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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #250 on: 16 Jan 2015, 09:36 »

PANEL 6 (half-height): Close up on Faye's face, tears running down her cheeks
PANEL 2 (half-height: Close-up on Faye's face, tears streaming down her cheeks;

Has Jeph ever drawn tears?  We get a teary-eyed Hanners, I know, but actual tears seem like they'd be all but impossible to do in a comic.  Unless anime provides a stylized way to do it?
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #251 on: 16 Jan 2015, 09:46 »

My prediction: Claire and Marten adorably watching flick. As it ends, they're looking into each other's eyes and contemplating intimacy. Phone rings - Faye's in hospital.

Alternate: Marten returns from date and discovers Faye unconscious and in serious condition. During trip to ER he realizes his date (as well as general distraction from new relationship) put Faye in danger.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #252 on: 16 Jan 2015, 12:34 »

PANEL 6 (half-height): Close up on Faye's face, tears running down her cheeks
PANEL 2 (half-height: Close-up on Faye's face, tears streaming down her cheeks;

Has Jeph ever drawn tears?  We get a teary-eyed Hanners, I know, but actual tears seem like they'd be all but impossible to do in a comic.  Unless anime provides a stylized way to do it?

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #253 on: 16 Jan 2015, 12:45 »

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #254 on: 16 Jan 2015, 13:59 »

I believe I will confine my forum attentions to the caption contest next week. I hate seeing five 300-puund Māori bouncers reduced to gibbering tears.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #255 on: 16 Jan 2015, 14:30 »

My prediction: Claire and Marten adorably watching flick. As it ends, they're looking into each other's eyes and contemplating intimacy. Phone rings - Faye's in hospital.

Alternate: Marten returns from date and discovers Faye unconscious and in serious condition. During trip to ER he realizes his date (as well as general distraction from new relationship) put Faye in danger.

No they didn't. If that happened, FAYE put Faye in danger. He isn't her keeper, he's her friend. And while yeah, while we should look after our friends, we also have our own fucking lives.

I think people are forgetting that Marten doesn't have the information that we have. He didn't see her wake up and reach for a bottle. He didn't see that she was already hiding bottles in her room without even realizing it. He saw her drunk in the middle of the day ONCE. Even Dora has seen slightly more than that, but it still isn't a lot, she asked about drinking on the job, which could be taken as a joke, and then she came in in the morning smelling like booze, which is probably the most alarming thing that anyone has actually seen.

We have access to waaaaay more knowledge than the characters do. Now if Marten, Dora, and Pintsize all got together and shared what they've seen, they would probably have a more complete picture, but even then WE WOULD STILL KNOW MORE THAN THEY DO.

Now, he may feel GUILTY about not being there, but that is irrational. He didn't put her in danger.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #256 on: 16 Jan 2015, 14:52 »

Now, he may feel GUILTY about not being there, but that is irrational. He didn't put her in danger.

Exactly. Rational or not, he'll be running through scenarios in his head ("if only I hadn't been out/if only I'd paid attention to the signs/how could I have missed that she was hurting"). Of course he's not at fault. But he wouldn't be human if he didn't wonder what he could have done.

This is one of the hardest things for those close to addicts to deal with - that when you "help" the addict by shielding them from consequences, you're enabling their addiction.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #257 on: 16 Jan 2015, 16:21 »

We have access to waaaaay more knowledge than the characters do.
A fact oft forgotten in this and many other forums.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #258 on: 16 Jan 2015, 16:27 »

There are two possibilities (that seem likely): This is how he rolls now. Or, He's struggling with a difficult subject.

Third possibility: he's going to have all of these bombs explode at once, like a fireworks show finale extravaganza of drama.

That's just a special case of the first possibility.

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #259 on: 16 Jan 2015, 17:21 »

Marten is blissfully unaware that Faye has a problem

Heck, Marten seems to be blissfully unaware that he's wearing the same shirt he wore on his last date with Claire...two days ago.  So much for lookin' fancy, I guess.

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #261 on: 16 Jan 2015, 18:05 »

It might not even be one of those shirts.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #262 on: 16 Jan 2015, 18:27 »

I don't think they've reached the "sharing clothes" phase of the relationship. 

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #263 on: 16 Jan 2015, 18:45 »

If that ever happens, 1) does Marten still have this shirt and 2) would that color look good on Claire?
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #264 on: 16 Jan 2015, 20:32 »

PANEL 6 (half-height): Close up on Faye's face, tears running down her cheeks
PANEL 2 (half-height: Close-up on Faye's face, tears streaming down her cheeks;

Has Jeph ever drawn tears?  We get a teary-eyed Hanners, I know, but actual tears seem like they'd be all but impossible to do in a comic.  Unless anime provides a stylized way to do it?

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #265 on: 16 Jan 2015, 21:19 »

Regarding Faye, it seems likely that as far as any character is concerned her drinking problem is no worse than usual.  Honestly, is this the lowest she's been?  It's not like drinking at work is anything new, so the only new thing we've seen is her starting the morning trying to finish a bottle, finding it empty, and finding a new one to start the day with... okay, that's actually pretty fucking bad now that I type it.  My point is that Faye was already an alcoholic, now she's a less functional alcoholic.

If that ever happens, 1) does Marten still have this shirt and 2) would that color look good on Claire?

