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Faye is friendly to customers!

Sven is serene and sensible!

Marten is mean business!

Angus is eaten by an allosaur!

Purple Monkey Dishwasher is pink!

Sven is pregnant.

[DSL]

Maybe it's because I met the Divine Ms. C. Monday night at her Slingshot Tour stop in A2Mich, but the current (interrupted) arc made me think this link is appropriate.

[kagenoyuushi]

I actually love Sven's hopefulness (and almost naivete) in the last panel.  It's kind of... endearing?  Is that the word I'm looking for?

[Neko_Ali]

I was thinking more 'hasn't matured since middle school' myself.

[Redball]

I actually love Sven's hopefulness (and almost naivete) in the last panel.  It's kind of... endearing?  Is that the word I'm looking for?

Agreed. He might be going about it all wrong, but it says he's growing.

[ankhtahr]

I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven… 

[T]

I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven… 

There is only one way to know.

[Smallest]

I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven… 

There is only one way to know.

Ask Faye out?

[T]

I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven… 

There is only one way to know.

Ask Faye out?

Since the availability of Faye's might be a problem just ask out the angriest woman you can find.

[ankhtahr]

But it'd also have to be a woman with whom I already had a brief relationship. That's the bigger problem.

[Smallest]

But it'd also have to be a woman with whom I already had a brief relationship. That's the bigger problem.

Well, go have a brief relationship with a woman. In a couple months, test this out.

[ankhtahr]

Well, go have a brief relationship with a woman. In a couple months, test this out.

This is, I hope you realise, a little bit more difficult than that.

[Tova]

You can't be "in love with" Taylor Swift if you don't know her. You can love her, maybe - or at least you might love the idea of her, the concept you've created as representation of who you believe her to be in your head, but there's no relationship between the two of you on which you can base some claim of love; there is nothing there with which you can be "in love." You can only direct love at the idea, if indeed that is what you are feeling.

You could, however, be in love with Taylor Swift's music. That's a tangible, concrete thing with which you can interact, even if it isn't a sentient entity that has the capacity to love you back.

*shrug* Like I said, nothing resembling official definitions there, just how the two phrases work in my head.

That is the exact opposite of how those two phrases work in mine.

[Coffee_Kaioken]

.... so that shoots my theory out the window.

Sven, what the hell.

[Jazzmaster]

"But then I realized, shit, I might be in love with Faye!"

I'm not the type to tell people that they "don't know what real love is" and preach about the concept and theory of it and why they're stupid for thinking they're in love.  However, based on that line alone, Sven sounds like he hasn't really contemplated what love is to him.  He's convinced that having somebody on your mind endlessly means you're in love with them, or so he says.  But what if he's just infatuated?  What if he's guilty of over-idealizing her simply because she seems to be the first woman who has ever seriously "rejected" him?  Many guys have the problem of taking rejection personally (I'm no exemption to that).

Of course it's also possible he's really fucking bad at articulating what he means to say.  So far that seems the most possible thing, but who knows.

On another note, and I'm not sure if Jeph intended this or not but there seems to have been a brief trade of lives between Marten and Sven.  We still don't know the details of Marten's last interaction with Emily, but for now it seems that Marten is getting lady kisses for his displays of manhood, and Sven is being the "awkward" one.

[Method of Madness]

I don't think what Faye said even occurred to Sven as a potential outcome until Faye said it, even if it was dripping with sarcasm that he missed/chose to ignore.

[sluthy]

If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

[Method of Madness]

Was that her name?

[hedgie]

Renee

http://questionablecontent.net/1859

[Method of Madness]

Well they had four out of five letters right, but that explains why it didn't sound familiar.

[Zwammy]

Faye tells Sven to piss up a rope, Angus will get the job, he and Faye will hang on for a while, Angus gets offered a big show deal, Angus breaks it off with Faye because long distance sucks (and he's getting groupies nightly), Angus hires a hurting Sven to be the bandleader on his show, They become best buds and Faye hires an assassin to take them both out. (Plot twist - assassin is Evil Hanners)

[jwhouk]

Okay, now that's so weird that not even Jeph would consider it.

Besides, everyone knows it would be Veronica who'd be the hit-woman.

[DSL]

Plot twist twist -- there never was an "evil Hanners." Just Hanners. Juseeeeyyyyyyyaaaaaaaagggghhhh ....

[Method of Madness]

I think "evil Hanners" is the hypothetical Aussie clone.

[Loki]

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

[mary tyler murder]

Well she sure isn't after you dweebed it all up, Sven

[Tova]

He's way too wrapped up in his own emotions to consider her position for even a moment. That's never going to end well.

[KOK]

"But then I realized, shit, I might be in love with Faye!"

