Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 381481 times)

Patrick · « **Reply #4150 on:** 04 Oct 2012, 10:03 »

It's like the thing was built specifically for me to hate it

valley_parade · « **Reply #4151 on:** 04 Oct 2012, 11:24 »

We had this argument about 7 and 8 strings way back in the day, let me somewhat reanimate it.

What the fuck is the point of fanned frets?

Radical AC · « **Reply #4152 on:** 04 Oct 2012, 11:39 »

They're supposed to be ergonomic based on the shape of your hand and how it moves. This concept is not unlike toe socks or fanny packs.

idontunderstand · « **Reply #4153 on:** 04 Oct 2012, 12:08 »

Um no, they give more accurate tuning. Maybe you're thinking of twisted necks.

It's still FUGLY though. I hope Jeph doesn't see this btw.

Patrick · « **Reply #4154 on:** 05 Oct 2012, 14:27 »

It also increases sustain on the lower notes because of the fact that the scale length of the lower strings is longer, meaning that there's more mass pushing each note out.

Who the fuck needs more than 10s of sustain anyway? Certainly not me, but then again, I don't exactly shred.

IDMG · « **Reply #4155 on:** 05 Oct 2012, 23:59 »

Everyone because thicker strings are the answer to all life's problems.

And fuck, I'd buy that monstrosity if it didn't cost a significant portion of what I make in a year.

warcabbit · « **Reply #4156 on:** 06 Oct 2012, 06:41 »

Where's he selling, anyhow? I'm assuming ebay, but I don't know his name.

Speaking of that sort of thing, how do you feel about reversed headstocks, like Jimi, the Thunderbirds, and this Xaviere?

Same sort of result as a fanned fret or not?

I have to admit, the guitar I have with the longest sustain is Mr. Malden's Subhuman. I once put it down after a song, then looked around to see where that noise was coming from... oh hell, it's still playing low E. It's through-body strung, and... hm.

That might explain it. The length past the tune-o-matic is really long, and it's especially long on the Es.
I might have learned something here I had not previously considered.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4157 on:** 06 Oct 2012, 11:03 »

Quote from: Patrick on 05 Oct 2012, 14:27

Who the fuck needs more than 10s of sustain anyway? Certainly not me, but then again, I don't exactly shred.

Sunn O))), but those dudes use LPs and Travis Beans.

warcabbit · « **Reply #4158 on:** 06 Oct 2012, 19:32 »

Up to 2009 in the thread, and I've just learned that Alto Music is actually a big-deal music store. I was there a few weeks ago. It's a drive north, but it's near a friend's house.
Very impressive place. But NAMM dealer of the year? Woah.

By the way, is anyone here good at figuring out wiring jobs? I'm really having trouble figuring out how I should do the rebuild on my Canvas.

godinpants · « **Reply #4159 on:** 07 Oct 2012, 17:41 »

Hey, this thread and forum. Good to see you are still a thing.

I have sold all my guitars except my Rickenbacker bass.

pwhodges · « **Reply #4160 on:** 07 Oct 2012, 23:16 »

Welcome back!

Does that mean that you are playing less, or that you're simply concentrating on the bass?

godinpants · « **Reply #4161 on:** 07 Oct 2012, 23:46 »

Thanks!
It means I'm focusing on the bass, and spent the money on modular synth gear.

Lummer · « **Reply #4162 on:** 08 Oct 2012, 02:19 »

I've finally gotten hold of the elusive Peavey Rockmaster preamp!
I love this thing. The Ultra channel just sounds like the entire planet coming apart at the seams from Satan pounding it with a continent-sized hammer. Very good, I must say.

Lummer · « **Reply #4163 on:** 08 Oct 2012, 02:26 »

Quote from: idontunderstand on 04 Oct 2012, 12:08

Um no, they give more accurate tuning. Maybe you're thinking of twisted necks.

It's still FUGLY though. I hope Jeph doesn't see this btw.

Tuning, yes, but primarily intonation is the thing it's aimed at improving. Thicker strings are all well and good, but with extremely low tunings such as with 8-strings, the intonation can become less than ideal on 25,5" inch scales or below.
Along with that, high strings become needlessly uncomfortable to play to some people, for instance a .10 high E on a 30" will be a bitch and a half to play to most normal people.

