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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2650 on: 11 Feb 2011, 12:21 »

Okay, so...

There's this guy on Craigslist selling a "super rare" Reverend amp and 2x12 cab. I noticed in his ad that it has brand new tubes. Then, at the bottom of the ad, he mentions he also has some 60's GE tubes for sale, same type as the amp takes. So I'm a little miffed by this, because I was kinda considering purchasing the amp/cab but I think he parted out the original tubes of a rare amp just to make a few extra bucks. Am I justified here, or overreacting based on an assumption? If true, would you consider it a total dick maneuver or is that in the realm of normalcy?

Here's the ad so you can judge for yourself.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/2208410189.html

That does seem suspect, but that amp looks AMAZING.

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« Reply #2651 on: 11 Feb 2011, 13:31 »

Reverend amps are supposed to be hot shit, but I wonder how much of the magic was in those tubes. That's why I'm down on the sale, and also why I'm pissed if the guy did violate a good, rare amp like that.
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« Reply #2652 on: 11 Feb 2011, 15:25 »

Retraction... I contacted the guy through the Gear Page and he's on the up-and-up. Glad I didn't make an ass of myself! :)
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« Reply #2653 on: 12 Feb 2011, 07:15 »



Pic quote for the sake of RAD MOD, DUDE.
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« Reply #2654 on: 12 Feb 2011, 08:24 »

Thank you sir. The best part about that pickup is how awesome it sounds. The original guitar sounded thin and jangly and buzzy, but i realize now that was due to the crappiness of the guitar, not the pickup. It really sounds great there. Also, by some amazing coincidence, it must be rwrp from the bridge pickup because its hum cancelling in position 2. Crazy good luck?

The plan is to  eventually get a bigsby on there, but they are so dang expensive itll be a while. Im inspired by the black tele with the bigsby and chet atkins arm with the NOISE sticker someone on OSG has. I think it was posted in here somewhere as well. that thing looks hell of cool.
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« Reply #2655 on: 12 Feb 2011, 08:26 »

Speaking of OSG, I thought I saw one of the Tele Bigsby bridge plates for sale the other day.
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« Reply #2656 on: 12 Feb 2011, 09:05 »

i cant get into the FS section yet! bah!
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« Reply #2657 on: 12 Feb 2011, 13:37 »

That is a pretty neat mod, man. Very Cure-ish.
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« Reply #2658 on: 12 Feb 2011, 14:15 »

Alnico 5 War Pig going in my SG in 5.. 4.. 3....
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« Reply #2659 on: 12 Feb 2011, 14:57 »

That is a pretty neat mod, man. Very Cure-ish.

Thanky kindly.

And lummer, doesnt your SG already have a bareknuckle pup?
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« Reply #2660 on: 13 Feb 2011, 14:26 »

Just pimpin' my new Strat here...

(Pics are clickable)





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« Reply #2661 on: 14 Feb 2011, 01:50 »

Alnico 5 War Pig going in my SG in 5.. 4.. 3....

Between 3 and 1 comes dinner.

NotAFan, what on earth is that on the right? It's.. so attractive.
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« Reply #2662 on: 14 Feb 2011, 01:54 »

looks kinda like an old Charvel.

I know a guy who owns a Charvel

he will not stop spelling it Charvelle.

he actually OWNS it. and can't spell it.
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« Reply #2663 on: 14 Feb 2011, 02:07 »

I just popped a semi at the thought of Charvel Surfcasters.

Tell your friend that Chevelle is a shitty band (but a cool car).
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« Reply #2664 on: 14 Feb 2011, 02:14 »

That is a pretty neat mod, man. Very Cure-ish.

Thanky kindly.

And lummer, doesnt your SG already have a bareknuckle pup?

It acted as a test bed for the Para Bellum prototype, but that was not a permanent thing. It's now in my best friend's Flying V:

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« Reply #2665 on: 14 Feb 2011, 07:01 »

Alnico 5 War Pig going in my SG in 5.. 4.. 3....

Between 3 and 1 comes dinner.


NotAFan, what on earth is that on the right? It's.. so attractive.


That's my Charvel Spectrum, it's actually the same age of my strat! Which are both older than me!

Spectrums are pretty neat! They came in all the 80's colors of the rainbow.


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« Reply #2666 on: 14 Feb 2011, 08:43 »

looks kinda like an old Charvel.

I know a guy who owns a Charvel

he will not stop spelling it Charvelle.

he actually OWNS it. and can't spell it.