I'm not the type to tell people that they "don't know what real love is" and preach about the concept and theory of it and why they're stupid for thinking they're in love.  However, based on that line alone, Sven sounds like he hasn't really contemplated what love is to him.  He's convinced that having somebody on your mind endlessly means you're in love with them, or so he says.  But what if he's just infatuated?  What if he's guilty of over-idealizing her simply because she seems to be the first woman who has ever seriously "rejected" him?  Many guys have the problem of taking rejection personally (I'm no exemption to that).

Of course it's also possible he's really fucking bad at articulating what he means to say.  So far that seems the most possible thing, but who knows.

Can it be both?

[FunkyTuba]

Maybe it's because I met the Divine Ms. C. Monday night at her Slingshot Tour stop in A2Mich, but the current (interrupted) arc made me think this link is appropriate.

Not to mention that that sentiment coming from Faye is canon. Given her current state of mental affairs (frowney face from Friday) I think it's unlikely that Faye will be able to hold out forever, and I'd go even odds on her succumbing to her latent desire for Sven while Angus is out of town.

Note: I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. If desire for Sven is lingering better for all (including Angus) to let it work itself out as soon as possible.

Or Jeph's double super secret trolling us.

[NilsO]

I actually love Sven's hopefulness (and almost naivete) in the last panel.  It's kind of... endearing?  Is that the word I'm looking for?

It certainly illustrates what may happen if you have always got what you wanted. You become a complete douchebag, unable to handle situations that are not going your way. You do not understand social protocols. You do not understand what other people feel. You become a complete egoist. All is about you. This is the Evil Dictator syndrome.

[snubnose]

I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven… 

I have a very hard time picturing ANYONE in the real world being as dumb as Sven in todays comic.

Heck, even most seven year olds are way smarter than that.

Okay, now that's so weird that not even Jeph would consider it.

Now you jinxed it into happening.

Na, just joking.

It certainly illustrates what may happen if you have always got what you wanted. You become a complete douchebag, unable to handle situations that are not going your way. You do not understand social protocols. You do not understand what other people feel. You become a complete egoist. All is about you. This is the Evil Dictator syndrome.

Whow, very interesting thought ! I dont really get the point of linking a picture to an actual dictator, though. Did you want to tell us that North Korea is evil ? I doubt anyone here doesnt know that.

[XSin]

Would someone be able to take a guess at how long it's been since they saw each other in both real time and comic time? It really does feel like forever since we saw Sven which makes this more ridiculous than I'm thinking was intended

[Thrillho]

Sven has always been a bit of a bellend, but in these comics he's kind of showing character flaws.
a) Being in love with someone who is in a relationship and telling them both to get it off your chest and because they probably should know that; probably okay most of the time.
b) Going about it this way, reacting like this when she sarcastically talks about jumping into your arms, basically being an all-around douchenozzle is a big fat slice of 'nope.'

[NilsO]

I dont really get the point of linking a picture to an actual dictator, though.

Would you prefer goatse instead? (WARNING: Do NOT click that link! Do NOT click that link!)
You have been warned.

(click to show/hide)

But you had to do it anyway, didn't you?

[cesariojpn]

This brings us to a recent Devil's Panties strip.

I'm torn.

On the one hand, I should be supporting sexual deviants into petplay and this sorta thing.

On the other hand......there is a time and a place for some things. Or the girl is in an abusive/nonconsent relationship of sorts.

[Akima]

And Sven has obviously spent the intervening time watching crappy romantic movies... No, mate, it doesn't work like that in Real Live®.

[bhtooefr]

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian.

[NilsO]

And Sven has obviously spent the intervening time watching crappy romantic movies... No, mate, it doesn't work like that in Real Live®.

Remember, Sven writes country music lyrics for a living (Link1 and Link2). You cannot get further from Real Life® than that.

I can't stop loving you I've made up my mind
To live in memories of old lonesome times
I can't stop wanting you it's useless to say
So I'll just live my life in dreams of yesterday

Those happy hours that we once knew though long ago still make me blue
They say that time heels a broken heart
But time has stood still since we've been apart
I can't stop loving you...

[Schmorgluck]

As long as he doesn't go into Every Breath You Take level of creepy...

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian.

Or a dangerously clueless dominatrix-wannabe dreaming of making her boss her personal sub.

[T]

And Sven has obviously spent the intervening time watching crappy romantic movies... No, mate, it doesn't work like that in Real Live®.

Remember, Sven writes country music lyrics for a living (Link1 and Link2). You cannot get further from Real Life® than that.

I can't stop loving you I've made up my mind
To live in memories of old lonesome times
I can't stop wanting you it's useless to say
So I'll just live my life in dreams of yesterday

Those happy hours that we once knew though long ago still make me blue
They say that time heels a broken heart
But time has stood still since we've been apart
I can't stop loving you...

Al makes sense now. Country music damaged his brain. 

[NilsO]

More insight into Sven's character (according to Dora): Link1 and Link2

There's a tear in my beer 'cause I'm crying for you dear

[Shjade]

I am totally nicking that for a sig quote. Thank you.

