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Faye is friendly to customers!

Sven is serene and sensible!

Marten is mean business!

Angus is eaten by an allosaur!

Purple Monkey Dishwasher is pink!

Sven is pregnant.

[Lady_Lynx]

Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.

Left field? Really? I know it's been 4 years since we've seen him, but it's been pretty obvious he's hot for Faye for a long time.

[NilsO]

Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.

Left field? Really? I know it's been 4 years since we've seen him, but it's been pretty obvious he's hot for Faye for a long time.

Lady_Lynx: I think you found the most important strips that illustrates Sven's obsession with Faye. Moreover, it was the first time he had been dumped, as evident here and here. However, they had another fling later, and were friends with benefits for a while, where Sven was sometimes a huge a$$hole; before Faye finally dumped him because of the Gina Riversmith affair.

One of Sven's ethical guidelines is that he would not cuckold a friend, and he would not bang some dude's lady intentionally. Sven might not consider Angus a friend, but at least he knows who he is, and that Angus and Faye are in a relationship. Sven's ethical guidelines are apparently quite malleable.

Regarding "forgetting Sven": Apparently, not everyone in this forum has read the entire history several times. I remember it took me quite a while as well after discovering the series; I first had to be hooked on the current plots and getting to know the characters, before delving into the history. Also, the earliest strips are really not that good in plot and drawing style, making it difficult to progress to the better parts starting around strip #400. Still, the earliest strips are important in order to get the whole background story.

[Detachable Felix]

Regarding "forgetting Sven": Apparently, not everyone in this forum has read the entire history several times.

There's no need to be ancy about it. It was a surprise to me, too. Not so much in terms of Sven though, that's believable, more so Jeph introducing this at this time.
He's like the George R.R. Martin of relationship drama 

[Masterpiece]

NilsO trying to showcase his archive-fu here. I wanna say impressive, but, I'm not feeling it.

[Schmorgluck]

Probably helped by a skein of wild geese doing the research for him. 

[TRVA123]

One of Sven's ethical guidelines is that he would not cuckold a friend, and he would not bang some dude's lady intentionally. Sven might not consider Angus a friend, but at least he knows who he is, and that Angus and Faye are in a relationship. Sven's ethical guidelines are apparently quite malleable.

really? Sven just said he loved Faye, he hasn't said "I love you, you should immediately break up with Angus for me" or "cheat on Angus with me"

In fact, if getting Faye to cheat on Angus was Sven's goal, I imagine he would have approached Faye very differently, hanging out, having a few drinks, etc...

Instead Sven is being straightforward. He has laid his cards on the table.

Is this the best timing for Faye? not really, but Sven has been so removed from their group that he has no way of knowing what is going on with her, and apparently he is so infatuated with Faye that he isn't picking up the overbearing "this is not a good time to dump more on Faye" cues.

Tl:dr I'm not sure what Sven expects to get out of telling this to Faye, but I don't think he is trying to manipulate her into being unfaithful to Angus.

[Mad Cat]

Why do people so frequently do such violence to the phrase, "I'm in love with                "?
You're not in love with someone unless they are in that love with you. Otherwise, you're in love by yourself and just wishing the object of your affection reciprocated. And, unless you are the kind of psychotic who believes inanimate objects are capable of emotional states, no non-sentient object loves you. Hence, you're not in love with any inanimate objects. I love mango-lemonade with OJ. I'm not "in love with" mango-lemonade with OJ.

This brings us to a recent Devil's Panties strip.


It would have been more grammaticly, logicly, and emotionally accurate for Sven to have said, "I think I love you." Okay, maybe not so much logicly with Faye. For him to say, "I think I'm in love with you." was for him to preposit that Faye loves him back in the same way. Then again, Sven is the quintessential "bro".

Warning - while you were typing a you took an arrow to the knee. You may wish to stop adventuring.

[Masterpiece]

GROAAAAAAAANNN

[NilsO]

There's no need to be ancy about it.