It's like the dudes that always spell Squier wrong.
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« Reply #2667 on: 14 Feb 2011, 09:23 »



This has an 80% chance of being mine in the near future.
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« Reply #2668 on: 14 Feb 2011, 10:27 »

that 6 in-line neck looks so out of place on that magnificent body
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« Reply #2669 on: 14 Feb 2011, 10:42 »

Good point, it would look better with a 3/3. However, I'm buying this thing despite its looks, not because of them. It plays and sounds *incredible*. I've been searching high and low for a guitar that has the clean chimes of a strat but will still melt my face off with distortion. This seems to be it!

Edit: I also love the Bass Contour Control!
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« Reply #2670 on: 14 Feb 2011, 11:24 »

Reverends are dope for the money. I want THIS one.

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« Reply #2671 on: 14 Feb 2011, 11:31 »

I live near SuperSound music, and they have TWO Rick Vitos *in stock*. I went over there and played the green one. It was definitely cool, but it couldn't beat out the Flatroc for what I'm looking for. Also, the green doesn't look quite as awesomely-retro in person. The black looks better in person, though.
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« Reply #2672 on: 14 Feb 2011, 11:33 »

Man that is sad. it looks Deco as hell on their site.

Still, for what the Rick Vito costs. I'd just build a really wicked Partscaster.
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« Reply #2673 on: 14 Feb 2011, 11:46 »

that is the nicest green
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« Reply #2674 on: 14 Feb 2011, 12:51 »

Wow, you read a whole lot into my post that wasn't there.  What I said is there is a cap in there that has no rating on it.  I suspect the chirp I hear may be it discharging.  I'm going to swap it and the pot to see.  You didn't see anything in there about "OMG I need to find an original .022uF Black Beauty!" 

Oh dang, my bad man.  I have to make this argument quite a bit, so any time someone mentions a tone cap I get a bit edgy.
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« Reply #2675 on: 14 Feb 2011, 13:05 »

It's like the dudes that always spell Squier wrong.

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« Reply #2676 on: 14 Feb 2011, 14:41 »

lul dude you and yr shitty fender squire strat.

Fuck's sake, can you not read a headstock?
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« Reply #2677 on: 14 Feb 2011, 17:10 »

That's my Charvel Spectrum, it's actually the same age of my strat! Which are both older than me!

That guitar is made 40% less attractive because of that pointy ass headstock. What a waste.

Everyone else, good guitaring. Keep it up.
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« Reply #2678 on: 14 Feb 2011, 20:40 »

hey guys so
i just noticed an '03 SG special in the window of my local guitar shoppe, used, for $600CDN.
what i'm asking is
do you think $100/night is too expensive a wage to whore myself out and
do you think they'd be willing to hold that guitar for 6 days?
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« Reply #2679 on: 14 Feb 2011, 22:58 »

That's my Charvel Spectrum, it's actually the same age of my strat! Which are both older than me!

That guitar is made 40% less attractive because of that pointy ass headstock. What a waste.

Everyone else, good guitaring. Keep it up.


Hey, I love jacksonstocks! It's my favourite part about it.

Pretty sure I'll be selling it soon anyway, I won't really need another sixer for a while now that I've got my strat.
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« Reply #2680 on: 15 Feb 2011, 04:45 »

This weekend I played a '57 Gibson ES-125.

There are no words to describe the raw power of a single P-90 in the neck of a fat-neck Gibson hollowbody like that one. That guitar is truly perfect in every possible way. I've never before been a fan of single-pickup guitars, but that thing blew my fucking head clean off my shoulders.

I've been told by the owner that I am allowed to record with it.
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« Reply #2681 on: 15 Feb 2011, 05:15 »

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« Reply #2682 on: 15 Feb 2011, 08:42 »

Patrick - that's awesome!! Buy it.  :laugh:

That "blew my head off my shoulders" is how I felt when I demoed the Reverend Flatroc. I'm working on buying one this weekend.
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« Reply #2683 on: 15 Feb 2011, 10:32 »

hey guys so
i just noticed an '03 SG special in the window of my local guitar shoppe, used, for $600CDN.
what i'm asking is
do you think $100/night is too expensive a wage to whore myself out and
do you think they'd be willing to hold that guitar for 6 days?

