick. Fucking Nickelback plays PRS and that doesn't stop them from being some of the best-built, best-sounding and most playable guitars I've ever laid hands on. Every US model PRS I've ever tried has been mindblowingly good. Incindentally, my friend Jake's CE24 stands out among these, so I say go get it.

I was talking about Santana's tone. Can't stand it, it ain't just him as a player or his style of music. I liked his sound better back when he was using Les Pauls and cranked-to-fuck amps.

Santana will sound like Santana, no matter what he's playing through. Not because he's any good any more, but because he dials his tone knob way the fuck down and plays with all the fire and originally of a wet blanket.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1751 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 09:08 »

Quote from: Ballard on 31 Aug 2010, 00:52

Competely unrelated: how do we feel about this?

They're calling it a Mustang and clearly it's a late 60s Musicmaster..

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1752 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 12:06 »

Quote from: Ballard on 31 Aug 2010, 00:44

That's an exception to the rule and you know it. Even so it's only just alright and doesn't come close to redeeming this.

Way to dodge the question. I want to know what the problem is with the aesthetics of PRS's rank and file guitars. If we're gonna pick the worst of each brand's stuff then I'm just gonna go dig up that reliced Joe Strummer tele and blow this thread to hell

Christophe · « **Reply #1753 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 17:07 »

So I've been playing with .11s on the Lead II for about a month and a half or so and I've gotten pretty used to them; to the point where I can bend up to a whole note.

Is it time to start moving up to .12s?

Patrick · « **Reply #1754 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 17:31 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 31 Aug 2010, 09:08

Quote from: Ballard on 31 Aug 2010, 00:52
Competely unrelated: how do we feel about this?

They're calling it a Mustang and clearly it's a late 60s Musicmaster..

NERRRRRRRRRD

I'm actually really excited to see that thing. Because playing on 'expert' by strumming with yr fucking feet just isn't fun, it's depressing.

doombilly · « **Reply #1755 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 17:53 »

kind of a split from ole Ken P's thinking...
But US Music's new line has some sexy.

Ballard · « **Reply #1756 on:** 01 Sep 2010, 06:17 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 31 Aug 2010, 12:06

Way to dodge the question. I want to know what the problem is with the aesthetics of PRS's rank and file guitars. If we're gonna pick the worst of each brand's stuff then I'm just gonna go dig up that reliced Joe Strummer tele and blow this thread to hell

The slightly modified Superstrat shape is ugly and I hate flamed tops for the most part.

And honestly that Tele wasn't ugly, it was just douchey. It was a pathetic attempt at marketing using a famous and widely revered dead guy. If I had a Tele which I personally beat to shit like that, I'd find it beautiful.

As for the robot guitars and the Zoot Suit SG, I guiltily have to admit that I like all three.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1757 on:** 01 Sep 2010, 10:49 »

Quote from: doombilly on 31 Aug 2010, 17:53

kind of a split from ole Ken P's thinking...
But US Music's new line has some sexy.

Unf!

The pickup-ring looks really tacky on there though.

Melodic · « **Reply #1758 on:** 01 Sep 2010, 17:47 »

I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

The Duke · « **Reply #1759 on:** 01 Sep 2010, 19:53 »

Quote from: Ballard on 01 Sep 2010, 06:17

Quote from: David_Dovey on 31 Aug 2010, 12:06
Way to dodge the question. I want to know what the problem is with the aesthetics of PRS's rank and file guitars. If we're gonna pick the worst of each brand's stuff then I'm just gonna go dig up that reliced Joe Strummer tele and blow this thread to hell

The slightly modified Superstrat shape is ugly and I hate flamed tops for the most part.

And honestly that Tele wasn't ugly, it was just douchey. It was a pathetic attempt at marketing using a famous and widely revered dead guy. If I had a Tele which I personally beat to shit like that, I'd find it beautiful.

As for the robot guitars and the Zoot Suit SG, I guiltily have to admit that I like all three.

I'm with you there.

