Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 391937 times)

valley_parade · « **Reply #2800 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 11:53 »

Best or worst $25 ever spent? We'll find out later this week.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2801 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 12:12 »

OH GOD DUDE, VALLEY-PARADE, LOOOOK!

This is what dano-pedals are like!

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2802 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 12:14 »

Dunno about the sound, but that pedal just looks fragile as fuck. Like you'd have ti be really careful when stepping on it.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2803 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 14:03 »

It's a plastic case, yeah.

I figure at some point I might recase it or something. http://www.pedalpartsplus.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PPP&Product_Code=1062&Category_Code=DRI

Lupercal · « **Reply #2804 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 14:14 »

Is that kid for realz or just a troll? I wouldn't find it THAT hard to believe he thinks he knows what he's doing based on what people said in high school, but whatever.

Damn its been such a long time since I got a pedal. Ever since I got the ME-50 the only thing I got was a fuzz pedal for my brother. It was a Behringer, and actually pretty good for £20 or however much I paid for it. Hard metal case too.

So in terms of pedals, are pedals that are dedicated to a genre a good thing or not? Blues pedals are everywhere. Isn't it just overdrive?

valley_parade · « **Reply #2805 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 14:15 »

Was it the Behringer "Vintage Distortion"?

It's supposed to be a pretty decent Big Muff clone.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2806 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 14:51 »

Why not just get a big muff? The new ones are still fairly close to the originals (but more reliable), frankly not that expensive as pedals go, and they're just awesome.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2807 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 15:06 »

I like highly inexpensive gear. You realize I paid $35 for my last guitar, right?

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2808 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 15:07 »

I've just realized that the only actual pedal I've used in the past 2-3 years has been an awesome vintage Ibanez EQ pedal, and even that I never actually use. That doesn't mean I'm not gassing awfully hard for an ISP decimator and a ts-808 though.

Also, my Carvin does not have a heel. I like this:

doombilly · « **Reply #2809 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 15:49 »

Quote from: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Feb 2011, 04:27

OR!

You could convince him to go the Blackmachine/Parker route and just leave the bare necessity of wood in there. Also, get a graphtech nut for it, they're pretty cheap and will basically make it stay in tune!

Well don't pare it down too much. Parkers have the carbon fiber exoskeleton, except for the newer DF (Maxx) models. And they have more headstock than ye olde ones.
I think if you cut down to one like my Niteflys your strings would possible break it w/o the shell reinforcement. But I'm no engineer, lawyer, doctor, indian squaw...

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2810 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 16:37 »

Quote from: Patrick on 25 Feb 2011, 02:25

Guys, ever since they started chambering the bodies on Les Pauls, they've all started sounding like shit.

Just wanted to get that out there since I got to play a friend's Paul and it fucking RULED even though it weighed like a bajillion tons.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Maybe they don't sound as good, but I still love the way mine sounds.

Melodic · « **Reply #2811 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 17:06 »

sorry but your subjective taste is back-asswards.

also dano pedals are pretty awesome! just, the cases are terribad.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2812 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 20:41 »

Melodic, are you seriously trying to tell me that every Les Paul since '81 has sounded terrible? Or were you trying to say that I shouldn't call someone's opinions wrong?

Melodic · « **Reply #2813 on:** 27 Feb 2011, 21:01 »

The latter, but I've never liked Les Pauls.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2814 on:** 28 Feb 2011, 09:00 »

Quote from: Melodic on 27 Feb 2011, 17:06

sorry but your subjective taste is back-asswards.

also dano pedals are pretty awesome! just, the cases are terribad.

Your opinions confuse me.

New les pauls tend to sound pretty good once you get the usually shitty stocks out of there, and dano pedals are shite. I tested out the fuzzthingy and the mehtullz quite few times a couple of years ago, and UGGH, no.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2815 on:** 28 Feb 2011, 14:28 »

No worries. I'll be running an Electro Harmonix Double Muff (which despite the name is overdrive, not fuzz) into the Dano. Wall. O. Sound.

Lupercal · « **Reply #2816 on:** 28 Feb 2011, 16:12 »

Quote from: tuathal on 28 Feb 2011, 13:52

When you rehouse them into steel enclosures, they're no worse than the cheaper (ie. METAL DISTORTIOOOOOON) BOSS pedals, and at least they don't run out of batteries when you leave the cable plugged in.
and tbh: things likie the big muff aren't that amazing without other pedals to modulate them.

DS-1 FTWW!!1!!!

But I actually have a DS-1. And I really don't understand the hate.

But I've also got like, every other possible BOSS effect on a huge blue metal thing so yeah. I could always do with a more Chorus though. And a better delay.

Only thing thats bad is that you can't say, combine distortion effects, or modulation effects, or delay times. So the idea of separate pedals is always intriguing.

