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And now for something completely different: What happened to Mays hand?

Too much cake-mix
May got too excited with Pintsize
May had a nasty meet-up with Yelling Bird
SOMEONE had to clean up Dale's bed!
The obligatory reference to synthetic ham
MAY IS MELTING FROM ALL THE SQUEE
May found Marigolds stache of sexy dude pictures
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Also there was an old post mentioning how Claire trans status was foreshadowed by her lips.

Hey, maybe Claire's mom is also trans!

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It's bad manners to analyze a real trans person's appearance for ways to misgender them, of course. Looking for clues in Jeph's artwork is certainly a thing but talking about Claire is a chance to practice how we'll talk about trans people who actually exist.

Look, I mean, speaking as a trans person: passing is a thing we have to worry about. If Claire the character was just "trans" without having to confront or embody any of the crap which that entails, it would not be good storytelling. And if we can't parse the art for clues to that struggle, we would not be good readers.
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Without a lot of waffling back and forth on what they think, or getting ham-handed advice from friends.

I see what you did there.

Why is Claire's mom in the diner or near it("He was having diner pancakes")? How did she know who Marten is? They've never met!

I'm trying to figure this out as well. A meeting could've taken place a while ago off-camera, as it were, but the most plausible scenario I can think of (a ride home from work, and pointing out the guy she works with at the library) doesn't fit 'cause Claire has a car. I'm sure this isn't the first time that Marten's been a topic of conversation, so Clairemom probably knew of him before today/last night.
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I wonder who made the dinners at Marten's family? His mother doesn't sounds like the kind that is into cooking...

Veronica doesn't seem like she'd be into knitting either, but she made the Worry Hat. So you never know.
Yeah, I don't think I look like the kind of person who cooks either. But I have a vague image of Marten's father cooking or at least holding a pot.
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Maybe Marten recognized her in relation to Claire and that's what caused this?
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Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.
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Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.
You said this much better then I did.   :-P
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Surely Clairemom will have seen photos from the wedding?
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Hey, maybe Claire's mom is also trans!

That's why I said they are a clone family! Or as alternative title for old cartoons "the Clonesons"
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I think I got whiplash, totally wasn't expecting this. But it's alright I can take it.

Edit: Matching pyjamas and blanket.
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Alright, fire up the boilers, and let's get the engines going again on board the SS Clairten.

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I think I got whiplash, totally wasn't expecting this
Dammit Jeph, insurance premiums are bad enough as it is!
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Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.
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http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379

That's the strip where Veronica started trying to get Claire interested in Marten, for those who don't feel like doing the work looking back that I just did...
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Aside from being offensive, the whole lips thing is ridiculous because the guys all have lower lip definition and Hannelore and Marigold only have lip definition when they're wearing make-up. You only need to go back a few comics to see that Hannelore did not have lip definition drawn in any of the four panels.

Also, I wanted to add that the family resemblance thing was not a critique of the art but a nice detail.
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Totally unsurprised.  Told you all so.

Speculation: Jeph introduced Claire's mother not knowing how to explain how it went down, but knowing the forums would come up with many explanations...which he could then reject all of and be inspired to come up with something completely different.  (No, I don't believe that.)
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http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379

That's the strip where Veronica started trying to get Claire interested in Marten, for those who don't feel like doing the work looking back that I just did...

Thank you.
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I hope her mother's name is CLeo.

So CLaire and CLinton and CLeo make a family of CLones.

Not that absurd considering that we have one girl who was born and raised in space and have a space station as therapist.
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Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.

So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.
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As the discussions seem to get more and more absurd, and the comic is satisfactory, I'll go to bed now. I think I mentioned that it's after 04:00 am?

*falls asleep standing*

*falls over*
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I hope her mother's name is CLeo.

So CLaire and CLinton and CLeo make a family of CLones.

Not that absurd considering that we have one girl who was born and raised in space and have a space station as therapist.

No, her mother is Clarice.
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I have been following this comic for years. I have only joined the forums to get in on the craziness of the current story arc. As much as people will say that some of this is out of character, I feel like this particular arc is a truly brilliant one. The way this whole situation has played out, and the pacing of the development truly shows how good Jeph has become at crafting a compelling, and emotionally gripping storyline. That is all.
and hilarious.  Don't forget hilarious.


Woo I think this ship just got upgraded into a canonship! :claireface:
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Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.

See I feel like it's either this, or a dream.

But Marten's already awake, and I feel like it would have to be his dream, since Clairemom looks so much like Claire that at first I thought it was a weird nightmare thing.
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Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.

So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.

Hannelore and Marigold have recently lost their lips.
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Hannelore and Marigold have recently lost their lips.

Thank you so damned much for the nightmares I am going to have tonight.




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I hope her mother's name is CLeo.

So CLaire and CLinton and CLeo make a family of CLones.

Not that absurd considering that we have one girl who was born and raised in space and have a space station as therapist.

No, her mother is Clarice.

I'm still convinced that Clarice from GWS is Claire's cousin and Veronica knows her from through the kink community.
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Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.

