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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1450 on: 30 Mar 2010, 03:28 »

It has the spirit of Chuck Shuldiner in it, he couldn't find a Stealth or a Mockingbird. Enshrine it among skulls, blown-out amps, and broken guitar strings, remove it only to rock the fuck out.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1451 on: 30 Mar 2010, 04:01 »

I sure hope you're right.

Eitherway, this fucker is probably gonna be my new main guitar, unless I snag a USA BC Rich or something.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1452 on: 30 Mar 2010, 04:32 »

Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Unless... there is a ton of hype surrounding the guitar industry that makes people think a guitar has to be made out of 1000 year old tee pee frames cut from the center of now extinct species of trees and hand assembled by blue eyed, English speaking, virgin dwarfs to get great tone.


On a slightly less sarcastic note... The original Dano's were made from plywood.  Poplar at that (hardly considered a tone wood) if my memory serves correctly.  Depending on your definition of "plywood" I could point out a whole lot of other instruments that are too.  Not much is actually a solid slab of wood, anywhere.  And usually for good reason.   Also, ever since Chip Todd and Harland Peavey brought the concept of CNC machines into instrument making, the playing field has been somewhat leveled on what we would define as 'quality craftsmanship' in terms of your neck.  No longer do you need a skilled luthier/woodworker with spokeshaves to carve a great neck.  A CAD program and a CNC machine will get you any profile that you want and make it flawless.   Arguably the nicest guitar I own in terms of quality, craftsmanship, and overall fantastic everything is a Korean made instrument that you can pick up brand new for five or six hundred bucks.  I actually think it's considerably better than my PRS.

tl,dr; If you like how it plays, play it.  If you're not in the vintage/re-seller market names on headstocks and country of origin are largely irrelevant for anything made in the last 20ish years.
 
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1453 on: 30 Mar 2010, 04:36 »

My point exactly. I'm not even sure if I want to upgrade the pickups. They sound perfectly fine for what I'm going for. I am sort of considering slapping a newer, higher-quality floyd on it.
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« Reply #1454 on: 30 Mar 2010, 11:31 »

Whats scary is how well a Warlock actually sits on most peoples hands. its a meaty guitar, but it's actually got a useable body.

it still sucks and I want to kill it.... but... you'd think a body that stupid would be miserable. and it isn't!
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« Reply #1455 on: 30 Mar 2010, 16:04 »

Yeah my parker body is one piece of mahogany, but that is about the least interesting feature. I agree if it does well by you then good-o. Fuck all that other dumb shit.

I would like to take this moment to commend SKB cases. My dumb ass slid my vintage F-250 seat back into one of the latches on my wife's bass case. I sent them an email and they sent me two latches, plenty of screws extra keys (TSA002). FREE. Not since Sperzel sent me free hardware for a part I lost on a tuner have I gotten that kind of customer service.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1456 on: 01 Apr 2010, 18:15 »

If only bc rich could do more of this:

http://rebelmusic.no/showExtraImages.do?articleId=1434139

The finish is eerily similar to my my own ltd, but it's all good
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1457 on: 02 Apr 2010, 05:58 »

Gold hardware = UN has designated this as a aesthetic war crime.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1458 on: 02 Apr 2010, 10:09 »

my dano's a solid-body but it sounds gorgeous. fuck craftsmanship!
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1459 on: 02 Apr 2010, 10:37 »

Well fuck me... I didn't know Danelectro even made guitars out of real wood.   Plywood, masonite, formica, sure.   But actual slabs of wood?  Learn something new everyday.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1460 on: 02 Apr 2010, 13:13 »

So I just came back from the store where I picked up for my son a Jackson Randy Rhoades "V" for his ninth birthday.

Now I have to hide it for a week and a half and not play it.  :(
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1461 on: 02 Apr 2010, 16:01 »

Hey, speaking of my Dano, I just swapped out my .10-.46s for some .13-.56 flat-wound chrome beauties. Holy shit I love this guitar.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1462 on: 02 Apr 2010, 18:20 »

I need to get some 13s on my Epi. Those should be good for tuning down as far as drop-b, right?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1463 on: 02 Apr 2010, 18:21 »

So I just came back from the store where I picked up for my son a Jackson Randy Rhoades "V" for his ninth birthday.