Ballard · « **Reply #1760 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 00:53 »

Quote from: Melodic on 01 Sep 2010, 17:47

I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

Fuck no. You can absolutely get a nice amp for $400.

I cannot stress enough that your amp is at least as, if not more, important than your guitar. I can't count the amount of times I've seen people blow $1000 on a guitar and settle for a lame amp, and deal with the consequences.

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #1761 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 08:59 »

Quote from: Ballard on 03 Sep 2010, 00:53

Quote from: Melodic on 01 Sep 2010, 17:47
I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

Fuck no. You can absolutely get a nice amp for $400.

I cannot stress enough that your amp is at least as, if not more, important than your guitar. I can't count the amount of times I've seen people blow $1000 on a guitar and settle for a lame amp, and deal with the consequences.

Seconded. Nice gear isn't worth buying if you don't have anything halfway decent to play it through.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #1762 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 11:24 »

So, speaking of amps, what are the cheaper but good brands that can get sounds similar to orange or mesa boogie (I know those aren't the same sound, but the general idea is there)? A recto is somewhere just south of $1k if I remember correctly, I want to stop using my 10w Behringer amp, but I don't want to sell my car to do it.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1763 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 12:50 »

Quote from: Melodic on 01 Sep 2010, 17:47

I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

get a POD. I have a 50w tube-amp and I recently bought a pod xt. Guess which i like the most.

Hint: It's small and red.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1764 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 12:58 »

My friend self medicated his crappy amp with pedals for years, and it never quite fixed his tone. Then he finally shelled out for a 410 DeVille (same amp I have, coincidence? actually yes, but still) and sounds worlds better. Still, in the end it all depends on the sound you are going after.

glyphic · « **Reply #1765 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 14:18 »

Sovtek has some cheap heads with some monstrous tone. I picked up a Mig-50 and a vintage Ampeg 4X12 for $500 on craigslist.

The Fender Devilles are pretty rad, too. about $500 for those as well.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1766 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 14:24 »

DeVilles run $800 new (or 1k for the Blues model) The Delux is $600, but it was probably $500 before last year's Fender price hike.

Melodic · « **Reply #1767 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 16:22 »

What exactly is a PodXT? Just a modeling preamp? And can anyone recommend amps under $400?

doombilly · « **Reply #1768 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 17:20 »

Quote from: Melodic on 03 Sep 2010, 16:22

What exactly is a PodXT? Just a modeling preamp? And can anyone recommend amps under $400?

It is a multi fx pedalboard, does amp modeling. etc.. I've been rocking the Pod X3Live for about 2 years. If I didn't have such a great amp rig I would just play it into the PA.
They just did a firmware upgrade. I got 12 new effects. But still I like having some tubes at the end of that signal chain.

Melodic · « **Reply #1769 on:** 03 Sep 2010, 17:28 »

While that sounds like a great option to retain the modeling capabilities of my current amp, I'd still need something neat to plug it into, and I don't really have money for both.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1770 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 05:57 »

The pods are great on their own for recording, practising and anything that doesn't require other people to hear you, like jams or gigging.

J · « **Reply #1771 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 11:49 »

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG7mhJbGFUI

thoughts?

Patrick · « **Reply #1772 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 13:02 »

Quote from: glyphic on 03 Sep 2010, 14:18

Sovtek has some cheap heads with some monstrous tone. I picked up a Mig-50 and a vintage Ampeg 4X12 for $500 on craigslist.

I have a friend who picked up a MiG-60 which he plays through a 2x15. ANGRIEST FUCKING SOUND IN THE WORLD. It seriously sounds like two chainsaws trying to fucking kill each other.

Lummer · « **Reply #1773 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 13:14 »

I'm gonna need one of those, then..

Melodic · « **Reply #1774 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 13:46 »

Quote from: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Sep 2010, 05:57

The pods are great on their own for recording, practising and anything that doesn't require other people to hear you, like jams or gigging.

How, exactly? Headphones?