Ancy? Please explain.

NilsO trying to showcase his archive-fu here. I wanna say impressive, but, I'm not feeling it.

If you are not feeling it, you are welcome to ignore it

[Carl-E]

I'm hoping there's a "BUT..." after that statement. 

(note that there's only one "T" there)

I love you BUT... I know it wouldn't work out / I know you're in a relationship / I know I fucked things up between us, etc. 

He's got a problem, not her.  Well, she has some issues too, just nothing he knows about.  He needs to move on and has finally figured out why he can't - he let what could have been the one get away.  Practically pushed her right out.  So he's confessing to her, hoping to get it out of his system, hoping against all logic that she's done with Angus and able to take him back, hoping for closure, hell, he's not even really sure what he's hoping for. 

It's a move of desperation. 

[Indicible]

For him to say, "I think I'm in love with you." was for him to preposit that Faye loves him back in the same way.

Gné? Rien capté...
(English version: What? Didn't get the joke.)

Okay, so, we knew Sven had a particular thing for Faye. The one thing we did not see coming was the timing. Somehow, I just don't think Faye will go on a binge. She has grown. She still has issues and she is still a smartass. However, she seemed to have settled into the relationship, something she had not done at the time of her last bottle mistake.
Well, we shall see, but I think we can rule out murder and hangover as possible outcomes. Not drama, though. Never drama.

Warning - while you were typing an eldritch abomination has taken control of your town. You may wish to dodge the brain slug.

[Mlle Germain]

Why do people so frequently do such violence to the phrase, "I'm in love with                "?
You're not in love with someone unless they are in that love with you. Otherwise, you're in love by yourself and just wishing the object of your affection reciprocated. And, unless you are the kind of psychotic who believes inanimate objects are capable of emotional states, no non-sentient object loves you. Hence, you're not in love with any inanimate objects. I love mango-lemonade with OJ. I'm not "in love with" mango-lemonade with OJ.

Based on my understanding of the English language as I have seen it used (and as a non-native English-speaker this percecption may well be erroneous) I always thought being in love with someone is like having a crush, being infatuated, whereas actually loving someone is the deeper feeling you have after you've been with them for a while (this distinction certainly exists in German: "verliebt sein" vs. "jemanden lieben"). I would certainly not say I love someone just because I have a crush on them/ am infatuated with them. And I thought being in love was something similar, just sounding less ridiculous/negative.
Please correct me if I am wrong and tell me how it really is! 

[WilliamCA]

/co/ actually called this yesterday.

[Barmymoo]

I've never heard of being in love with someone being something limited to reciprocal love.

If Sven just wanted to get it off his chest, why didn't he go and talk to Dora about it? She could have acknowledged his feelings whilst advising him about whether or not an approach to Faye would be welcomed or appropriate (spoiler: no) and there would have been no repercussions. That is what siblings are for!

[Method of Madness]

Whether the love is returned has nothing to do with it. Here's an example: I love my family. I'm in love with Sarah. 

[mabhatter]

Fayes week just gets better and better.

Now Faye doesn't have to leave the coffeehouse if Agnus gets the part.  What a CONVIENENT twist of fate that keeps Jeph from having to write out a main character. Someday they'll figure out that starving web artist/musician taking up the booth and nursing one coffee is messing with their reality!!!

[HiFranc]

Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
Not a valid youtube URL

Talking about that, this is first thing that popped into my head:

[GarandMarine]

See as someone with several women in my life I refer to as pets and keep collared I will counter and say that in the right context it's only proper to love your pets

[Aziraphale]

Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.

I know it's been 4 years since we've seen him...

Has it been that long? I found QC back in November and binge-read it from start to finish, so my sense of what happened when in "real time" is a bit off.

[Pilchard123]

This is not a good omen, eh, Aziraphale?

(click to show/hide)

That may not work if you didn't get you name from the place that I think you did

[Aziraphale]

This is not a good omen, eh, Aziraphale?

