Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 397954 times)

Kwaping · « **Reply #2050 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 13:09 »

Quote from: Radical AC on 18 Nov 2010, 12:21

But, there is still a reason they have been around forever, and everyone copies them. They're versatile and get the job done.

^^^ That.

First of all, I have one guitar, and it's a 335-clone. Very not-strat. I'd like something different from that, and the strat I mentioned felt and sounded good when I tried it. I'm not trying to be original, and I definitely don't have the budget for a boutique guitar or the skill to warrant one. I'm just looking for a solidbody that's very versatile, so I won't have to keep buying new guitars (yeah I know, good fantasy huh).

Ideally, I'd hold out for one of those to come onto the used market at half price so I can turn around and resell it for no loss if it doesn't work out, but "GAS + surprise money" is a hell of a drug.

Bearer · « **Reply #2051 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 14:10 »

There is a 1970's 2 pickup Gibson Nighthawk at a local shop going for $500. It had a broken neck, and the repair job is rather shitty, but still, the guitar is cool as hell.

for reference:

Lupercal · « **Reply #2052 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 14:59 »

Quote from: tuathal on 18 Nov 2010, 08:20

Yeah, but he used solid oak from a piece of his fireplace, iirc..
ie. No saturday morning trip to B&Q.

Yep. Plus the B&Q trip might actually save me from eventually having a would-be reunion tour with Paul Rodgers. And literally nobody would want that.

Nighthawk's are strange; I appreciate that its not an LP, and the broken block inlays, but I guess for a guitar like that its about the sound, rather than looks.

doombilly · « **Reply #2053 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 15:08 »

Be wary of even good neck repairs. Check the tuning very thoroughly, and intonation.

Vuk · « **Reply #2054 on:** 19 Nov 2010, 12:49 »

What do people think of Jazzmasters? I know some of them have a problem with the way the bridge is set up, but are there any models that don't have this?

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2055 on:** 19 Nov 2010, 14:22 »

Jazzmasters=eyesex, but for me, not so much earsex. I'm not really a singlecoil kind of guy, though. The tunomatic-equipped models do not have the bridge issue, but are generally scoffed at by the purists. As long as you don't do constant windmilling, you shouldn't have to much of a problem with it anyway, though.

Patrick · « **Reply #2056 on:** 19 Nov 2010, 15:20 »

The Classic Player Jazzmaster I played at the store in Dublin (California, not Ireland) was a fantastic instrument and I'd love to own one. Regardless of the ToM bridge or any of the other alterations.

I would, however, replace the stock pickups with Novak or Lollar. The CP series has pickups that are wound hotter and use different magnets than the original Jazzmasters did, and Novak and Lollar are also a considerable deal more careful in their manufacturing. I bought a set of Tele pickups from Fender (via Allparts, who didn't give me a receipt in the box) and they came to me broken before I opened them.

If you get an original or vintage reproduction Jazzmaster, the bridge thing is something to note, but can be solved by replacing the original saddles with Mustang bridge saddles, which are available on the Internets. The problem also isn't anywhere near as bad as it is on the Jaguar, and having owned a Jag for roughly two years now, I'll tell you it ain't as bad as it's made out to be.

I will say that I fear the Jazzmaster and Jaguar are going the way of the Strat though. Fender is doing their absolute best to homogenize them both. Fortunately, it kills off a lot of the demand for vintage ones, so their prices are staying relatively low (as compared to vintage Teles or ES-335s).

Also guys last night I saw a guy playing a mid-60s ES-330 and I really had to resist the urge to break my glass over his head and make off with it. Dude can't play for shit anyway, I don't know why he has that thing at all.

greenMonkey · « **Reply #2057 on:** 19 Nov 2010, 19:17 »

Yeah, change out the pickups. My friend has a Classic Player Jazzmaster, and he swapped in some Lollar P90s. It's a pretty spectacular guitar.

Lupercal · « **Reply #2058 on:** 20 Nov 2010, 03:44 »

I hear you. I think that Fender are generally making use of the recent (re)popularity of such guitars. I guess it comes with the fact that many early 90s or grunge/alternative bands are reforming, so the popularity of the offsets are getting bigger again. The Blacktop series just goes to show that they're no longer only focusing on the Strat and Tele, and even Squier has the Jagmaster. I do love the Fender offsets, Jags in particular, but they're a bit out of my price range at the moment. Its a general rule of thumb that you can pick up a Japanese Jag or Jazz for less than the price of a new Reissue, but I think that comes under the "purist" rules.

The new Duo-Sonic however, is apparently pretty meh. I reckon its only a matter of time before we see some "student" kind of models, hell the Blacktops are already priced that way.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2059 on:** 20 Nov 2010, 07:25 »

Quote from: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Nov 2010, 14:22

Jazzmasters=eyesex, but for me, not so much earsex.

