Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 398352 times)

edwinalink · « **Reply #1800 on:** 18 Sep 2010, 07:16 »

Quote from: doombilly on 11 Sep 2010, 15:48

Ugh, been to GC twice today. On a Saturday. I seriously would kill people if I worked there. The sound. The nattering douchebags that are always there playing and not buying anything. Anyway, Acoustic Black Widow is now for sale there. I don't regret it. F'ing sexy looker but the E strings sat too close to the outer edges of the neck and too many tuning issues. Plus I got the SSS Nitefly. I hate I didn't get to play it in last night's 1.5 hour set. But we were having such a good show I didn't want to rock the boat.

I'd KILL to buy something. but the store never has more than six guitars for me.. and they usually list something like this.

Black Squier Strat,rancid Setup, bad wiring. nasty neck
Black Jackson Strat,...Forget about it.
Black Epiphone LP, massive fret buzz
Flamed Orange Epiphone LP, low output pickups, again, more fret buzz (Why? I've never heard a righty epiphone do this. but the last 3 lefty LP's ...Bzzzzzz)
Black Ibanez RG, I love the neck set up, but combine a cheap trem with an agathis body and I just feel like I'm 13.
Black Ibanez GRX, same as above

What I wouldn't give to be able to walk into a store. grab an ES-330-esque guitar, or an Ibanez Iceman. pay for it and leave.

Patrick · « **Reply #1801 on:** 18 Sep 2010, 08:23 »

Are you guys aware that Guitar Center does not give a shit about the customer shopping experience? If they did, they'd have people who gave a fuck about actually getting their repair jobs done.

There's really no excuse for 70% of a random sample of guitars from the Concord, CA store, regardless of brand, to have non-working pickups when I spent a summer procuring parts and completely replacing the electronics (including pickups) in my Squier. I had never soldered anything before in my entire life and I made it work.

There's also no reason for any guitar with an adjustable bridge and truss rod to ever, EVER have intonation or fret buzz issues when on the sale floor, unless the wood is warped beyond the threshold of the components' ability to correct it.

edwinalink · « **Reply #1802 on:** 18 Sep 2010, 08:43 »

^exactly, when a Used Ibanez RG321 in a Mom and Pop store... is a better player than Guitar Center's new Fender American Standard Strat in EVERY regard.

I have to feel the jackwheat setting them up is partly to blame.

doombilly · « **Reply #1803 on:** 18 Sep 2010, 12:23 »

Well the GC's I don't think can or will do a setup. My experience has actually improved at teh local store. Of course we were there 3x last saturday. And back again today. They used to have a lot surlier crowd working there. And they have another company do all their repair work. When I was a kid the independent mom+pop stores were better. But sometime in the 90's they all started carrying crappy products at 1000% markup. It didn't take long for the super stores and internet to put an end to that.
I live in the #12 population center in the usa. There are 2 music instrument stores, GC and SamAss. I've gotten good and bad service in both places. If I feel I'm not treated well I'll either drive 100 miles or got to the internet. Also guys locally who are supposed to be "experts" at set up on instruments I wouldn't let do it. Fucking keep a bass or guitar for 3 weeks and then it comes back no better than before. I've learned to do a lot more myself. The J bass we brought home used the other week, came stock with one of the wires never having any solder on one of the volume pots. I just fixed it. Thing is a 2007. Probably been sold twice by GC. Someone should have taken that plate off. Meh, the pickups were crap anyway. Swapping those too.

edwinalink · « **Reply #1804 on:** 18 Sep 2010, 14:44 »

I jusr feel really freakin stoked to have found a GOOD Luthier in my howetown. his price on labor is pretty dang liveable. and the products in his store are mostly used. but in fantastic Order.

How good?

He made my B.C. Rich Warlock PLAYABLE.

After I sold it to him, of course...

doombilly · « **Reply #1805 on:** 19 Sep 2010, 08:37 »

That's like, "damn, my ex-girlfriend dropped all that weight and is dating a millionaire."

edwinalink · « **Reply #1806 on:** 19 Sep 2010, 16:56 »

that is EXACTLY what it was like... I waked in, noticed he had put it out for sale... picked it off the rack, perfect action, actual tone adjustments from the tone knob. the neck was stiff again.