Now I have to hide it for a week and a half and not play it.  :(

you are the best father
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1464 on: 02 Apr 2010, 18:37 »

he is only the best father if he proceeds to teach his son minor threat songs.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1465 on: 02 Apr 2010, 18:43 »

The thing about Minor Threat songs is that to play them right you have to play real-for-real barre chords.  I don't know if his hands are big enough on a full scale instrument.  He's been playing a little kids guitar for the last three years.   

Does it count that I've watched my daughter gig while she was wearing a Minor Threat shirt?  And that I got her into them?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1466 on: 03 Apr 2010, 11:15 »

the fact that you realize yr sons hands are not big enough to play minor threat songs makes you the best father.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1467 on: 03 Apr 2010, 11:48 »

shoulda passed on bigger genes
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1468 on: 03 Apr 2010, 12:22 »

Gold hardware = UN has designated this as a aesthetic war crime.

Really?  I think it looks cool on some guitars.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1469 on: 03 Apr 2010, 19:27 »

I agree.  Someday I would like a White Falcon.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1470 on: 03 Apr 2010, 20:54 »

Guys, I made eight dollars busking downtown today!  Fuck yeah, go me!

('Cause it was two more dollars than we needed to buy weed and we did it in an hour and a half!)
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1471 on: 04 Apr 2010, 09:32 »

Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Because Korea actually makes good guitars.
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« Reply #1472 on: 04 Apr 2010, 10:05 »

Korea is the new Japan, so we can only hope China will become the new Korea. Chinese guitars will probably get a massive price-increase though.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1473 on: 05 Apr 2010, 04:23 »

Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Because Korea actually makes good guitars.

MAKES, nowadays, yes. But not in the early 90s. Not out of plywood.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1474 on: 08 Apr 2010, 04:34 »

So I've got a little extra money right now and the urge to help the economy by indulging my G.A.S.  (I tell myself it's the right thing to do).

What to buy?  I've been thinking about getting something totally shredtastic and metal-as-fuck as my collection tends to lean towards more traditional guitars, but I've also thought about getting  a Dan Armstrong or a Gretsch Duo-Jet.

On the other hand, though my house looks like a guitar graveyard already, an area that I am sorely lacking is amplification.  Due to a sell-off years ago, all I really play through is a little Vox combo amp, which is wholly inadequate for gigging.  Perhaps it's time for a head and a half cab again and that might motivate me to play for someone other than my dogs.

I'm open to suggestions.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1475 on: 08 Apr 2010, 06:34 »

Buy the biggest box you can find that says "orange" on it.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1476 on: 08 Apr 2010, 07:17 »

I must confess... I was looking at the Orange website this morning.  It's a definite thought.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1477 on: 08 Apr 2010, 10:16 »

ORANGE!
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1478 on: 08 Apr 2010, 15:35 »

Buy the biggest box you can find that says "orange" on it.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1479 on: 08 Apr 2010, 18:18 »

Or get a Tiny Terror. I've heard nothing bad about them. Then all you need is a decent cab.
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« Reply #1480 on: 08 Apr 2010, 20:43 »

Or a Vox Night Train.  I have heard equally no bad things about them.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1481 on: 09 Apr 2010, 06:33 »

You should get a Peavey. They name their speakers things like "Black Widow." How could you go wrong?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1482 on: 09 Apr 2010, 06:48 »

I was kinda hoping to give Bolt amps a try, but after a (very) little research they don't seem to be ready for the general public yet.     Too bad for them.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1483 on: 09 Apr 2010, 07:35 »

http://www.jcacircuits.com/

I know the guy who makes these.  He's a real mad scientist, and absolutely knows his stuff.  I can't even begin to describe how perfect his amps are.  If you can (and it's definitely a real stretch cause I think he makes them to order), definitely try out his golden ratio.  Fucking mind-blowing.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1484 on: 09 Apr 2010, 14:48 »

I was kinda hoping to give Bolt amps a try, but after a (very) little research they don't seem to be ready for the general public yet.     Too bad for them.

Or yknow...get a used Sunn.
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« Reply #1485 on: 09 Apr 2010, 22:31 »

Works for those Sunn 0))) fellows.
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« Reply #1486 on: 09 Apr 2010, 23:13 »

Sunn should really look into giving away a black hooded cloak with every half-stack they sell. Instant sales boom!

