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[edwinalink]

How about if we just tune to a full octave below Drop D?

will that be the metalerest ever?

I'd try but... I'm worried my fingers will get caught in my strings.

[NotAFanOfFenders]

I've written songs for E B F# C# G# D# (full fifths) With the E being a E0. That's an octave below a standard bass E. I need funds for guitars to record this stuff with.

[edwinalink]

Clearly I have no idea what I'm talking about. 

[doombilly]

Good I covered the blasphemy with page break awesome.
 

[Melodic]

man i like drop-c but why in fuck would you need it on a bass?

re: Bb, metal-heads aside, this tuning rocks for ambient shit. kinda wishing i'd bought the baritone version of my dano so i could put on some nice heavy flat-wound strings and actually keep it in tune.

[NotAFanOfFenders]

'Ambient shit' is what I usually use F/F# standard for.

Also GDADGBE is a really cool tuning, but I feel like I'm going to need to get a 30" scale seven for it to get optimal tone. There might be an Agile in my future...

[The Duke]

My old not-very-good acoustic is tuned to CFCFAF.  Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, bitches.

Other than that, my electrics are basically always in standard tuning, and my actually-decent acoustic is in DGCFAD.

[SSPKR]

[Melodic]

you little cunt

[doombilly]

man i like drop-c but why in fuck would you need it on a bass?

re: Bb, metal-heads aside, this tuning rocks for ambient shit. kinda wishing i'd bought the baritone version of my dano so i could put on some nice heavy flat-wound strings and actually keep it in tune.

because, on my shortass scale length bass, I like my strings to feel like I'm playing with Spaghetti and you can really get some soul destroying sounds with a reverb, a guitar wah-wah a fuzz and a delay. Also. my bass has what is essentially a cheap squier strat pickup in it, so to get any bass out of it at all I need to tune it down.
I don't always play in drop C, but it's definitely fun.

tl;dr: I am a bassist who think he will get laid more often if his instrument sounds like the wroth of some ancient god. Also, I've just realised I haven't picked up my bass since I got my dano, actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vAalqCpqCA

[NotAFanOfFenders]

And that has what to do with anything?

[David_Dovey]

Maybe it's his way of saying "stop talking about bass, it's the worst"

[boneykingofnowhere]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjTewxbDZw&playnext=1&list=PL73FD66E1FB20F038
I'm sorry, what?

[NotAFanOfFenders]

Fuck yeah!

[Ballard]

you little cunt

[NotAFanOfFenders]

Clearcoat the neck while keeping the fingerboard under tape. The finish on the side of the fretboard can easily be scraped off. Whatever oil you use for regular fretboard maintenance should do the trick for the rosewood.

[doombilly]

And that has what to do with anything?

I had a point, was in a hurry and could not expound on it. Now I'm pointless.

Who likes guitars?

[NotAFanOfFenders]

Who likes guitars?

Guitars are sort of neat, I guess.

[doombilly]

Are not.

[celticgeek]

Some of them are.

[NotAFanOfFenders]

You are going to spray the body and neck individually right? As in not having anything bolted to anything else. Just checking.

[valley_parade]

I missed out on this whole tuning thing, but right now I keep my Tele in standard E tuning, and the Trump is tuned DGDBGD.

[Melodic]

To a certain extent I feel a little nerdy talking about all of these alt tunings, but it feels really liberating to discover these odd setups and being able to play something totally different. My acoustic is in FFDFCF right now, which is a gorgeous fingerpicking arrangement. Think DMST uses it.

On another note, I have never really figured out guitar tuning. Like, I've learned guitar thru tabs and nothing else, so when people start talking about "play in the key of A" or some shit I have no idea what they're taking about. Is there some kind of beginners guide to this kind of theory?

Oh man so caffeinated I wanna talk about MUSIC

[doombilly]

I think it would be a good time to learn where all the whole steps and half steps are.
It is quite liberating because then you know what chords go (best) with what keys. It is almost magical.  Because once you know what key something is, and the pattern of Whole and half steps... it is a simple matter of I ii iii IV V vi vii° for every major key. One you get that, then it is a simple matter of discovering what the relative minor is and doing the same figure. e.g.
C Major key chords that naturally occur (made from the notes of C Maj) UPPER CASE = MAJ lower case = min. °=diminished.
C d e F G a b° <-- e.g. C maj (I) is made up of the triad C, e, and G. dm (ii) is d, F, and a...etc
Then learn the modes (same as this just starting from a new beginning point).
So, C maj - CdeFGab,
the relative minor is am, abCdeFG
d dorian, same letters (and MAj/Min chords), you just count starting from d:
deFGab°C
Wikipedia is actually quite good on the modes.

[Melodic]

see
i didn't understand a word of that

[celticgeek]

Check this out:  Music Theory.

[Nodaisho]

see
i didn't understand a word of that

A few basic things.

1. All major keys are built to the same pattern.

2. all other keys are built off of a major key (there's probably an exception that I don't know).

Major keys, you start at the root (let's say it's C for this). Then you go one whole step to the second (D), one whole step to the third (E), one half step to the fourth (F, because E is one half step from F), one whole step to the fifth (G), one whole step to the sixth (A), one whole step to the seventh (B), and then it would be one more half step to the octave (C again). Then you get into what chords in that key are major, minor, and minor diminished, which Doombilly posted.

