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WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 10:58 ---Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople or even if he does want to date transpeople, date Clare in particular.
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But most people are responding to what's actually shown in the comic rather than any baseless assumptions about the characters' motivations.
davedig:
Who is this Clare anyway?
Is she friends and co-workers with Marin in that comic Quest Content by Jeff Jacks?
I want to mention that I was having a stressful day at work and when Marten started scratching Claire's hair. It cheered me up so much that work suddenly became way easier.
Alphawolf55:
Marten hasn't shown anything either way. He's playing around with her like she's a cat or a little sister. The point is that people are setting themselves for a possible heart break.
Also Claire is definitely not a shock value character, but I sometimes wonder if she was always meant to be well written. Was it a chicken or the egg situation? Did she get better writing because of how popular she is compared to Gabby and Emily or did she become popular because she got better writing then Gabby and Emily. Gabby placement in the story makes me skeptical it's the latter.
Valdís:
--- Quote from: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 10:58 ---Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople
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That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.
We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.
Orkboy:
--- Quote from: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 11:30 ---
--- Quote from: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 10:58 ---Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople
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That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.
We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.
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Telling you why you're wrong would require me to speculate about Claire's parts, which we've been told not to do.
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