Damn it.

Patrick · « **Reply #1807 on:** 19 Sep 2010, 22:27 »

Simple stuff to do if you know what to do with a soldering iron, neck shims, and a hex wrench.

Lummer · « **Reply #1808 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 00:25 »

Dear guitar thread.

...

doombilly · « **Reply #1809 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 03:34 »

If I ever start an old-time country band, I want one of those.

Patrick · « **Reply #1810 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 10:13 »

Why did that need to be made

I mean really are you going to tune the 6-string neck to something ridiculous (GAEGAE, DADFAG, etc.) and have the 7-string neck be in standard? That is really the only use I see for having a 6/7 doubleneck.

Noff · « **Reply #1811 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 11:47 »

...that actually sounds more useful than the normal 6 and 12 string setup...

glyphic · « **Reply #1812 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 13:23 »

Quote from: Patrick on 20 Sep 2010, 10:13

GAEGAE, DADFAG

The Duke · « **Reply #1813 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 18:03 »

Quote from: doombilly on 20 Sep 2010, 03:34

If I ever start an old-time country band, I want one of those.

Agreed.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #1814 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 19:38 »

for country it should also have a b-bender

a locking, floyd rose b-bender

Akima · « **Reply #1815 on:** 20 Sep 2010, 20:24 »

Quote from: Lummer on 20 Sep 2010, 00:25

Dear guitar thread...

Wow! That is actually a real thing? I thought it was a Photoshop joke until I read the following posts.

Lummer · « **Reply #1816 on:** 21 Sep 2010, 02:33 »

It's a special edition release by Ibanez.

Seeing as my band plays sixers in C# and 7's/baritones i G#, then this thing makes perfect sense in a practical way.
It still looks like ass though.

Melodic · « **Reply #1817 on:** 21 Sep 2010, 14:36 »

Dude, it's a 6/7 double-neck Ibanez guitar. In no way does "practical" factor into it.

doombilly · « **Reply #1818 on:** 21 Sep 2010, 15:04 »

I want to hear Junior Brown play polkas on it.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1819 on:** 21 Sep 2010, 15:06 »

It'd almost make sense if the 6 was a baritone.

Almost.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1820 on:** 21 Sep 2010, 16:31 »

The only way it ever made sense to me is to grow an extra arm. Double necks are the Nintendo 64 controllers of the guitar world.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1821 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 10:53 »

IMO, it would be more practical as a 7/7 or a 7/14, for me anyway

Also, Radical, Doublenecks are for live performances.

Also II

Quote from: Lummer on 20 Sep 2010, 00:25

Dear guitar thread.

GAS!

valley_parade · « **Reply #1822 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 11:11 »

Fanned out frets just scream prententious douche to me.

No offence to you, man.

Patrick · « **Reply #1823 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 11:38 »

Quote from: doombilly on 21 Sep 2010, 15:04

I want to hear Junior Brown play polkas on it.

He's just doing his job, he's the Highway Patrol.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1824 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 12:29 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2010, 11:11

Fanned out frets just scream prententious douche to me.

No offence to you, man.

But they're so comfy

Also blah blah tension

Bearer · « **Reply #1825 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 12:45 »

Gentlemen, check this out:

That's one of the new Rockband 3 guitars. It's a Stratocaster with a single coil and piezo pickup and a midi controller. You can plug it into an amp. It's a legit guitar. Along with the new drums and keyboard, expert on pro mode will give you a 1:1 ratio of what you are hearing and what you are playing.

I am pretty excited about this. I have friends who only started playing guitar/bass because of rock band in the first place. Also, it's about time everyone in the "It's just a game, go learn to play for real" camp finally shut up.

Patrick · « **Reply #1826 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 15:33 »

Oh man dude my friends already get pissed at me for beating them on Rock Band, what benefit does this possibly have for my social life. They just made the fucking game easier.

doombilly · « **Reply #1827 on:** 22 Sep 2010, 17:22 »

Rockband, and American Idol, two things that make me appreciate Karaoke.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1828 on:** 23 Sep 2010, 07:59 »

Rockband: Meshuggah would be the only thing that would make me want to buy this stuff. I already have like seven guitars, a lute and a uke already. The last thing i need is a pseudo-midi toy guitar. (I already have a guitar hero controller as well).

