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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3250 on: 04 Aug 2011, 10:16 »

My friend got that exact guitar. Such a lovely thing. Quite small, too. Gretsch either go smaller-than-Tele size or, well, Falcon sized. Although the White Penguin would be one of those if-i-won-the-lottery guitars.
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« Reply #3251 on: 04 Aug 2011, 17:22 »

Dudes, recommend me some seriously dope baritones. I wanna get my bB on.

Also I really, really wanna buy me a Deluxe Reverb. I'd probably never, ever get the chance to crank the volume on it, but I found one local in prime condition for $800.
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« Reply #3252 on: 05 Aug 2011, 04:07 »

Well since they stopped doing the baritone Jag....

Danelectro 67 Baritone?
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« Reply #3253 on: 05 Aug 2011, 04:47 »

God dang, that thing is hideous. Peronally, I find baritone strats to sound pretty good. I had my old strat tuned to A standard/ drop G# for a while, as well as AADGBE, and the singles sound really good that way. Fender has made baritone strats and teles in the past, right? I'd try to find one of those. They were called the Subsonic series or something, I think?

Edit: Apparently Gibson's got a new baritone studio model out:
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3254 on: 05 Aug 2011, 07:21 »

You could always go for those Eastwood Hi-Flier Baritones.

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« Reply #3255 on: 05 Aug 2011, 08:20 »

The request never said "good looking"  :mrgreen:

Call off the search, I found your answer - Gretsch Electromatic Jet Baritone.

Mmm, sparkly.
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« Reply #3256 on: 07 Aug 2011, 07:58 »

like your moms at the swinger party...

too many knobs on her.
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« Reply #3257 on: 08 Aug 2011, 09:24 »

Dudes, recommend me some seriously dope baritones. I wanna get my bB on.

Also I really, really wanna buy me a Deluxe Reverb. I'd probably never, ever get the chance to crank the volume on it, but I found one local in prime condition for $800.

As the guy at the store I tried a vintage one out at reminded me over and over, NEVER ABOVE FOUR!!!!

I'm just in love with those amps.
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« Reply #3258 on: 08 Aug 2011, 21:30 »

I "Liekki" that bridge/tailpiece combo thingy.
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« Reply #3259 on: 09 Aug 2011, 11:47 »

I "Liekki" that bridge/tailpiece combo thingy.
I like lipstick.

Cuz I'm a pretty, pretty thing.
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« Reply #3260 on: 09 Aug 2011, 14:27 »

yr fascination w/crazy offsets is gonna get yew killed.
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« Reply #3261 on: 09 Aug 2011, 15:33 »

Flaxwood Liekki 290-T
Ugh! What do they call that finish? Oil-slick? Sump-drainings?
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« Reply #3262 on: 10 Aug 2011, 09:19 »

Flaxwood Liekki 290-T
Ugh! What do they call that finish? Oil-slick? Sump-drainings?
"Saraste Tobaccoburst"
I was gonna go with "hyper-magnified skid mark." But that would be crude. Oh wait.
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« Reply #3263 on: 10 Aug 2011, 14:38 »

All polished stone. Work of a decade. Weighs three hundred pounds, it does. She sounds exactly like you might think a rock would sound.
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« Reply #3264 on: 10 Aug 2011, 14:56 »

It's on sale for two grand.  The resonator plate on the back kills the look for me.  Not to mention my Dano Pro was less than a tenth that price.  Still, love me some lipstick pickups.
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« Reply #3265 on: 10 Aug 2011, 15:57 »

It's on sale for two grand.
Oh! Flaxwood is the manufacturer! I thought it was the wood the body was made from. I am such an idiot! :laugh:
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« Reply #3266 on: 13 Aug 2011, 15:44 »

Hello,

I'm looking to buy my first electric guitar. I have an acoustic electric and I'm okay but definitely still beginner quality. So I want this new guitar to be decent but not flashy since I don't need that right now. I keep seeing bundles like this: http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-Dreaming-Start-Playing/dp/B001R2I12Y/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1313275430&sr=8-5 but have no clue if these are smart to buy. I don't want something too crummy. If something along those lines is a smart buy, great! If not, where and for what should I be looking? Thanks!!
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« Reply #3267 on: 13 Aug 2011, 18:57 »

Yea, how much are you looking to spend? My first electric was a Danelectro with a Peavey amp, maybe about $500 all together. The Dano I still play (it is awesome!), the Peavey I got rid of long ago.
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« Reply #3268 on: 14 Aug 2011, 02:23 »

I'd recommend looking at rondomusic.com, and just see what fits your budget. As far as amps go, I have no idea what to recommend, other than the cheaper Orange amps (Tiny Terror series if you want tube), or just the basic cheap Fender/Epiphone stuff.
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« Reply #3269 on: 14 Aug 2011, 08:57 »