(click to show/hide)

That may not work if you didn't get you name from the place that I think

You got it right.

[cesium133]

I suppose "Steve is eating cereal" should have been a poll option. 

[Masterpiece]

DAMN YOU WILLI-

uhm, hold on, I mean

DAMN YOU JEPHZIBAH!

[Pilchard123]

Panel 4: Should 'Elf:' be included, do you think?

Also, I keep checking it, knowing that I don't want to read it until tomorrow after I get up for work. SPOILERS

[SuctionCup Caper Two]

DAMN YOU WILLI-

uhm, hold on, I mean

DAMN YOU JEPHZIBAH!

Agreed.      

[pwhodges]

Panel 4: Should 'Elf:' be included, do you think?

Surely he is addressing Steve as "Elf"!  What we are meant to make of that, I don't know. 

And in case anyone's speculating whether Jeph has been reading the forums, I see that he last logged in almost four months ago (though he could browse without logging in, I guess).

[Kugai]

[FunkyTuba]

DAMMIT JACQ..... actually, that was pretty funny.  Cereal with embedded AI has amazing IMPLICATIONS!

[Barmymoo]

I think the elf was a mistake carried over from scripting.

Also, my response:

WHAT. THE. HELL.

[SomeCanadianWeirdo]

Of course we won't know until the next strip if this actually happened, or if Steve is having an alcohol induced hallucination.

[FunkyTuba]

from what I remember of his process (probably have references on tumblr or somewhere) he edits scripts in a straight up text editor, sketches, inks, flats, colors in photoshop (mostly ) and then creates the speech bubbles and cut-and-pastes from the script at the end... he probably just copied a little too much.

Or, because it's an elf in Alpha distribution, the problem is with the elf's AI programming and not Jeph's process

Edit: can't wait for the callback next time we see steve and cosette's apartment... box upon box of cereal everywhere

[pwhodges]

Of course we won't know until the next strip if this actually happened, or if Steve is having an alcohol induced hallucination.

We may never know!

And I like the idea of the AI referring to Steve as an elf, anyway.

[Detachable Felix]

Fucking CALLED IT. Yessssssssssss

[cesium133]

Consumer Entertainment Robot Experimental Alpha-Level. 

[Mordhaus]

I had that exact same thing happen after dropping LSD. Only my elf was actually Danny Devito.

[Mr_Rose]

I had that exact same thing happen after dropping LSD. Only my elf was actually Danny Devito.

Wait, Danny deVito, or Tiny Danny deVito? Because the fullsize one shouldn't fit in a cereal box, hey?
Unless you're into those super-jumbo family packs or something….

[Tormuse]

Edit:

Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
Not a valid youtube URL

And now it's stuck in mine. THANKS.

*Sigh* I read this post this morning, about eleven hours ago, and the song's been in my head ever since.

Sure, it comes at a very unfortunate time for Faye, but Sven could not know that. If Faye and Angus were a happy couple right now, would you still say that it's bad and inconsiderate? At such a time, Faye might easily tell him sorry, nice that he told her, but she's over it, and everyone (in the forum I mean) would laugh about it and be sympathetic with Sven.

I doubt that.  Faye felt really hurt by Sven.  He was the first man she reached out to after a long period of not being able to be with anyone and his cheating stung her really badly.  Even if things were totally hunky dory with Angus now, I would expect her to be *really* guarded around Sven.  Sven's fling with Faye ended due to Sven's choices and dealing with the consequences of that choice is something he has to learn to live with and he needs to deal with it apart from her.  Even if he's simply "getting it off his chest," he's essentially dumping problems that he created himself on to someone who he hurt with those problems and that is really not a nice thing to do.  If he really feels a need to talk to someone about it, he should talk to someone else, really *anyone* else, besides Faye, the one he hurt.  Talking to Faye about it is inconsiderate, even in the best of circumstances, and I don't think everyone on the forum would laugh about it and be sympathetic with Sven.

