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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3400 on: 27 Sep 2011, 05:37 »

I guess most of them need a decent set-up out of the box, but they're pretty good for the dollarage.
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« Reply #3401 on: 27 Sep 2011, 09:03 »

btw, before I left for work today, I spent a good bit of time with my new Muff clone and my Tele tuned down a full step. GOOD LORD.

btw, I have a tech question. Same situation, but now with the Champ. Why does the Muff suddenly sound all raspy and spitty?

(I solved this by turning the treble on the amp down and throwing the tone on the Muff to 12:00, but..?)

I mean it's a cool sound, but I like the full, dark throaty roar better.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3402 on: 27 Sep 2011, 16:27 »

Hey all, this has probably come up before but this topic is fuck-long.  Does anyone have experience with Xavier guitars from Guitar Fetish, specifically this one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/XV-910-Semi-Hollowbody-Alnico-Dogear-P90s-Gloss-White_p_1657.html ?

I've always wanted a hollow body and this thing seems pretty awesome for the price.  Thoughts?

I fucking love my Xaviere Guitar, but a warning from the internet says that returning gear you don't like tends to be a hassle.
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« Reply #3403 on: 27 Sep 2011, 16:42 »

Also +1000 for a white semi hollow gtr with no fucking gold hardware.
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« Reply #3404 on: 27 Sep 2011, 22:24 »

Hey all, this has probably come up before but this topic is fuck-long.  Does anyone have experience with Xavier guitars from Guitar Fetish, specifically this one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/XV-910-Semi-Hollowbody-Alnico-Dogear-P90s-Gloss-White_p_1657.html ?

I've always wanted a hollow body and this thing seems pretty awesome for the price.  Thoughts?

I own a black one.  It needed a LOT of work out of the box.  The bridge was barely screwed in on the thumbwheels, the nut is made of cheap plastic, and the set up was terrible.  I ended up changing the bridge to a wilkinson roller, adding a bigsby, installing a graphite nut (Gibson pre-cut are drop ins) and doing a full set up.  I also replaced the knobs for aesthetic reasons, and replaced the tuners with grovers.  The original tuners, while OK, would probably have been sketchy with the bigsby.  Also, the strings that come on it are garbage.  They will cut you; don't try them, just replace them.

After all that, it's a pretty nice guitar.  The p90s are incredible, the action is good, and the fret job was perfect. That said, I don't find myself playing it much, and lean toward my Sheraton and Hagstrom Viking. (The Viking isn't really a fair comparison, though, as it's a little outside of the "budget" guitar range).

Here's my .02- you'll likely need to replace the nut for about $40, and to get a set up for between $30-90.  That puts this guitar in the $330-$400 before the case.  (Their black cases are cheap and AMAZINGLY well built, by the way).  After the case, we're at $400-$470, plus shipping.  At that kind of money, I think you'd be happier with a used Sheraton; or, if you want the p90s, a used Casino.  Plus, if you find it's not for you, the resale on an epi is much higher and easier to accomplish.  There are other alternatives below that range that are also very nice, including the Hamer Echotone, Peavey's JF series, the Washburn HB30, and the Ibanez Artcore AS series.  Or, you can save up a little more, and get a solid semi-hollow like the Viking or the higher-end artcores, etc.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3405 on: 28 Sep 2011, 02:34 »

Also +1000 for a white semi hollow gtr with no fucking gold hardware.

Basically if you don't agree with this then you suck and you probably stomp puppies into mush and force feed it to kindergartners.
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« Reply #3406 on: 28 Sep 2011, 14:44 »

Fuck nickel/chromeplated stuff, man. I use black hardware for everything (except gold, which I also like an awful lot).


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« Reply #3407 on: 29 Sep 2011, 07:36 »

Fuck nickel/chromeplated stuff, man. I use black hardware for everything (except gold, which I also like an awful lot).

There's something wired wrong in your brain.
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« Reply #3408 on: 29 Sep 2011, 10:34 »

So "knobs" then. We're not talking knobs.

WE AIN'T TALKIN BOUT KNOBS, WE TALKIN PRACTICE.
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« Reply #3409 on: 01 Oct 2011, 05:07 »

Fuck nickel/chromeplated stuff, man. I use black hardware for everything (except gold, which I also like an awful lot).