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« Reply #1487 on: 09 Apr 2010, 23:47 »

They haven't actually made Sunn amps since Fender bought them out in the 90s. =/
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« Reply #1488 on: 09 Apr 2010, 23:57 »

Is there an up to date tally of how many brands Fender has bought out and discontinued?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1489 on: 10 Apr 2010, 00:06 »

There was, but fender bought the website and stopped maintaining it.
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« Reply #1490 on: 10 Apr 2010, 00:28 »

Is there an up to date tally of how many brands Fender has bought out and discontinued?

Are we counting how they moved Guild's electric line first to Dearmond, then Squier, and then discontinued it?
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« Reply #1491 on: 10 Apr 2010, 01:59 »

Huh, I always thought that it was the other way around.

Was the Starfire was a Guild model turned DeArmond or a DeArmond model turned Guild?
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« Reply #1492 on: 10 Apr 2010, 05:20 »

The Starfire was Guild first. Guild reissued them I think riiiiight after Fender bought them, and Dearmond was used as a budget line for Guild for a few years.
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« Reply #1493 on: 10 Apr 2010, 09:21 »

That's dumb. I've seen and played quite a few DeArmonds and they're really fucking solid guitars. Beautiful, too.
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« Reply #1494 on: 10 Apr 2010, 13:52 »

Yeah, everything I've heard about the Dearmond models was extremely positive.

I played that Ibanez AMF73 today through a Vox AC4TV.

I need both of those. It sounded perfect together. And the ceramic humbuckers weren't as overly powerful as I'd imagined.
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« Reply #1495 on: 10 Apr 2010, 15:11 »

Hey guys I got a Behringer Digital Delay pedals

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« Reply #1496 on: 10 Apr 2010, 15:43 »

Alright, so the results of days of shopping:

I went to Guitar Center as well as two locally owned music stores and played about 15 different heads through about ten different cabs.   Bar none my absolute favorite was the Egnater Tourmaster 4100 head through an Egnater 4x12 cabinet.   I probably would have bought this rig exactly except that about halfway through my shopping I decided to buy my kid a Fender American Deluxe Jazz Bass. And I just bought another one of my kids a Jackson for his birthday that I haven't even given him yet.  Consequently, I decided that if I could find something I was happy with that was cheaper, I was going to go with that.

 Tried both the Orange  tiny terror and the Vox heads.   Both awesome, but I really wanted something bigger.  I also wanted to have matched head and speaker and couldn't do that locally.   I tried a couple of solid states and hybrids like the new Line 6 head with all the UV lights, but really felt like I wanted  pure tubes.  I've already got a modeling amp, I've got a digitech modeling station, I even have a VG strat for fuck sake, so I wanted to go natural.  Tried a couple of Marshall configurations.  Tried a Crate Blue Voodoo and gave that one some serious consideration.  Basically I plugged into everything I could.  Even took a couple of my own guitars in for the 'final showdown.'

Given my odd predilection towards certain guitar brands, it probably isn't too surprising that I did end up going with a Peavey configuration.  No vypyr or anything silly, just a very basic ValveKing VK100 and 4x12 cab.  It really did end up being my second favorite and the fact that the two together was pretty cheap turned out to not be a bad thing either.   A nice clean channel that I can put a little dirt into if I want, and a lead channel that gives me all the gain that I want.   Nice and versatile, good sound, loud as a freight train.  I'm pretty happy.

TL,DR; Fender American Deluxe Jazz Bass and a Peavey VK100 and 4x12 cab.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #1497 on: 14 Apr 2010, 18:03 »

Or get a Tiny Terror. I've heard nothing bad about them. Then all you need is a decent cab.
heh, remember when I got my Tiny Terror and QC board helped me choose between open and closed back Avatar cabinets. <sigh> good times.
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« Reply #1498 on: 17 Apr 2010, 17:25 »

Also Guitar Thread. Um, don't mind my BONER.
http://www.kauerguitars.com/instruments/daylighter/daylighter-express
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« Reply #1499 on: 18 Apr 2010, 12:45 »

My lord that's fucking gorgeous. Sounds pretty nice, too.
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