Have you ever listened to the American Analog Set?

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2060 on:** 20 Nov 2010, 07:39 »

Yes. Sadly, it's just not for me. I know they sound good, but there just not enough of the chugga chugga and the weedly weedly for me (

)

The closest thing to it i actually have the indie-ears to appreciate would be Modest Mouse-era Johnny Marr. His jag with the filtertrons is hotness.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2061 on:** 20 Nov 2010, 07:41 »

Quote from: Lupercal on 20 Nov 2010, 03:44

The new Duo-Sonic however, is apparently pretty meh. I reckon its only a matter of time before we see some "student" kind of models, hell the Blacktops are already priced that way.

The Squiers? I played one through a Blues Junior a few years back and it sounded great.

The neck felt horrid, though. Thick, plasticy finish.

Christophe · « **Reply #2062 on:** 20 Nov 2010, 23:03 »

Chris Jury of Seattle punk band The Bismarck has been doing a thing where he turns short-scale basses to 6-string bass guitars. He started out on some Squier Bronco Basses, and recently he's done this:

basically what I am saying is

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2063 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 06:27 »

I don't get it

Christophe · « **Reply #2064 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 08:05 »

Most likely Bass VI, considering that it's probably a 30" scale.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2065 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 08:11 »

OK I think I get it now

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2066 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 09:16 »

It might be an optical illusion or the angle of the photo but it really looks like the tailpiece is slightly off-center. But gotdamn do i want one anyways.

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #2067 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 09:19 »

On Jazzmaster Bridges: I've heard some good stuff about Mastery Bridgeshttp://www.masterybridge.com/home.html, although I've heard a few people say they really don't do much of anything. Sonic Youth swears by them, and they definitely know their shit, so I would probably look into them if I owned a jazzmaster.

The Duke · « **Reply #2068 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 11:52 »

Hey guys, I have probably already said this but I'm looking to buy an electric-acoustic in the $500-$1000 range, what are your suggestions?

I've played a buddy's Takamine and my cousin's Ibanez and both were great.

boneykingofnowhere · « **Reply #2069 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 13:43 »

The Korean built Takamines are great. I've had mine for 7 years and it still sounds great.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2070 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 14:43 »

Quote from: tuathal on 21 Nov 2010, 12:19

Get a cheap Gretsch.

I didn't know Gretsch even made acoustics. Not flattops anyway.

A Wet Helmet · « **Reply #2071 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 15:58 »

Hell yeah they do. Despite its stunningly hideous appearance, I have never picked up an acoustic in my life I enjoyed playing as much as a Gretsch Rancher.

I'm not sure I could ever be seen in public with one, but... So loud, so nice.

edwinalink · « **Reply #2072 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 20:50 »

its not that Ugly...

okay... its a fat chick wearing to much make-up... I give you that... but...

Fat chicks will do things other girls wont...

like put up with me.

Vuk · « **Reply #2073 on:** 21 Nov 2010, 21:23 »

Thanks to all who helped out with my Jazzmaster question. Man, those guitars look nice.

Patrick · « **Reply #2074 on:** 23 Nov 2010, 12:27 »

Guys my best friend just found an old, functional, and gorgeous Hofner violin bass for sale for US$700

He is considering selling some of his vinyl collection in order to buy that thing. He played it to check it out, and he said he's never enjoyed playing bass so much in his life.

Tell my friend what to do.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2075 on:** 23 Nov 2010, 12:55 »

If your friend can afford it without having to worry about it then hell yeah, he should buy it. Also, post the NGD ITT.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2076 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 05:51 »

So, I just had the most psychotic, insane, awesome idea last night.

You know that Cabronita that I want to build a clone of? I want to do it two-tone, styled like a Gretsch Anniversary:

No Bigsby, though. I'm not going through the hassle of getting one of those installed again. But yeah...bound body, two-tone paint, green pickguard, and a GFS Retrotron mini-hum at the bridge. I need to contact some dudes on OSG about doing said body for me.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2077 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 10:48 »

Shane you are building most perfect guitar

valley_parade · « **Reply #2078 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 10:53 »

I need to talk to Andrew to see if he can do that body for me. Oh goooooooood that'd be a beast of rock.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2079 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 13:35 »

Andrew is a very skilled, if new luthier. This can only end in fuckyeahs for everyone involved. Also, that colour, in two tone? It is SEX.

doombilly · « **Reply #2080 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 14:06 »

Like SEX, only with more SEXY.

sean · « **Reply #2081 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 14:35 »

shane you should make me one

for free

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2082 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 15:56 »

Guess who just got a POD Pro, complete with floor board? It sounds amazing, which may have something to do with most of the settings having been done by my guitar teacher before he sold it to me. I will need to get some speakers for band practice, though. I figure for shows, most places put it through a soundboard and PA anyway.