There's something wired wrong in your brain.

There's a lot wired wrong in my brain. Be more specific.
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« Reply #3410 on: 01 Oct 2011, 08:07 »

Well, if you insist, it's the fact that you don't like chromed hardware or Fenders.
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« Reply #3411 on: 01 Oct 2011, 16:08 »

Well, if you insist, it's the fact that you don't like chromed hardware or Fenders.

I like jazzmasters and jags despite the fenderyness. When I get to building one it'll definitely have black hardware and a double-locking trem on it, though.  :|

Also, I apparently now own a 5150 head. Now I'm gonna have to get a cab too.  :psyduck:

edit: I did own a strat for a few months, but it really wasn't my thing.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3412 on: 01 Oct 2011, 16:31 »

Yeah but what were you even doing with a Strat in the first place, those things blow ass unless you are Jimi Hendrix or Mark Knopfler, there are no exceptions
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« Reply #3413 on: 02 Oct 2011, 06:51 »

Yeah but what were you even doing with a Strat in the first place, those things blow ass unless you are Jimi Hendrix or Mark Knopfler, there are no exceptions

Uh, I tuned it down to A standard/ drop G# and stuff (and pretended i was Yngwie for a while, that didn't go well). Then I traded it for something way more awesome.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3414 on: 02 Oct 2011, 07:49 »

Also, a jazzmaster with a double locking trem should be considered heresy.
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« Reply #3415 on: 02 Oct 2011, 09:17 »

Well yeah, but if Fender can get away with pissing on their legacy, so can I.
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« Reply #3416 on: 02 Oct 2011, 09:38 »

That was on my mind too, but Gibson make it way too easy to joke about 'em.

I love Gibson- and Fender-styled instruments, but not the companies themselves. I'd take a G&L or Heritage over those brands any day.
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« Reply #3417 on: 02 Oct 2011, 16:28 »

just ordered a nobles odr-1

and a deluxe reverb to go along with it... : )
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« Reply #3418 on: 03 Oct 2011, 01:37 »

I went Big Spender Crazy over this weekend. I bought:

- BOSS RV-5 Digital Reverb pedal
- BOSS OD-2 overdrive, old beat-up thing.
- EHX Full Double Tracking Effect pedal. (Apparently some sort of really fast, single-repeat slapback delay meant to simulate doubletracking. Should be interesting to fool around with!9

- Fender Esquire-style tele pickguard, white.
- Strat pickguard, single hum, single Volume.
- 4 500k pots
- 2 input jacks
- Black tele style bridge for humbucker
- Chrome hipshot hardtail bridge, which I'm planning to put on my Tele.
- 2 sets of Gotoh Vintage-style tuners.
- An extra neck for my Tele.
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« Reply #3419 on: 03 Oct 2011, 06:57 »

Also, I apparently now own a 5150 head. Now I'm gonna have to get a cab too.  :psyduck:
I have a 5150 combo. They are awesome amps. Mine has not been on since I got tha Orange TT/Avatar setup.My wife did not like it though. But I am totally ok with that since she bought my citrusy goodness amp rig.

So my fellows, a bit of sage advice from the doombilly.

If you are going to marry your bass player. Make sure he/she is the picky type that will ask you when you are dealing with your broke ass hand-me-down gtrs/amps what you "really need."

Also Mark Bass makes some solid @#$% bass gear. Although spending hours trying to make a 1x12" combo and additional 1x12 speaker cab sound like an ampeg SVT + 8x10 might be lunacy. I suppose if you use a pick and play round wounds it wouldn't be as hard.

Now a question: Is my mom's ex-minivan more or less punk rock than the 1990 F250 Diesel?
Heated seats are trüpunx, right?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3420 on: 03 Oct 2011, 09:08 »

Even though I am a big diesel fan, a hand-me-down minivan is probably the truest punk-rock transportation possible.
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« Reply #3421 on: 03 Oct 2011, 15:11 »

Even though I am a big diesel fan, a hand-me-down minivan is probably the truest punk-rock transportation possible.
Yeah, nice and (sub)urban. An F250 has more of a C&W vibe... ;)  Though F250s and F350s are kind of awesome in a monster-truck-madness sort of way (They were sold in Aus until... the mid-2000's I think).
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« Reply #3422 on: 03 Oct 2011, 16:05 »

We make plenty of diesels in America! We just happen to put all of them in trucks. That doesn't stop me from being a huge fan of the technology, though. The BMW 335d is a fantasy car of mine, though way too expensive.