Lummer · « **Reply #1775 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 13:47 »

yep. A decent pair of headphones, and adequate skills at dialing in tones can yield really good results.

doombilly · « **Reply #1776 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 16:49 »

I disagree. You can get good tones out of them live, into an amp or a PA. You just have to learn all the nuances. Which I'm STILL doing. I played two shows in GA that I thought my TT was dying on. It turns out the last time I was cleaning all the dust and road spit off the X3L I flipped the output switch to Line (instead of Amp). It sounded like a flatulent beaver having sex with a robot platypus. Just exactly like that. That is the biggest draw back. There are so many options. Really you need to self-limit. But I can go from one song skrank skrank fender sound to nice AC30 Top Boost in the next. It just seldom works out where you'd wanna do that in the same song. It's too unnatural sounding. Really hot lead sounds are hardest because it is so easy to get that fizzle-y sound instead of the godzilla shooting laser beams out her vagina that you want. Or whatever.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1777 on:** 04 Sep 2010, 17:10 »

That is pretty much exactly what I mean with what you are going after. Corgan recorded Mayonaise with a broken strat he found at a yard sale. You can make absolutely crap gear work for a certain sound. You'll probably never have the beautiful clean without some nice tubes, but if that isn't your style you can be just as creative with what you've got.

doombilly · « **Reply #1778 on:** 05 Sep 2010, 06:38 »

Yeah, when my Solid state Fender Princeton Chorus is at the end of the signal chain it sounds like poo. With the Tiny Terror = guitar gold. And I set my volume and gain to a clean Twin-ny sound. But I suspect if I RTFM I could use those stereo effects loops they way they were intended. But too many farking instrument cables for me. I'm using two now. Guitar ->Line6 ->Amp. You DO have to make sure the amp model is just so to get any mod or delay efx to sound properly rad. But I've noticed in the last firmware upgrade it is a bit easier. It's like they noticed that when you have your output set to "Front of Stack" the efx need to be a certain way to get any ballz.

Patrick · « **Reply #1779 on:** 05 Sep 2010, 16:42 »

FINE CHRIS, START A WHOLE THREAD ABOUT THE POST I MADE BEFORE I EVEN MADE IT

GOD

doombilly · « **Reply #1780 on:** 05 Sep 2010, 16:58 »

Quote from: Patrick on 05 Sep 2010, 16:42

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/pavement

I AM DOING THIS SO FUCKING HARD

When I saw that I thought about you. I was actually going to send you that. heh.

ahem, say goodbye to the Black Widow. I already got the replacement.

Same awesome neck as my other Nitefly. Only SSS w/ custom wound dimarzios and a chunkier maple body and basswood neck. It is 10 yrs older than the Nitefly I bought new and the frets look brand new. The neck has some scars but with the carbon fiber reinforcement it plays like brand new. I told guy I couldn't get any piezo sound and I got $300 off. Turns out in '96 they were passive and you need a stereo cord for that. No case. No trem bar. Trem is in the locked position. Don't think I'll do anything about any of those things but get a case. I'll probably never use the Fishmans.

Bearer · « **Reply #1781 on:** 10 Sep 2010, 11:45 »

Violin Les Paul anyone? This is a pretty excellent build thread. The guy will be selling these too when he gets the prototype done.

glyphic · « **Reply #1782 on:** 10 Sep 2010, 17:34 »

Traded my hollowbody for a Danelectro U-1 with a vintage pickup.

I LIKE.

Spluff · « **Reply #1783 on:** 10 Sep 2010, 17:53 »

Quote from: Bearer on 10 Sep 2010, 11:45

(PIC)
Violin Les Paul anyone? This is a pretty excellent build thread. The guy will be selling these too when he gets the prototype done.