(Did people think it insensitive when Elliot did it? I don't think so, and that was a similar situation. I think if Sven's intent is the same as Elliot's - namely, getting it off his chest, but not expecting anything in return - it's really perfectly fine.)

Elliot didn't hurt Padma and Padma wasn't in a relationship with him, therefore the situation is completely different.

[Rimwolf]

Consumer Entertainment Robot Experimental Alpha-Level. 

Good catch!

[Method of Madness]

That's gonna be an expensive reward, given how much cereal Steve eats.

[mustang6172]

Did I make that happen?

I wonder which Coffee of Doom employee Faye and Dora will have a threesome with this week.

[Method of Madness]

The espresso machine.

[hedgie]

The espresso machine.

I'm sure the espresso machine picked up several VDs after what Pintsize did to it.

[St.Clair]

Today's comic:
Jeph
Trolls
EVERYONE.

 

[Method of Madness]

Kinda. I just want some cereal (without a C.E.R.E.A.L.)

[quix0te]

NilsO trying to showcase his archive-fu here. I wanna say impressive, but, I'm not feeling it.

I think it was impressive.  http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wnod.gif

[quix0te]

Regarding whether protestations of love are manipulative or honest, context is everything.
If I'm in a relationship with somebody where love might have grown as a result, then I can tell that person.
BUT
Nobody just says, "I wanted you to know I love you.  Anyway, back to our discussion about tibetan prayer wheels." 
"I want you to know I love you" is implicitly one of those folded-up notes from 7th grade saying "I love you.  Check a box.  [  ] I love you too, and not as a friend   [   ] I don't love you, or I love you like a friend or somesuch BS"  The subject is forced to respond, either by saying, "REALLY?!? <3  <3  <3 I've loved you too for a while!  I can't believe it!"  or "Uh.  [Insert uncomfortable acknowledgement of weak to nonexistent feelings]"
To say it to somebody you aren't close to and don't spend much time with seems immature to me.  I mean, Sven may BE emotionally stunted.  I dunno.  To pop this without at least acknowledging that he F***ed up but it will never happen again is bad salesmanship or something.  I know if I were Faye, my first question would be "If you love me so much, why did you cheat on me?  Did you love me less then?  How does that work?"
I will say again that Faye's defining characteristic seems to be anger.  This, to me, disqualifies her from GF material.  Concealing your hostility behind jokes is one of the first jackass tactics.  "I was just kidding when I made you feel small"  Relationships are hard enough without having a partner whose toolbox has a lot of big hammers.

[TRVA123]

Haven't you ever just had the need to tell someone something like that? or at least, had friends who had similar impulses? Yeah, confessing you love someone when you pretty much KNOW there is no way the feeling is reciprocated is a pretty immature thing to do. But I've met many highschool and college age people who did things like this. Especially ones who are grapplling with the feeling of unrequited love for the first time.

Sven seems to be immature when it comes to caring about other people and being considerate of them.

I think he is looking for closure, even if he doesn't get what he wants he will at least know.

I actually do think that Sven is more "in love" with Faye than he was when he was with her. He saw what he had with Faye then as a meaningless fling, once he lost her he realized that he valued her as more than that.

I am NOT saying that this justifies him dumping his feelings on Faye, or that Faye and Sven should be together because of his "super spechul feewings"
But I can see where he is coming from and I can sympathize with his confusion and need for closure.

[T]

(note that there's only one "T" there)

Yes?

[iduguphergrave]

I should be mad but I can't stop thinking about how much fun it would be to be a tiny robot.

[Loki]

Arguably, Sven didn't cheat on Faye per se, since iirc they never stated they were in an exclusive relationship. In fact, they did not specify their kind of relationship at all, methinks, besides Faye saying "If you sleep with anyone else, I walk".

*walks away while thread explodes behind him*