Back on topic... tuathal, what is it about Strats that makes them better at finger picking? Is it just the fretboard radius (which is not unique), or something else?
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« Reply #3423 on: 03 Oct 2011, 16:17 »

I think there's a VW Jetta diesel as well, but yeah, it's pretty much all trucks over here.
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« Reply #3424 on: 03 Oct 2011, 17:06 »

hey guys, on pretty much any amp i've tried i notice the bass give out really quickly at the higher volume settings -- the speaker seems like it's fluttering inside the cabinet. Does that make sense? It sounds like ass and I'm guessing it's user error, but it could just be that I'm cranking all the amps too hard.
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« Reply #3425 on: 03 Oct 2011, 17:45 »

So...I talk a lot about wanting to build and never do, but I realize I could pull this off using existing stuff for under $350:



PLUS



EQUALS

well..No one's ever made one, imagine a Swing-bronita.

But Warmoth makes a 25.5" scale, rear routed Swinger body. You go from there.
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« Reply #3426 on: 04 Oct 2011, 04:59 »

Swing-bronita.

Doo eet. Swingers are sexy, La Cabronitas are sexy. You're bound to get great results, uh, or at least results. Maybe.
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« Reply #3427 on: 04 Oct 2011, 05:00 »

better than a jazzmaster, tele

Nope.
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« Reply #3428 on: 04 Oct 2011, 08:34 »

Swing-bronita.

Doo eet. Swingers are sexy, La Cabronitas are sexy. You're bound to get great results, uh, or at least results. Maybe.

I've been having serious Cabronita GAS lately. I saw both a normal and reversed ("Borracho") JM shaped one built on OSG, and a P-Bass version from the Custom Shop, figure I might as well go original as well.  Once that money from the Red Sox tickets comes back, I'm going to get the neck and start this up.

The original idea in my head was Strat shaped, but Swingers are WAY fucking cooler. I'm planning on snagging an un-routed white Mustang guard when I get the body from Warmoth and cutting it down for added effect.

edit: Just because I could use input here..what do you guys think re: color? I'm leaning towards something nearish Surf Green, and just putting a really light coat on with no clear, so it'll wear hard as it gets played.
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« Reply #3429 on: 04 Oct 2011, 09:05 »

Regarding diesels, we have a few diesel cars here, we just don't make them here. That was the distinction I was making. :)

Regarding color for the Swingerita, I like your Surf Green idea, but how about a thin black undercoat? The wear on that should be pretty sweet.

EDIT: Or how about black over surf green?
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« Reply #3430 on: 04 Oct 2011, 09:09 »

I've already got two black guitars, so I'd rather go a little different. Green over black might work cool, though.
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« Reply #3431 on: 04 Oct 2011, 09:13 »

Other possible idea: something close to Inca Silver:



Just remembered I actually have a hardtail bridge and flat-top Tele knobs sitting around, so there's like $25 bucks I won't have to spend. I think the bridge is topload only, though.

Finish aside, here are my specs for the Swingbronita (it sounds more ridiculous than Swingerita, sorry):
-GFS amber finished Strat neck, maple fretboard (someday I'll throw a proper Fender 'stock on it)
-GFS Nashville Retrotron mini-bucker
-250k pots
-Fender-style old school tuners (I've never used split-shaft before, that'll be a fun one)
-Body will be poplar, rear-routed, and cut for a side jack, and volume and tone knobs
-single play Mustang guard that'll be chopped down more into a Cabronita-ish shape and sun-aged (provided it ever, ever stops raining)
-Apparently a topload hardtail bridge, though the body will be drilled string-through (eventual upgrade)
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« Reply #3432 on: 04 Oct 2011, 10:09 »

I dunno about 250k pots for a humbucker though, that's bound to get really muddy. Go for 500/550k.

Inca Silver is pretty cool, although sonic blue, surf green or shell pink would be the tits.
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« Reply #3433 on: 04 Oct 2011, 10:34 »

The F-2fiddy does have a serious C/W vibe. Cuz it's a LARIAT XLT. But yeah, the topper kind of leaks.