So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.

Hush you:

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2797

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Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.

So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.

Hannelore and Marigold have recently lost their lips.
Interesting observation...

Are they trying to be cute like Claire?


Thank you so damned much for the nightmares I am going to have tonight.


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Oh... Now I'm imagining this too.
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Uh oh.  Has Marten decided to be big-brotherly rather than pursue a romantic relationship?  Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"
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Marigold hasn't had big shiny lips either.

Evidence: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1993

I think the big shiny lips thing is mostly just who wears lip gloss or lipstick and who doesn't.
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Uh oh.  Has Marten decided to be big-brotherly rather than pursue a romantic relationship?  Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"
Or he fell in love with Claire's mom... ...pancakes!
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Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"
The processing was supposed to come after pancakes
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I find the revisiting of the Dale/Marigold 'pancakes' incident highly amusing.

Wait, does that mean Clairemom is an android?

*mindblown*

Remember Marten, "The syrup is for the pancakes".
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Marigold hasn't had big shiny lips either.

Evidence: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1993

I think the big shiny lips thing is mostly just who wears lip gloss or lipstick and who doesn't.
She had originally http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1413
And I'm pretty sure she didn't use lipstick/gloss/any make up back them.


The current trend might be just part of the style change but it still doesn't rule out my CLone family crack theory!
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I find the revisiting of the Dale/Marigold 'pancakes' incident highly amusing.

Wait, does that mean Clairemom is an android?

*mindblown*

Remember Marten, "The syrup is for the pancakes".

What if the whole family are androids! Better make them similar so it is easier to replace broken parts!
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Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"
The processing was supposed to come after pancakes

Yeah, but he may have been interrupted at the diner, mid-pancake. So he may have done a little processing at least.

PS: the wedding photos explanation makes perfect sense. Doesn't quite explain what she was doing at the diner, though.
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What if the whole family are androids! Better make them similar so it is easier to replace broken parts!

Does that mean Claire dreams of electric pancakes?
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While you were posting, other people already noted Hanners lips were torn off before you could

Robots too, have no lips. Although, being artificial, doesn't prove anything.

I've seen people note a adams apple way back though. That could just be the artstyle at the time though, since I think there's other instances of cis women having a curve going neck to chin sometimes. Although she definitely has one now if you at the near kiss.
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Marigold hasn't had big shiny lips either.

Evidence: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1993

I think the big shiny lips thing is mostly just who wears lip gloss or lipstick and who doesn't.
She had originally http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1413
And I'm pretty sure she didn't use lipstick/gloss/any make up back them.


The current trend might be just part of the style change but it still doesn't rule out my CLone family crack theory!

It's probably mostly a stylistic thing. Also, as someone who draws, more simplistic mouth designs can give a little more expression while creating the extra lines for lips can drastically change the look from one character to another just in terms of emotions and such. 
At any rate, such speculation should probably be dropped because it's very rude.
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While you were posting, other people already noted Hanners lips were torn off before you could

Robots too, have no lips. Although, being artificial, doesn't prove anything.

I've seen people note a adams apple way back though. That could just be the artstyle at the time though, since I think there's other instances of cis women having a curve going neck to chin sometimes. Although she definitely has one now if you at the near kiss.
What if the QC cast is slowley being replaced with robots....  :claireface:
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Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.

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Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"

Knowing Marten, it was this.
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Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.

Ooh, I like this one.

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Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.
I just added a random "ara ara" in my mind.
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Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.

Ooh, I like this one.

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...er...

I feel like I missed a strip, but OK.
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What if the QC cast is slowley being replaced with robots....  :claireface:

That's why Hannelore doesn't freaks out anymore!  :psyduck:
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Wait if the pancakes are supposed to come after....Mrs Augustus you didn't!
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This can only mean good things, in my mind. If Marten was willing to take Claire's mom up on the invitation, that means he wasn't completely freaked out about the happenings the night before. Otherwise, he would either not be there at all, or would look uncomfortable as hell. But buddy is smiling and genuine and sober and this can only lead to GOOD THINGS *clutches at face*

I dunno.  If Marten realized he really had strong feelings for Claire, wouldn't he be all nervous to see her again so soon, particularly with her mother around?

To me it seems more like white knighting so far.  He wants to prove he's a good guy and not freaked out by her trans status or their canoodling.  But I dunno if that translates into him feeling the same way about Claire as she does about him.

passing is a thing we have to worry about. If Claire the character was just "trans" without having to confront or embody any of the crap which that entails, it would not be good storytelling. And if we can't parse the art for clues to that struggle, we would not be good readers.

I think it's strongly implied that Claire doesn't 100% pass.  No one has said anything to her, of course, but Marten's nonreaction when she outed herself makes me think he sort of suspected already. 

That said, the no lips thing I think is more to accentuate that she has buck teeth. 
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Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.

This.

Pancakes equal sweet awkwardness (Sven + Faye, Marigold + Dale).
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judging from Claire's look in this one, I think she's about to flee the scene.
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