$100/night depends on how you are in bed
and six days sounds reasonable, I think they should be willing to hold it that long.
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« Reply #2684 on: 15 Feb 2011, 10:35 »

Patrick - that's awesome!! Buy it.  :laugh:

I was going to shit on this, but whoa, they're not bad pricewise, vintage. Most of the ones on Gbase fall between $1,300-1,900. There's a few in the $2,500 range, but man, for say $1,500, you could do a lot worse than this:



Which is apparently a 1951. Patrick, if you found the right one, I'd almost say try and trade for your Jag and a couple hundred bucks.
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« Reply #2685 on: 15 Feb 2011, 12:03 »

i cant get into the FS section yet! bah!

Oh, yeah, this. You need 50 posts on OSG before that opens up.
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« Reply #2686 on: 16 Feb 2011, 04:19 »

Pad that postcount!
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« Reply #2687 on: 16 Feb 2011, 04:21 »

Actually I am pretty sure Zainal is the one who keeps tab on that subsection of OSG and he pays attention to posting history, which is part of the basis for that, so that might not work.
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« Reply #2688 on: 16 Feb 2011, 04:21 »

Basically these last three posts are a poor attempt at making a joke.
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« Reply #2689 on: 16 Feb 2011, 09:44 »

Patrick - that's awesome!! Buy it.  :laugh:

I was going to shit on this, but whoa, they're not bad pricewise, vintage. Most of the ones on Gbase fall between $1,300-1,900. There's a few in the $2,500 range, but man, for say $1,500, you could do a lot worse than this:

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Which is apparently a 1951. Patrick, if you found the right one, I'd almost say try and trade for your Jag and a couple hundred bucks.

My buddy has a guitar almost identical to that which he received in beat-to-shit condition that he's working on restoring, although I don't think his is quite as old.

so anyway, I was going somewhere with that and I don't remember where and now my train of thought got lost.  Damn.
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« Reply #2690 on: 16 Feb 2011, 16:34 »

so this SG i just tried is fucking phenomenal. it's a special faded with some minor body damage -- well-used but not abused. $600, cash, no tax, and i waaaaaaaaaaaaant it. i tried a couple of standards before and didn't like how heavy it felt -- all that lacquer and binding makes the standard feel really bulky in comparison. about the only things i really liked about the standard was its pickups (and to a more nitpicky extent, the fingerboard inlays. i fucking love non-standard mother-of-pearl inlays on guitars).

so what do you think, guys? $600 for a well-used special that i defo plan to rip the pickups out on?
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« Reply #2691 on: 16 Feb 2011, 23:53 »

So I finally took in that Les Paul that's been sitting around my room disassembled for the better part of a year.

She's a beauty but just totally not my style. Also I need a new MacBook Pro really badly. So she's for sale.

Anyone interested in a mid-90s Gibson Les Paul Special?

Neck/bridge P-90s
Glossy black finish, black pickguard
Ebony fretboard with pearloid dot markers
Optional killswitch (I removed it and re-installed the tone pot it once replaced, but it's still around if that floats your boat)

Looks like this but in black.



Real pics coming soon once I pick her up from the shop.
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« Reply #2692 on: 16 Feb 2011, 23:57 »

Fuck you, strip the finish, get some spray-on nitro lacquer and make it awesome.
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« Reply #2693 on: 17 Feb 2011, 08:52 »

I'm addicted to ebony fretboards. Sucks that I don't own one, though. :(
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« Reply #2694 on: 17 Feb 2011, 12:40 »

Sucks to be you. Ebony fretboards generally look great, especially blank ones. I always shift between flamed maple 1-piece (For the looks, overall 3-pieces obviously have way better stability.) necks and Maple + ebony.
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« Reply #2695 on: 17 Feb 2011, 14:13 »

It's not so much the looks that get me, it's the feel. So slick! Once I played a guitar with one, I was hooked. (In hindsight, it also must have had amazing frets.)
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« Reply #2696 on: 17 Feb 2011, 16:46 »

Ebony is warm. Carbon fiber is hot. Sexxy, sexxy hot.  :laugh:
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« Reply #2697 on: 17 Feb 2011, 22:32 »

hey so i just tuned to Bb. how come no one told me how awesome this was before?
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« Reply #2698 on: 17 Feb 2011, 23:28 »

Because good luck playing in tune past the 5th fret if you are intonated to E.

edit: The bridge on my les paul is really tight at the adjustment for the action. Any advice on how to adjust it without screwing it up? I'm thinking possibly pliers covered in duct tape to avoid scratching it up while still getting a better grip than my fingers.
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« Reply #2699 on: 18 Feb 2011, 10:01 »

hey so i just tuned to Bb. how come no one told me how awesome this was before?

Oh hi, I didn't hear you there over always having a guitar tuned to Bb.

Seriously though go beyond. Tune to F standard, and never look back.
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