Cool, thanks! $500 for guitar and amp is a bit high I think since I'd like to get a couple pedals as well. Lots of options though!
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« Reply #3270 on: 14 Aug 2011, 10:58 »

I would recommend upgrading to a tube amp before treating your amps tone with a lot of pedals.  It isn't going to sound good with a cheap solid state anyway, and different pedals sound different with different kinds of tubes and amps.  Also, what kind of music do you want to play?  I love my Dano, but the lipstick pickups have about the lowest output you can get.  It makes the sound much different than if you used a Les Paul with humbuckers.  Starting off it doesn't really matter all that much, but it can be nice to plan ahead.
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« Reply #3271 on: 14 Aug 2011, 14:28 »

I don't plan on playing anything too fancy. I'm not good enough for one and super complex riffs and solos aren't my aim anyway. Simple punk and garage stuff and general noise and/or drone music is more what I hope to do on the electric. More of the latter probably. I'd like something that can sound nice and grimy but not heavy metal-y if that makes sense. Also preferably something durable. When playing noise stuff on borrowed guitars in the past, they tend to get walloped on a little bit so something particularly cheaply constructed isn't going to cut it. I don't know if there's anything that'll specifically work out for all that but I'm not overly picky at this point and won't be until I become a more competent player.
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« Reply #3272 on: 15 Aug 2011, 09:54 »

Hey TheFuriousWombat,

I think I can help here. I've been playing for a few years now, so I'm just out of the noob phase. I feel that makes me very suited to answer your questions. I recommend NOT getting any pedals right away. I was a pedal fan when I first started, but that didn't work out so well because I didn't really know anything and made some bad investments. My advice to you is to get a Fender Mustang amp, ideally the Mustang III if you can afford it ($299). It is a modelling amp, and not tube, but don't let that turn you off. Pay no attention to the tube-amp-only cork sniffers. :)

That amp has a ton of versatility and also a lot of built-in pedal-like effects that you can tweak just like real pedals. You will not be disappointed with either the sound or versatility. It also can sound great at very low levels, which is important for beginners like us.

After you've played for a while and have a good feeling for playing and gear, then I would suggest you get a tube amp and start in on the pedals.

Regarding guitars, I'd say get a cheap used guitar to start with. DO NOT buy new! Your tastes may change as you progress with your learning and you will lose a lot of money if you sell a new guitar on the used market. However, if you start off with a used guitar, you should be able to get close to your purchase price upon resale. I know it's scary for a new player to enter the used guitar world, but having a guitarist friend along to help you pick a good one will help a lot. You could also pay a little more and buy a used guitar at Guitar Center, to take advantage of their good return policy in case you don't like it.

Based on the music you said you want to play, I'd recommend getting a guitar with humbuckers over one with single coil pickups. However, I believe the Mustang can pull out some aggressive tones even from single-coils.

Good luck and have fun! :)
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« Reply #3273 on: 15 Aug 2011, 10:03 »

Musician's Friend currently has the new-ish Dano U2 reissues for about $199
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« Reply #3274 on: 15 Aug 2011, 16:18 »

huh, never thought about buying used but it makes sense when you put it that way. I'll definitely check that out. Thanks for the advice on the amp vs. pedals issue too, Kwaping. A question about Danelectros: regarding the '56 cutaways, are the ones with the dolphin headstock the same as the ones without except for that design feature? I like the sound of these guitars but I'm not a huge fan of the aqua or cherry red colors that the dolphin head ones come in.
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« Reply #3275 on: 15 Aug 2011, 16:44 »

The bottle headstocks are more dead-on to the originals..I think the "dolphin" headstocks have humbuckers in the bridge.
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« Reply #3276 on: 16 Aug 2011, 06:37 »

All I can say about newer Danelectros is that you get what you pay for. i'd never recommend them to someone I liked. Honestly, for droney and/or noisy stuff, I'd go with a used Les Paul-style guitar. Most new Epiphones are alright.

I can't really help though. All I own these days are japanese superstrats with double-locking trems.  :psyduck:
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« Reply #3277 on: 16 Aug 2011, 09:06 »

I would echo the, find a decent used electric. I wouldn't be very picky about the brand. Something rugged.

Also apparently that demented guy from the reality tv show has put the band back together...
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/black-sabbath-0816-2011/
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« Reply #3278 on: 16 Aug 2011, 16:16 »

guys, kauer has a virtual guitar builder.

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« Reply #3279 on: 16 Aug 2011, 18:03 »

played around with it all afternoon. My favorite is still the most-stripped-downed Jr. with kbuckers.

ps: I played around with a Twin 'Verb today and it is heavy as fuck. Like, I am not a Super Buff dude and there is no way I could lug it to gigs ever. Anyone know if the Deluxe is much lighter?
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« Reply #3280 on: 16 Aug 2011, 21:01 »

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« Reply #3281 on: 17 Aug 2011, 13:11 »

Guys, the thing about Danos is that they only sound good through good amps. If you use them through shitty amps, they sound absolutely awful. Many other inexpensive guitars sound alright through shitty amps (and great through good amps!) but Danos are extremely polarized like that.