Any minor key contains exactly the same chords as the major key that has the root note of the minor key at its sixth position. So the minor key corresponding to C major would be A minor. Does that make sense?

[David_Dovey]

This is also helpful:



Google "circle of fifths" for more info

[doombilly]

see
i didn't understand a word of that

2. all other keys are built off of a major key (there's probably an exception that I don't know).

like Melodic and Harmonic Minor and also many non-western scales or modes. Also there are a bunch of experimental thingies, but if you learn the 7 modes you will be doing pretty f'ing well. /pedant

It didn't make sense to me either. For years. I had a solid D- in music theory but then was unemployed and holed up in a shack for about 9 months with an acoustic gtr w/ 5 strings.

[GenericName]

Someone had a really good post like a year ago on here explaining all seven modes and also the pentatonic and blues scales. It didn't so much go into how they related to different keys but they basically explained this

Major keys, you start at the root (let's say it's C for this). Then you go one whole step to the second (D), one whole step to the third (E), one half step to the fourth (F, because E is one half step from F), one whole step to the fifth (G), one whole step to the sixth (A), one whole step to the seventh (B), and then it would be one more half step to the octave (C again).

visually. Let me see if I can find the post.

Edit: So yeah this is the post: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22863.msg799801.html#msg799801

[Fissioninferno]

Aww yeah.



Left to right: Kerry King Signature V (10-52 gauge Cleartone strings, EMG-81/85 set with a preamp, Kahler Kybrid tremolo [unfortunately, the fifth string's fine-tuner is stripped and I can't be arsed to get it fixed], tuned in open C [CGCGCE]), Lauren acoustic ($90 new, sounds wonderful, need to replace the strings on it, standard tuning), Warlock platinum series (crappy stock humbuckers, hell-if-I-know tremolo, standard gauge strings, standard tuning).

The KKSV was a giant waste of money, $1000 new, I regret it so much.

[Ballard]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Hell, I'd be hard pressed to accept one for free.

That acoustic is real nice though.

[Lummer]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

HEY-OOOO!

[Fissioninferno]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Oh, the burning pain!  Right in my appendix!

[edwinalink]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Hell, I'd be hard pressed to accept one for free.

That acoustic is real nice though.

Two being the operative word there.

I paid a lot for my first Rich.

It made sure it was my last.

[Patrick]

you little cunt

I would like to reiterate and stress the importance of this. Holy fuck.

[doombilly]

Modes aren't that difficult really, it's just getting someone to explain them properly that's the hard part.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/67766/modes.mht  something I came up with to help me understand what I was explaining to the wife.

[Chad K.]

I'm kind of surprised no one posted this yet because you guys are normally all over the guitarfetish site. That said, the poor man's gretsch, complete with those amazing gfs gretsch style pickups-

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xaviere-XV-950-Rockabilly-Hollowbody-Guitars_c_311.html

[NotAFanOfFenders]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Explain please.

[Kwaping]

Is nobody going to explain that spalted maple pedal????

"holy fuck" indeed.

[valley_parade]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Explain please.

They make the most hideous looking guitars in existence.

[NotAFanOfFenders]

Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Explain please.

They make the most hideous looking guitars in existence.

Truly a most objective opinion.

That being said, I find most of them (cheapos) to be pretty ugly (pinstripes were never cool). Proper american Rico riches however, are the sex. A single-picup, floyded, desert-yellow Ironbird is one of my visions of an ideal guitar.

I can't stand the look of strats either, yet I own one.

[valley_parade]

Really?

Over something like...I dunno, this?



I'll choose the one that you can't stab someone with.

[Fissioninferno]

I dunno, man, I think having a guitar that could double as a weapon would be pretty bad-ass.  Stick a bayonet on the headstock and off you go!

[NotAFanOfFenders]

But that esquire is all beat up. Fuck that shit, I'd take the Rich.

[valley_parade]

It's like 48 years old dude, of course it's beat up.

[edwinalink]

I LIKE how my Rich Looked. I still do. the god awful neck, horrid electronics and untunable Floyd were all the things that killed it for me.

[Fissioninferno]

I LIKE how my Rich Looked. I still do. the god awful neck, horrid electronics and untunable Floyd were all the things that killed it for me.

I actually like the appearance of most of the BC Rich styles, including my Warlock.  Stock humbuckers are awful, though, and so is the trem, but I like the feel of the neck.  The KKSV is actually really nice, love the EMGs and the Kahler hybrid trem; any experience I've had with Floyd trems has been utter crap.  I'm grateful I haven't actually owned a guitar with a Floyd Rose.

[NotAFanOfFenders]

It's like 48 years old dude, of course it's beat up.

Another reason I wouldn't choose it. 7.5" Radius, cricket-bat neck and microphonic singlecoils no-thanks. I'm quite happy with my 20 year old guitars, but after the vintage mark I tend to not really like anything. I like new teles, I've really jived with some of them, and that sort of pug-faced look is pretty endearing.

I mean, vintage stuff tends to be pretty insanely priced as well:

Fuckin' stratatatat

telelele

[valley_parade]

Dude yeah I could say vintage LPs are overpriced too, but fucks sake, you can get mid-70s Musicmasters and Broncos for >700.