Aww, but I don't get quote attribution in the sig? Sad day. v.v

*shrug* Like I said, nothing resembling official definitions there, just how the two phrases work in my head.

That is the exact opposite of how those two phrases work in mine.

Clearly we were destined for this encounter.

[cesariojpn]

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian.

Or a dangerously clueless dominatrix-wannabe dreaming of making her boss her personal sub.

Funny enough, I think these are all plotlines in Hentai Doujins I see on the internet.

[Neko_Ali]

Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics

[Somnus Eternus]

I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven… 

I have a very hard time picturing ANYONE in the real world being as dumb as Sven in todays comic.

Eh, I met one once.  The situation was almost identical, actually.

We were both fifteen, though, so that probably speaks volumes to where Sven actually falls right now, maturity-wise.

[Barmymoo]

If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.

[Smallest]

If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.

Yes, especially following today/yesterday's comic. Before the love mention it made a little more sense, but as I outlined before, there's reason for him and/or Faye to have (possibly mutual) affection at the other. They talked and stuff, which was important for Faye and probably unusual for Sven.

Of course, it would be interesting if he got with Renee or Gabby (did Gabby have that body type? I feel like she did. but she evaporated anyway), because we totally need more characters going on. And it might mean more Elliot or more intern exposition.

I'm torn.

On the one hand, I should be supporting sexual deviants into petplay and this sorta thing.

On the other hand......there is a time and a place for some things. Or the girl is in an abusive/nonconsent relationship of sorts.

To me it looks like rather skimpy cosplayer (Ash and Pikachu, supported by the gameboy). I see cosplayers who get 'lost' along the way around convention time, so it's not too surprising.

That said, I still sort of agree. If it is a petplay thing, it doesn't belong in the eyes of random people who aren't part of their dynamic.

Of course, on the other hand, I don't think people's clothes should be policed, and if it's cosplay, that's even sillier.

So I guess it really really depends: are they pet players engaging in some sort of public humiliation, or is it just what they're wearing?

(I'm not sure why it would seem nonconsensual, so I won't comment on that unless you come back to this particular offtopic and tell me)

[Is it cold in here?]

If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.

It certainly is. I took it as a negative comment about Sven having demeaning ideas. After all, look how he remembers Faye after the breakup. He doesn't say "She was the first chick [sic] I could actually talk to". He talks about her curviness, in terms less delicate than "curviness".

It's possible that he'd drop Faye to pursue someone else of the same figure. I hope she runs away, of course.

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.

[Thrudd]

What the hell, Sven, what even is this.

Faye: Oh my god are you an idiot?
Sven: [ponders for a moment] Yes. Yes I am. Any suggestions ...... [weighted pause as he notes Faye's expression] ...... that don't involve me ending up in the hospital?

Please remember that he has no idea what just happened just moments ago.

Warning - while you were reading the sun has entered the red giant phase of it's life cycle . You may wish to move to another solar system.

[Smallest]

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.

I know I commented, but that was on the comic more than the point so: also rather demeaning to everyone who dates women.

It certainly is. I took it as a negative comment about Sven having demeaning ideas. After all, look how he remembers Faye after the breakup. He doesn't say "She was the first chick [sic] I could actually talk to". He talks about her curviness, in terms less delicate than "curviness".

To be fair, everyone does. I mean, Sven was talking about missing her sexually when he spoke to Hanners, that was pretty clear, but everyone describes her as 'curvy and grumpy.' Dora in particular, actually, so maybe the Bianchi's are just very visual describers. I don't think that would be intentional on Jeph's part if it's true, though.

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.

For already reasons, I think so.  I mean, there is plenty of reason for Sven to have never had feelings that needed wondering about before and only know one way to put them out, but on top of that, I think it would be hard, at least at first, to admit he misses Faye. I mean, his persona isn't an asshole (whether or not he is an asshole, it's not how he presents himself), it's a charming guy. He doesn't want to be the guy who doesn't care about the girls he bangs. But he still never has, and Faye is someone he already has gotten in trouble for being with, so I think admitting it even to himself would be a hard step, and especially if he's fairly resigned to her dating Angus. It's a lot easier to say 'yeah I miss her curves and stuff, that's it, I'll date another curvy girl!' than 'I actually like someone for the first time in forever??? and but she's dating someone else, so I don't get a chance.'

I'm on the Sven has character side. I don't know if he has less-than-noble intentions for confessing, or if he even deserves a chance with Faye, but I really don't want him to be the flat, just-fucks-girls-otherwise-nothing character.

[quix0te]

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

Oh, thats not painful at all.  Thats grounds for popping a big bucket of popcorn to watch the show.  See also: girl/guy whose new partner cheated with them before breaking off their last relationship, and now the realization dawns, this new partner doesn't really grasp fidelity.