Patrick · « **Reply #2083 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 19:04 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 24 Nov 2010, 15:56

Guess who just got a POD Pro

Well buddy it was cool talking to you while it lasted

Quote from: valley_parade on 24 Nov 2010, 05:51

No Bigsby, though. I'm not going through the hassle of getting one of those installed again.

Do it yourself, it just takes a screwdriver and a 1/16" drill bit and it doesn't look like a rat-rod job at all. It is also really really really REALLY SIMPLE

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2084 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 19:25 »

Quote

Well buddy it was cool talking to you while it lasted

Because I'm going to be playing so much, or you can't associate with anyone that uses a POD?

Melodic · « **Reply #2085 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 19:55 »

man that's some astonishingly well-done quote fucking right there

also patrick, i'm getting a pod. whatchu got against dem things

Patrick · « **Reply #2086 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 20:54 »

Well see it is pretty simple. Pods are for people who don't have a sack behind their dong.

Melodic · « **Reply #2087 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 21:00 »

dude i am gonna let this one slide but i've got like twelve sacks back there

just for the record

Radical AC · « **Reply #2088 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 21:11 »

The POD never really appealed to me. You can get some pretty neat sounds out of it and it is cheap, but if I were to go that route I think I would rather go with a full blown rack mount. I also feel like I've spent too much money on boutique pedals to model my sound. Which might be a tad disingenuous because I'm still totally GASing over a Geiger Counter. (Which according to the product page is NOT a modeling pedal)

Quote from: David_Dovey on 24 Nov 2010, 10:48

Shane you are building most perfect guitar

Seriously. Why doesn't anyone already make this? I would spend, like, more than a reasonable amount of money for one. Like I said before, I really want to take this concept and run with it myself. I've never built a guitar before, but I have the internet and a lot of power tools.

I can not wait to see how this turns out.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2089 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 21:21 »

Uh, mine is a rack mount. I don't currently have a rack to mount it into, but it was rack mounted before I bought it. And I'm pretty sure it is the best sound I can get for the budget I was looking at.

Melodic · « **Reply #2090 on:** 24 Nov 2010, 22:38 »

The POD as an amp replacement or rack makes a lot more sense to me than as an effects pedal. The Geiger Counter, on the other hand, makes the most sense because it destroys things (seriously it makes my guitar the happiest thing).

Lummer · « **Reply #2091 on:** 25 Nov 2010, 00:33 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 24 Nov 2010, 21:21

Uh, mine is a rack mount. I don't currently have a rack to mount it into, but it was rack mounted before I bought it. And I'm pretty sure it is the best sound I can get for the budget I was looking at.

Remember, you're gonna need a power amp of some sort if you're going for the Rack method into a cabinet or two. However, most amp heads with an effects loop can do this.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2092 on:** 26 Nov 2010, 08:12 »

Quote from: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Nov 2010, 13:35

Andrew is a very skilled, if new luthier. This can only end in fuckyeahs for everyone involved. Also, that colour, in two tone? It is SEX.

*sad Price Is Right Music*

He is. He's one of my favorite builders on OSG.

The bad news, friends, as I just got a PM back from him..he doesn't have routing templates for mini HBs, and he doesn't know anything about doing binding.

Plus, he's wicked backed up on projects right now.

Patrick · « **Reply #2093 on:** 26 Nov 2010, 12:12 »

Talk to the dude who did them vioLes Pauls dogg

Ballard · « **Reply #2094 on:** 26 Nov 2010, 12:26 »

He should offer "completed guitar kissed by a manatee" as an extra service on builds.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2095 on:** 26 Nov 2010, 14:24 »

He doesn't already? I thought that was where all the hot, sloppy mojo came from.

Bearer · « **Reply #2096 on:** 26 Nov 2010, 15:15 »

Mini humbuckers fit into a P90 rout. That's how they were designed.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2097 on:** 27 Nov 2010, 07:11 »

Yeah, very true. I told him to let me know when he can do binding, so I can get this thing made.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2098 on:** 27 Nov 2010, 08:21 »

So, I'm now tuning to F#BEADGC, I feel pretty good about this. I still have my eclipse for D and drop C, and my charvel for E standard.

Anyone else tuning to anything but standard here? (Beside the obvious DADFAG and BAGDAD.)

valley_parade · « **Reply #2099 on:** 27 Nov 2010, 08:23 »

Lately, I've been doing everything in open G (DBDGBD).

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