I'd rather just buy the guts of one, and make a project out of it.

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #1829 on:** 23 Sep 2010, 10:59 »

It's a Squier, we may be using the term "legit guitar" a bit liberally. I'd rather buy the other pro mode guitar that has 6 buttons on every fret and has a midi output.

Bearer · « **Reply #1830 on:** 23 Sep 2010, 12:31 »

The one above does have a midi output. That's how it and the new keyboard thing connect with the game. There's a video somewhere of a guy playing the game with the guitar also plugged into an amp.

Also, squire has had some pretty quality stuff coming out recently. the classic vibes series guits are, by all accounts, pretty damn good for their price range.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #1831 on:** 23 Sep 2010, 18:20 »

Reiterating that Rockband: Can is the world's most needed game.

glyphic · « **Reply #1832 on:** 23 Sep 2010, 20:22 »

Rockband: Burning Witch

Lummer · « **Reply #1833 on:** 24 Sep 2010, 00:31 »

Quote from: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Sep 2010, 07:59

Rockband: Meshuggah would be the only thing that would make me want to buy this stuff. I already have like seven guitars, a lute and a uke already. The last thing i need is a pseudo-midi toy guitar. (I already have a guitar hero controller as well).

I'd rather just buy the guts of one, and make a project out of it.

I like the idea of a whole generation of kids learning drums from Tomas Haake.

valley_parade · « **Reply #1834 on:** 24 Sep 2010, 09:26 »

Quote from: boneykingofnowhere on 23 Sep 2010, 10:59

It's a Squier, we may be using the term "legit guitar" a bit liberally. I'd rather buy the other pro mode guitar that has 6 buttons on every fret and has a midi output.

Squier make some quality fucking shit, thank you.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1835 on:** 24 Sep 2010, 09:56 »

Quote from: Lummer on 24 Sep 2010, 00:31

I like the idea of a whole generation of kids learning drums from Tomas Haake.

The world needs more polymeter.

And the newer squiers are actually pretty great for the price as long as you get them set up well.
(And a pickup swap, a refret, and a nut change etc.)

Christophe · « **Reply #1836 on:** 24 Sep 2010, 12:29 »

Hey Guitar Thread,

Tell me which amp I need to save for. I want a tube combo amp with two channels, between 40w and 20w, a single 12" speaker, and won't break $800.

Do I:

Blackstar HT-40

Blackstar HT-20

or

Marshall Haze 40w

Anyone have any experience with any of these amps? Let me know!

Melodic · « **Reply #1837 on:** 24 Sep 2010, 14:55 »

I demoed the HT-40 awhile ago and really liked it.

Ballard · « **Reply #1838 on:** 24 Sep 2010, 23:22 »

I'd go with this one. If you crank the tubes you'll get a fantastic fucking growl out of it.

Lummer · « **Reply #1839 on:** 26 Sep 2010, 02:56 »

Heh.

However, I have that record and it is really, really SO good!

Zingoleb · « **Reply #1840 on:** 27 Sep 2010, 09:58 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2010, 11:11

Fanned out frets just scream prententious douche to me.

No offence to you, man.

What exactly is the bonus of fanned frets? It just looks like it would fuck up the notes.

Radical AC · « **Reply #1841 on:** 27 Sep 2010, 10:08 »

It's supposed to be more ergonomic since your wrist is on an axis, your hand fans, blah blah ect. Maybe if you started learning on one before you picked up a standard guitar, don't use a capo, and aren't a fan of slides you can start to pretend it is better. Sort of like people that use Dvorak instead of QWERTY, but fuck those people.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1842 on:** 27 Sep 2010, 13:10 »

Quote from: Radical AC on 27 Sep 2010, 10:08

It's supposed to be more ergonomic since your wrist is on an axis, your hand fans, blah blah ect. Maybe if you started learning on one before you picked up a standard guitar, don't use a capo, and aren't a fan of slides you can start to pretend it is better. Sort of like people that use Dvorak instead of QWERTY, but fuck those people.