Melodic · « **Reply #2817 on:** 28 Feb 2011, 20:06 »

what kind of pedals are you running out of your big muff?

Patrick · « **Reply #2818 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 03:26 »

Guys, I can't justify owning a Jag when I could own a car instead. I'll get more use out of the car; ever since I bought the hollowbody I don't use the Jag anymore.

$1300 including OHSC (+$20 shipping to the Lower 48, +$50 for others, sorry guys), willing to negotiate a bit. She was my workhorse for a good couple of years, got the associated buckle rash. Got some ugly dings on the lower body near the jack, that's how she came to me. Original bridge and bridge cover, intonated for Ernie Ball 11s. Schaller roller bridge is included in case you don't like the original bridge. Strap locks were installed by previous owner, will include the parts that go on the strap itself. Strap not included. She was with me on Albanian television, if that counts for anything.

PM me.

pwhodges · « **Reply #2819 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 05:05 »

To me, with no context, a "Jag" is a car.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2820 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 05:52 »

Jag > Jag

edit: Also, the Fender Jaguar Strat

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2821 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 15:40 »

That's horrible

Ballard · « **Reply #2822 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 17:06 »

re: Jag

Jesus christ Patrick you're doing it so wrong it hurts.

unrelated, I finally got a post with pictures up for that Special.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/2241974387.html

Patrick · « **Reply #2823 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 18:39 »

Sorry to disappoint, but like, I've got more important shit I need to do. Like get a second (or better) job and more gigs. I need a car more than I need a Fender Jaguar right now and nothing anybody can say will convince me otherwise.

Melodic · « **Reply #2824 on:** 01 Mar 2011, 21:53 »

i support patrick! jags are ugly as fuck.

Lummer · « **Reply #2825 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 00:32 »

Quote from: pwhodges on 01 Mar 2011, 05:05

To me, with no context, a "Jag" is a car.

In that instance I believe it's pronounced "Jaaaaaag"..

Patrick · « **Reply #2826 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 00:55 »

Quote from: Melodic on 01 Mar 2011, 21:53

i support patrick! jags are ugly as fuck.

Whoa man. Whoa. You started out okay and then you completely shit all over yourself. You straight up went Tubgirl on this thread.

Take it back. Right now. RIGHT NOW.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2827 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 01:21 »

Quote from: Lummer on 02 Mar 2011, 00:32

Quote from: pwhodges on 01 Mar 2011, 05:05
To me, with no context, a "Jag" is a car.

In that instance I believe it's pronounced "Jaaaaaag"..

Jaaaaaaaaaag!

Lupercal · « **Reply #2828 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 04:37 »

To say a Jag is anything less than beautiful deserves a slap in the face.

Rot10Kid · « **Reply #2829 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 05:38 »

"A Jag is less than anything beautiful."

valley_parade · « **Reply #2830 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 05:50 »

Quote from: Melodic on 01 Mar 2011, 21:53

i support patrick! jags are ugly as fuck.

DEATH TO THE TRAITOR.

Lupercal · « **Reply #2831 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 06:13 »

Quote from: Rot10Kid on 02 Mar 2011, 05:38

"A Jag is less than anything beautiful."

Nice going there, blinky.

Regardless of hipster credibility, offsets are just wonderful and very aesthetically pleasing. Well, them and most shortscales. And Ibanez headstocks for some retarded reason.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2832 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 06:44 »

Jags definitely aren't as pretty as Jazzmasters though is the thing. I think that's their disadvantage - they have a really really hot older sister. Jag switching is way more interesting to me though. maaan, if only i had a spare 1300 bucksss

Lupercal · « **Reply #2833 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 08:24 »

Quote from: Cernunnos on 02 Mar 2011, 06:44

Jags definitely aren't as pretty as Jazzmasters though is the thing. I think that's their disadvantage - they have a really really hot older sister. Jag switching is way more interesting to me though. maaan, if only i had a spare 1300 bucksss

Here's an interactive one while you wait then.

Patrick · « **Reply #2834 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 12:29 »

That's a pretty damn sweet way to demonstrate the switching system on the Jag. Accurate enough.

There's a lot of neat little things to play with on that guitar. It's really hard to get a bad sound out of that instrument.

Melodic · « **Reply #2835 on:** 02 Mar 2011, 17:25 »

jags just have too much ugly hardware on them. octagonal plastic cut-outs on the pickguard? yech.

Lupercal · « **Reply #2836 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 03:25 »

you might need to see a doctor as you appear to have incorrect taste in guitars.

Lets move away from offset love/hate, and get on to a man some like to call Paul Reed Smith. What do you guys think of his guitars?