Thus, multiscale instruments.

idontunderstand · « **Reply #4164 on:** 08 Oct 2012, 03:42 »

Ah yeah, intonation. Google translate wouldn't give me the right word.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4165 on:** 10 Oct 2012, 10:15 »

Grumble. Eastwood special edition Classic 12. Why don't I have $550 to spend on this? There's only 24 made.

Fuck you, bills.

warcabbit · « **Reply #4166 on:** 10 Oct 2012, 18:20 »

Not quite the same, I know.

Edit: Wait. Is that a 12 string? Wow. The angle fooled me. Wowwwwww.

C'mon, you can pay it off on the credit card over a few months, can't you?

valley_parade · « **Reply #4167 on:** 10 Oct 2012, 18:26 »

I'm broke and unemployed, so uh no.

warcabbit · « **Reply #4168 on:** 10 Oct 2012, 20:10 »

Well, I find that a pretty good reason not to. Bummer. Best of luck, man. Seasonal employment is picking up, so there's that.

Patrick · « **Reply #4169 on:** 12 Oct 2012, 02:12 »

I played in two bands at a show tonight. First time I've ever done that. Didn't think it'd be so tiring (I play several hours at all my jam nights), but it's two completely different dynamics, and switching between the two modes is pretty exhausting.

PS My 70s Schecter P-bass is the best bass ever, it is so responsive and perfect and the action is impeccable and it looks badass (natural finish w/ red tort) and yeah fuck yeah

warcabbit · « **Reply #4170 on:** 12 Oct 2012, 03:29 »

Hey, guy who sold me the Canvas is selling a Wilshire. Do people like Wilshires here? It's $240, comes with a gig bag. I believe that qualifies as 'dirt cheap'.

Patrick · « **Reply #4171 on:** 15 Oct 2012, 10:54 »

Do you mean an Epi Wilshire? 'Cause those are sexy as fuck.

warcabbit · « **Reply #4172 on:** 16 Oct 2012, 03:29 »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EPIPHONE-LIMITED-EDITION-WILSHIRE-PHANT-O-MATIC-with-GIG-BAG-JJTB46-/390481006395?pt=Guitar&hash=item5aea7b4f3b

Yeeep. Seems to be the Frank Iero limited edition one. Eighteen hours left.

There was a Wildkat a few days ago, and another Wilshire.

Patrick · « **Reply #4173 on:** 16 Oct 2012, 12:09 »

Guys

Stop putting a T in that word there is no T in that word

Seriously

warcabbit · « **Reply #4174 on:** 16 Oct 2012, 17:52 »

Man, this t-removing machine I got from that old game sure is handy. Maybe I'll put a rabbit in it next.

Kwaping · « **Reply #4175 on:** 17 Oct 2012, 08:09 »

+

= WILTSHIRE

Patrick · « **Reply #4176 on:** 17 Oct 2012, 12:37 »

≠ GUITAR

valley_parade · « **Reply #4177 on:** 17 Oct 2012, 13:19 »

Wiltshire:

Wilshire:

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #4178 on:** 17 Oct 2012, 17:57 »

Yeah, I was seriously considering buying a used one I saw a few years back, and then I actually played it...
The dude from Ratatat gets a fucking great tone out of his, but most things sound good when you run it through an AC30 cranked within an inch of it's life.

Patrick · « **Reply #4179 on:** 18 Oct 2012, 02:43 »

Everybody knows AC30s are made out of magic

PS Shane post the link to that amp thing you showed me earlier

valley_parade · « **Reply #4180 on:** 18 Oct 2012, 08:29 »

Oh, yeah!

Jennings, the company that originally made Vox back in the 60s, started back up after Vox was sold to Korg. They make handwired greatness and Tonebender clones now.

http://www.jmiamplification.com/

valley_parade · « **Reply #4181 on:** 18 Oct 2012, 23:27 »

Oh bollocks. All Cyclones should get this mod. And then be given to me.