I played a Dano U2 (the Jimmy Page one, for anybody new to Danos) through a Vox AC15 once, and it sounded like an absolute dream. I later played the exact same Dano through a Vox Pathfinder 15 and I felt a strange compulsion to throw everything I was using directly into a giant tank of gasoline and make it all the latest contribution to the planet's atmosphere.
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« Reply #3282 on: 17 Aug 2011, 13:30 »

I dunno, man. I have a U1 that I've played through my Sovtek Mig-50 and through a shitty Johnson practice amp and it sounds pretty rad through both.
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« Reply #3283 on: 17 Aug 2011, 18:41 »

zzounds has 6 guitars @ $300, or so there admail told me.
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« Reply #3284 on: 18 Aug 2011, 05:51 »

I played a Dano U2 (the Jimmy Page one, for anybody new to Danos)

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The U-series is the LP shaped one. Page played a Shorthorn, which is now released as the DC-59.
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« Reply #3285 on: 18 Aug 2011, 07:46 »

Patrick is now required to only shop at Guitar Centers for the next 45 days. And can only try out Strats.

Dem's the rules, son.
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« Reply #3286 on: 18 Aug 2011, 09:11 »

I mean, that does make more sense than maybe "le Les Pauls", but with my limited knowledge of los francaises, wouldn't that only work if it were plural? Les Pauls? or les Les Pauls?
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« Reply #3287 on: 18 Aug 2011, 20:04 »

Patrick is now required to only shop at Guitar Centers for the next 45 days. And can only try out Strats.

Dem's the rules, son.

Psh, I'm too broke to shop for anything. And I've been working on streamlining my cover of "Setting Me Up" anyway, ya fuck.
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« Reply #3288 on: 18 Aug 2011, 20:06 »

My Dano Pro doesn't sound very good through my Spider III 15w, but sounds AMAZING through my DeVille.  I'm pretty sure my 07 Pro came with the Yesteryear pups that are the only ones you can get from the manufacturer.  They are between 4 and 5 ohm impedance.  It is very apparent when using drive pedals for distortion.  The toaster tops on my Rick are 7.5 ohms.  I use the Spider for practicing scales (why I bought it) and micing my MicroKorg.  So, I agree with Pat on the amp issue.  I second the rondo music guitars, especially the AL-2000s for a GOOD CHEAP guitar.  It is something you can always use no matter where you are financially or musically.  Danelectros fill a specific purpose, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend one as your first electric.
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« Reply #3289 on: 19 Aug 2011, 01:17 »

ITT; We find out that guitars sound better through decent amps  :psyduck:
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« Reply #3290 on: 19 Aug 2011, 01:23 »

right, but dano pups are notoriously scratchy anyway -- my '67 has exactly two tonal options: super-twang & mud, neither of which sound great through a 15w practice amp.
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« Reply #3291 on: 19 Aug 2011, 01:50 »

Guys, I am GAS'ing hardcore for a Les Paul again...
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« Reply #3292 on: 19 Aug 2011, 01:54 »

That single-buckered Deluxe thing you posted on Facebook? That thing is sexay (For a shortscale non-superstrat that is).
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« Reply #3293 on: 19 Aug 2011, 01:56 »

Yeah, that one too, but I'm mostly gassing for black Custom or a Standard. If I find a Studio that's sufficiently beat-to-shit I could live with that too.
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« Reply #3294 on: 19 Aug 2011, 07:03 »

Heh. My cousin owns a 90's Studio that someone took a grinder to. It also has a broken (and repaired) neck. It plays like shit and sounds awesome.
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« Reply #3295 on: 19 Aug 2011, 10:53 »

I recently sold a bunch of pedals and my only amp to get a better amp. That cured my GAS for a while, but it's starting to creep back...

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« Reply #3296 on: 19 Aug 2011, 10:56 »

Anyone want to buy and pick up an Amped BXT-series 4X10 and 1X15?
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« Reply #3297 on: 19 Aug 2011, 12:24 »

"pick up" and "ampeg" = why my back is not what it used to be.
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« Reply #3298 on: 19 Aug 2011, 12:47 »

Yeah, I have a hand truck. But I still have to lift an SVT head in road case on/off tail gate. Oh and the 8x10 is 175lbs. It has wheels but still has to be hoisted in/out of the truck.
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« Reply #3299 on: 19 Aug 2011, 16:44 »

That or this..
That thing has saved many a person's back when my dad does sound for larger events

I would feel kind of silly using a hand truck for a 40lb amp, though. I mean, I'm weak but I don't want people to know it.
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