I never realized what the massive hole in my life was until I saw that guitar

Spluff · « **Reply #1784 on:** 10 Sep 2010, 18:00 »

oh god he's got manatees living under his house, too

I am going to kill him and steal his identity

doombilly · « **Reply #1785 on:** 11 Sep 2010, 07:03 »

Quote from: Spluff on 10 Sep 2010, 17:53

Quote from: Bearer on 10 Sep 2010, 11:45
(PIC)
Violin Les Paul anyone? This is a pretty excellent build thread. The guy will be selling these too when he gets the prototype done.

I never realized what the massive hole in my life was until I saw that guitar

Just, wow. Mohogany! One of my favorite woods.

Patrick · « **Reply #1786 on:** 11 Sep 2010, 12:00 »

Holy fucking ghost, I'm only on page 9 of that thread because everything he does is just so goddamn mesmerizing to look at. Such a gorgeous instrument and such excellent work.

Dude doesn't even have a fucking bandsaw, he uses a hand saw and just cuts that bitch with muscle power.

That Scatter Lee guy is the fucking man.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #1787 on:** 11 Sep 2010, 12:18 »

He also posts a buncha threads on the TDPRI tele home depot which is an amazing, wonderful place to begin with. Scatter is just plain brilliant.

doombilly · « **Reply #1788 on:** 11 Sep 2010, 15:48 »

Ugh, been to GC twice today. On a Saturday. I seriously would kill people if I worked there. The sound. The nattering douchebags that are always there playing and not buying anything. Anyway, Acoustic Black Widow is now for sale there. I don't regret it. F'ing sexy looker but the E strings sat too close to the outer edges of the neck and too many tuning issues. Plus I got the SSS Nitefly. I hate I didn't get to play it in last night's 1.5 hour set. But we were having such a good show I didn't want to rock the boat.

Bearer · « **Reply #1789 on:** 12 Sep 2010, 22:41 »

Damn, I can't wait till the hollow-body one is done.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #1790 on:** 13 Sep 2010, 20:07 »

Can anybody recommend a particular drum machine? I'm looking at getting one because knowing how to play to a click track is really handy and I could do early BTMI!-type stuff.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1791 on:** 14 Sep 2010, 09:31 »

FENDER, A JAZZMASTER FOR UNDER $500?!?!?!??!?!?!??!

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Blackout-Jazzmaster-HH-Electric-Guitar?sku=H61569

!!!!!!

Melodic · « **Reply #1792 on:** 14 Sep 2010, 17:41 »

o shit i would absolutely buy that

greenMonkey · « **Reply #1793 on:** 14 Sep 2010, 20:32 »

I don't know, those are two of the least pretty Jazzmasters I've encountered. If I ever get a Jazzmaster (I'd love one), it will be something like this:

David_Dovey · « **Reply #1794 on:** 14 Sep 2010, 20:58 »

Re-paint it using the money you saved

Ballard · « **Reply #1795 on:** 16 Sep 2010, 19:57 »

I'm digging the black on sunburst look (and changing the black guard to a tortoiseshell one wouldn't be hard). What I'm not digging is the uncovered humbucker at the bridge, what the fuck?

Patrick · « **Reply #1796 on:** 16 Sep 2010, 20:11 »

Quote from: greenMonkey on 14 Sep 2010, 20:32

I don't know, those are two of the least pretty Jazzmasters I've encountered. If I ever get a Jazzmaster (I'd love one), it will be something like this:

(pic)

Dogg, the one part where you and I disagree on that guitar is the Bigsby. Unless you think it looks wrong too, in which case, brofists all around.

Ballard · « **Reply #1797 on:** 16 Sep 2010, 21:01 »

I generally stay away from signature models but holy shit the Elvis Costello Jazzmaster.

The Duke · « **Reply #1798 on:** 17 Sep 2010, 20:44 »

Scientists have confirmed that Elvis Costello is the classiest person alive.

doombilly · « **Reply #1799 on:** 18 Sep 2010, 05:58 »

Quote from: The Duke on 17 Sep 2010, 20:44

Scientists have confirmed that Elvis Costello is the classiest person alive.

It's also in the Quran/Bible/Communist Manifesto/Waffle House Menu.

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