Lummer · « **Reply #4182 on:** 19 Oct 2012, 01:36 »

Given my abject hatred fo Neck Pickups, everything about that guitar is WRONG WRONG WRONG WROOOOONG

Patrick · « **Reply #4183 on:** 19 Oct 2012, 02:22 »

Quote from: Lummer on 19 Oct 2012, 01:36

Given my abject hatred fo Hot Rails, everything about that guitar is WRONG WRONG WRONG WROOOOONG

Tailored to my own preferences, but then again, I'm one of those grumpy guys who likes to think he's an old man

valley_parade · « **Reply #4184 on:** 19 Oct 2012, 07:18 »

I didn't mean specifically Hot Rails, I just meant Musicmastered.

Patrick · « **Reply #4185 on:** 19 Oct 2012, 15:01 »

I don't know why you like Musicmasters so much, dude, I almost never use only the neck pickup.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4186 on:** 19 Oct 2012, 17:58 »

IDMG · « **Reply #4187 on:** 19 Oct 2012, 19:23 »

So I got a custom made Rat clone with the LM308 chip and some bass friendly features:
http://imgur.com/a/Qazqb

and it is amazing.

Patrick · « **Reply #4188 on:** 22 Oct 2012, 13:29 »

Man Shane I can get that sound using the neck pickup on an instrument that gives me other options too, is all I'm saying.

Melodic · « **Reply #4189 on:** 22 Oct 2012, 14:38 »

I fucking love my neck pickup. The bridge setting on my SG is way too brittle on its own, although it's great for surfy stuff. I would probably never get a bridge-pup only guitar.

Bearer · « **Reply #4190 on:** 22 Oct 2012, 20:03 »

If you really want to get technical, you could make the argument that more pickups = more magnetic force on the strings (as well as less wood in the body) which affects their vibration. This does actually make a slight difference in the guitar's overall tone. I'd argue that given two identical guitars, say a Les Paul, with two separate pickup configurations (neck/bridge Vs. Bridge only) the one with just the bridge will have better sustain and more natural overall tone.

Then again, it also might not even be perceptible. There was a DIY thread on TDPRI a while ago outlining a guy who built an exact replica 1959 LP sunburst using period correct metal screws for the pick-guard and who molded his own pickup rings out of some plastic that was deemed hazardous years ago since he said it would affect his tone.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/194271-1959-les-paul-build.html

Actually, it's an awesome build thread and you should all check it out. Seriously, this guy is master at the craft.

Patrick · « **Reply #4191 on:** 24 Oct 2012, 11:56 »

I love my bridge pickup, it's so snarly and bright and it pairs perfectly with the hollow birch body's full fat resonance. Fuckin' wood and pickups and shit all having a say in what creates tone...

Melodic · « **Reply #4192 on:** 24 Oct 2012, 15:48 »

I call total bullshit on anyone that can notice the difference between a guitar with, and the same guitar without, a bridge pickup. For me, the added versatility of having two pickups is totally invaluable, but even if it wasn't I can't really get behind the whole "moar tone" thing.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4193 on:** 25 Oct 2012, 12:37 »

Spekkin' 'a one pickup guitars, look what Eastwood's just released:

Kwaping · « **Reply #4194 on:** 25 Oct 2012, 17:48 »

Now there's a single-pickup guitar that I can get behind.

Patrick · « **Reply #4195 on:** 26 Oct 2012, 02:37 »

Agreeed. Sum slide sex waiting to happen

Thrillho · « **Reply #4196 on:** 29 Oct 2012, 10:56 »

I know I'm late to this party, but neck pickups are the tits. I've got a Squier strat which I use exclusively because of the absolute caramel tone I get out of the neck pickup. Also, any Weezer song works better with a neck pickup in my experience...

IDMG · « **Reply #4197 on:** 29 Oct 2012, 12:51 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 29 Oct 2012, 10:56

Also, any Weezer song works better by being a different song in my experience...

ftfy.

Thrillho · « **Reply #4198 on:** 29 Oct 2012, 14:05 »

This board really has changed in my absence if people don't like Weezer any more.

Not even Pinkerton???

But then who am I to talk, I listen to their recent stuff. BY CHOICE.

IDMG · « **Reply #4199 on:** 30 Oct 2012, 01:10 »

It's entirely possible that most people here like Weezer and I'm just the asshole on that subject.

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