I will keep it though. When we have to bring EVERYTHING teh Mercury Monterrey aint gonna cut it.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #3434 on: 06 Oct 2011, 10:31 »

Yeah but what were you even doing with a Strat in the first place, those things blow ass unless you are Jimi Hendrix or Mark Knopfler, there are no exceptions

Heresy. I basically am Mark Knopfler, so to hell with your Strat snobbery!

(If I'm honest its a pretty nice 50s Reissue and only cost me £250 and was the first upgrade from my beginners guitar and is sunburst and pretty lovely. The neck seems thinner than a lot of other Strats and Teles that I've played. But I'm never going to NOT want a Mustang or Jaguar, sadly)
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« Reply #3435 on: 12 Oct 2011, 10:32 »

I don't see why the Modern Player line is getting so much flak, have you SEEN the Thinline Tele?



That is PERFECT in pretty much all conceivable ways, including the $449 price tag.
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« Reply #3436 on: 12 Oct 2011, 11:01 »

Holy cuntshit, a semi-hollow Tele with P-90s. I'M SOLD
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« Reply #3437 on: 12 Oct 2011, 13:34 »

That looks interesting, indeed. What are the naysayers nay-saying?
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« Reply #3438 on: 12 Oct 2011, 14:20 »

That looks interesting, indeed. What are the naysayers nay-saying?

The naysayers are bitching that they're made in China and have the Fender name.

Also because there's a Marauder in a the series that doesn't look like either of the prototypes from the mid 60s. I don't see the big deal, they were prototypes. There was never an actual production model.
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« Reply #3439 on: 12 Oct 2011, 15:04 »

I certainly prefer Japanese guitars to american ones. China has been producing really high quality guitars for a while now as well, just look at the entire semi-hollow Ibanez line.
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« Reply #3440 on: 12 Oct 2011, 16:41 »

It's my understanding that Fender uses Squier to test the manufacturing capabilities of a factory (country). Once they are up to snuff, the are allowed to manufacture Fender-brand guitars. Apparently, China has been deemed good-enough.

Can I start being snooty about my MIM strat now?  :-D
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« Reply #3441 on: 12 Oct 2011, 18:30 »

I'm just going to leave this here for you gents:

http://www.fender.jp/products/

Fender Japan is so awesome.
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« Reply #3442 on: 12 Oct 2011, 19:08 »

Dude, even I know that.
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« Reply #3443 on: 13 Oct 2011, 09:18 »

The dorian mode. It is fucking wet sex with three supermodels of ambiguous gender.
Also, I like guitars.
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« Reply #3444 on: 13 Oct 2011, 09:28 »

Actually, dorian mode sounds kinda awkward and uncomfortable after that description.
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« Reply #3445 on: 13 Oct 2011, 09:49 »

I certainly prefer Japanese guitars to american ones. China has been producing really high quality guitars for a while now as well, just look at the entire semi-hollow Ibanez line.

Yeah, I still want that trans-black stripped down 335 thing they just came out with, YOW.
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« Reply #3446 on: 13 Oct 2011, 15:54 »

Also because there's a Marauder in a the series that doesn't look like either of the prototypes from the mid 60s. I don't see the big deal, they were prototypes. There was never an actual production model.

The big deal: it looks like shit and has a pretty retarded triple-bucker in the bridge. What the fuck, Fender, are you Paul McCartney and Vox now? GTFO.
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« Reply #3447 on: 13 Oct 2011, 15:58 »



I see no point in having a triple-coil pickup when you're just gonna put a 3-way toggle and a single volume and single tone. Just put a humbucker in there and stop pretending you've come up with some neat innovation

Most importantly, FUCK YOU
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« Reply #3448 on: 13 Oct 2011, 18:20 »

It's actually a 5-way selector switch that lets you toggle which coils on the Triplebucker you're using.
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« Reply #3449 on: 13 Oct 2011, 21:23 »

I see no point in having a triple-coil pickup when you're just gonna put a 3-way toggle

It's a five-way. The fucking dumb part is that you can't select neck JM pup + bottom two coils as bridge pup. It's JM, JM + inner coil, inner coil, inner + middle, middle + outer (bridge HB).
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