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2837 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 05:25 »

They seem like decent quality, expensive, overly maple-toppy guitars with humbuckers that the wrong people like.

ESKIMO ROBOCOP · « **Reply #2838 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 05:28 »

Not a fan.

A PRS is like a Gibson that spent the night in a rock tumbler.

Lupercal · « **Reply #2839 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 05:48 »

Really? Because overall quality control suggests PRS sort of...win in that area. Plus, Gibson tried to sue PRS on their singlecut model. Which doesn't make any sense seeing as a hell of a lot of other less prestigious guitar companies make singlecut guitars that look a lot closer to Les Pauls than the PRS model.

I've sort of been on them/off them. A company called Vintage in the UK do some PRS knockoffs that are very good for the money.

Humbuckers that the wrong people like? I was horrified to read a while ago that members of Fightstar put fucking EMGs in their Custom 24s. Awful.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2840 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 05:50 »

Quote from: Melodic on 02 Mar 2011, 17:25

jags just have too much ugly hardware on them. octagonal plastic cut-outs on the pickguard? yech.

That's metal, dude.

Quote from: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 03:25

you might need to see a doctor as you appear to have incorrect taste in guitars.

Lets move away from offset love/hate, and get on to a man some like to call Paul Reed Smith. What do you guys think of his guitars?

He makes what appear to be super-high quality, but really douchey guitars.

I still want a Mira X, though.

Lupercal · « **Reply #2841 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 07:42 »

So you're saying Santana plays a douchey guitar?

I'm just seeing what people think of them. I go on/off the aesthetics. Smith said that he wanted to make a combination of the Les Paul and the Strat, but I'm not sure thats how I'd describe a Custom. I think its more of a Les Paul for those who don't want to get caught playing a Les Paul.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2842 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 07:55 »

Quote from: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 07:42

So you're saying Santana plays a douchey guitar?

I'm just seeing what people think of them. I go on/off the aesthetics. Smith said that he wanted to make a combination of the Les Paul and the Strat, but I'm not sure thats how I'd describe a Custom. I think its more of a Les Paul for those who don't want to get caught playing a Les Paul.

I think some of them are really beautiful, and some of them go really overboard on the flaming/quilting of the finish. As for sound I've heard they're extremely versatile for different styles and the good build quality lends itself to playability.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2843 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 08:13 »

Quote from: Ctharlhie94 on 03 Mar 2011, 07:55

I think some of them are really beautiful, and some of them go really overboard on the flaming/quilting of the finish.

Right there.

But if they're good enough for Mikael Åkerfeldt, they're good enough for me.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2844 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 08:53 »

Quote from: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 05:48

Humbuckers that the wrong people like?

I meant the "wrong people" like the guitars. Considering my wording the misunderstanding is only natural. Sorry about that. I played one once and it seemed nice. I'd not hesitate to buy one if I liked it and it was affordable.

Kwaping · « **Reply #2845 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 09:02 »

Okay, so now Jaguars are back on my radar... Can they do twang, chime, and growl in stock form, or would they need pickup swappage, or could they never do it?

I have clearance to buy one guitar and it's going to be my last one for quite a long time, so I gotta make it count! Versatility is key.

Edit: So far I keep coming back to a Taylor SolidBody with two mini-buckers. They have a nice solderless pickguard system that would handle my versatility needs for basically forever. I also like their necks and frets.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2846 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 10:56 »

Back to cheap pedals and Behringers a few pages back:

Um they do a Deluxe Memory Man clone for like 80 bucks, the "Vintage Time Machine". OSG seems to think they're pretty decent, do you guys have any history with them?

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2847 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 13:18 »

People are bashing Prs Guitars on looks and yet love Jags. I don't get this, I love jags, but jesus are they fuck-ugly.

Their korean Baritone silverburst model is pretty fucking awesome:

Silverburst plus binding is always sexy though:

Lupercal · « **Reply #2848 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 16:13 »

Mmm.

To be fair I don't find that many guitars horrible aesthetically. Just stuff like Mockingbirds and super pointy shit. Explorers I can deal with. Headstocks on Kramers? Sure! Dimebag Dean shaped guitars? Seen worse.

Yeah this is what I'm considering but I'm trying to figure out whether its actually okay or looks like complete shit.

Comes in black, quilted/flame green, and white. Demo here

Also depends on what Jag you're getting. I'd say they sound beautiful. John Frusciante said that it has a "super cool cheap sound", but for a guy who's used to playing late 60s Strats its not much of a comparison. I wouldn't say swap the pickups if you're getting one, reissue or older. They are great stock, to be honest. Go try one and see what you think.

doombilly · « **Reply #2849 on:** 03 Mar 2011, 17:33 »

heh
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1742805143037
my best 14 seconds of an A chord...

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