Supposed to be more ergonomic? The one fanned-fret guitar i've played is easily the most comfortable piece(s) of wood ive ever played, although Blackmachines are kind of awesome in general. Also it gives you both the benefits of standard scale and extended (27", 28,625", 30") regarding string tension for all your djent needs.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #1843 on:** 27 Sep 2010, 13:37 »

Quote from: Lummer on 21 Sep 2010, 02:33

It's a special edition release by Ibanez.

Seeing as my band plays sixers in C# and 7's/baritones i G#, then this thing makes perfect sense in a practical way.
It still looks like ass though.

I know this is an old post, but I was thinking something similar. 7 string in standard or every string but b up a whole step (BEADGBE or BF#BEAC#F#) and 6 in drop C (CDCFAC) and you have the ability to play in standard, b/drop b, and drop c with only minor retuning and no intonation worries.

I would rather have two guitars, though.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #1844 on:** 28 Sep 2010, 07:13 »

I tune one of my guitars to drop b, and another in drop Db. I've also ordered some 14-62 sets. I find this weird since i like playing in e standard as well. I suppose it works as an excuse to get more guitars. I've probably spent 5000$ on guitars and gear, and i'm only 16. Fuck my expensive hobby and my disjointed-ass posts.

jeph · « **Reply #1845 on:** 30 Sep 2010, 22:10 »

LET'S JUST TACKLE THIS WHOLE PAGE AT ONCE

doubleneck ibanez: LIKE GETTING TWO SHITTY HANDJOBS AT ONCE

fanned frets: ABSOLUTELY USELESS IF YOU BEND NOTES AT ALL EVER WHICH ***EVERY GUITARIST ON THE PLANET SHOULD DO AT LEAST SOMETIMES***

blackstar shit: WHY SPEND MONEY ON SHITTY CHINESE AMPS WHEN YOU COULD BUY A LINE 6 POD THAT SOUNDS BETTER seriously dudes if you're playing live and can't afford a Marshall/Fender or better, just run a POD into the PA

jeph · « **Reply #1846 on:** 30 Sep 2010, 22:15 »

Quote from: Sam on 28 Sep 2010, 08:21

Been thinking about swapping parts on my Lakland. I realized the other day my nut is plastic, and i'd prefer aluminum or brass. The pickups, they're Bartolini humbuckers which aren't bad but I feel like I could find hotter/better-sounding ones. The new pickups Lakland puts in their hollowbodies, the Chi-Sonics, sound nice. Darkstars are too expensive.

Want a new bridge. It's not bad, but again, I feel like I could get something better. Also last time my E string broke (when i break a string it's without fail the E) it unwound where the string meets the saddle, this is usually where it breaks. I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge had something to do with it? iono. Any suggestions for these 3 things?

Okay A) how the cunt do you break a string on a bass. there is something SEVERELY WRONG WITH YOUR INSTRUMENT if you are breaking your thickest string.

the material your nut is made of DOESN'T MATTER. it's an ELECTRIC BASS. the pickups and onboard electronics and amp you use matter. the wood in your bass MAYBE matters. whether your nut is plastic or bone or unicorn dick-fiber doesn't matter.

Bartolinis are like EMGs for hippies, and like EMGs they sound sterile and boring. but since you're playing an active-electronics Lakland you're kind of screwed anyway.

basically the solution is to sell your Lakland and buy a nice G&L or similar passive-electronics fender-style bass.

Ballard · « **Reply #1847 on:** 30 Sep 2010, 22:47 »

Quote from: jeph on 30 Sep 2010, 22:10

blackstar shit

don't hate

jeph · « **Reply #1848 on:** 30 Sep 2010, 22:50 »

dude is a much better rapper than those are amps

Christophe · « **Reply #1849 on:** 30 Sep 2010, 23:54 »

The Blackstar doesn't matter much anymore, I'm getting a Traynor TS-50 soon! Go Canadian amplification!

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