A girlfriend once told me that red hair and pink shirts should never be mixed.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #266 on: 16 Jan 2015, 21:55 »

Or the Universe will end?
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #267 on: 16 Jan 2015, 22:04 »

A girlfriend once told me that red hair and pink shirts should never be mixed.

She can get away with it, well pink in general, since her hairs stylized red and not a more natural red like Alice's.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #268 on: 16 Jan 2015, 22:11 »

Or the Universe will end?
Worse. Much, much worse. :psyduck:

I did a search for "red hair pink shirt". That abomination was the first result.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #269 on: 16 Jan 2015, 22:23 »

The pink shirt isn't the problem, though.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #270 on: 17 Jan 2015, 00:43 »

Re Faye.
"Houston we've had a problem".

Maybe I should elucidate - not make cultural/historical references only those of my age, or space geeks, or those who have seen the movie "Apollo 13" will understand.

It means that something has gone very seriously wrong. It may mean "Oh sh1t we're all going to die" followed by actual, literal not figurative, death. It means the panic button has been pressed because there's a situation worth panicking about.

The kind of situation like when a surgeon is doing a routine procedure, and the patient's heart suddenly stops.
The kind of situation when you're driving on a freeway at the speed limit, see an accident half a mile ahead, gently put on the brakes - and the pedal just goes to the floor, no braking available.

It means instant reaction of the correct kind is needed if there's to be any chance of Bad Stuff(tm) not happening, and the odds don't look good that even that will make any difference, you don't know enough yet.

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #271 on: 17 Jan 2015, 06:12 »

Marten is blissfully unaware that Faye has a problem, as is Dora. That's a prediction.

They aren't aware of the full extent of the problem. They don't know, for example, that Faye is stashing bottles in her room, and reaching for them first thing in the morning. Dora doesn't seem to fully realize that Faye was dead serious when she said she wanted to be drunk every minute she was awake.

What Faye is doing is friendship ending stuff. I know from experience.

Oh absolutely. Faye's friends can stage all the interventions they like, but Faye still has to want to quit drinking after the dust has settled. And an intervention may not be enough motivation for that, not while the alcohol is doing such a good job of numbing her pain. And in that case, her friends may have to bail on her to keep her from dragging them down with her. Dora can't have an alcoholic manager running her employees, for example, and if Faye starts putting more money into bottles of cheap liquor and shorting Marten on the rent, he may end up having to get a new roommate if he doesn't want to end up on the street, or even worse, moving back in with his mother. Bottom line, someone who's always drunk is only good company for other drunks. And Faye's present friends are not drunks.

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #272 on: 17 Jan 2015, 09:03 »

Re Faye.
"Houston we've had a problem".

Maybe I should elucidate - not make cultural/historical references only those of my age, or space geeks, or those who have seen the movie "Apollo 13" will understand.

It means that something has gone very seriously wrong.

IIRC, it was the actual, official, handbook crew-to-ground NASA code phrase for "we're f*cked".
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #273 on: 17 Jan 2015, 12:30 »

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #274 on: 17 Jan 2015, 12:34 »

Re Faye.
"Houston we've had a problem".

Maybe I should elucidate - not make cultural/historical references only those of my age, or space geeks, or those who have seen the movie "Apollo 13" will understand.

It means that something has gone very seriously wrong.

IIRC, it was the actual, official, handbook crew-to-ground NASA code phrase for "we're f*cked".
Wait, did I miss something? I didn't realize anyone didn't get that reference.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #275 on: 17 Jan 2015, 13:22 »

Re Faye.
"Houston we've had a problem".

Maybe I should elucidate - not make cultural/historical references only those of my age, or space geeks, or those who have seen the movie "Apollo 13" will understand.

It means that something has gone very seriously wrong.

IIRC, it was the actual, official, handbook crew-to-ground NASA code phrase for "we're f*cked".
Wait, did I miss something? I didn't realize anyone didn't get that reference.

I'm baffled at the idea that someone wouldn't understand the reference, considering its not like it went away, people still use it regularly.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #276 on: 17 Jan 2015, 14:59 »

FAYE'S GONNA MAKE A MISTAAAAAAKE!

$5 bottle of scotch ..... 21 (29.6%)
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #277 on: 17 Jan 2015, 19:26 »

Have you ever considered linking up with an illustrator and starting your own comic?

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« Reply #278 on: 17 Jan 2015, 19:34 »

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« Reply #279 on: 18 Jan 2015, 02:15 »

Re Faye.
"Houston we've had a problem".

Maybe I should elucidate - not make cultural/historical references only those of my age, or space geeks, or those who have seen the movie "Apollo 13" will understand.
I am neither of the three and I got it.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #280 on: 18 Jan 2015, 09:30 »

Re Faye.
"Houston we've had a problem".

Maybe I should elucidate - not make cultural/historical references only those of my age, or space geeks, or those who have seen the movie "Apollo 13" will understand.

It means that something has gone very seriously wrong.

IIRC, it was the actual, official, handbook crew-to-ground NASA code phrase for "we're f*cked".
Wait, did I miss something? I didn't realize anyone didn't get that reference.

I'm baffled at the idea that someone wouldn't understand the reference, considering its not like it went away, people still use it regularly.
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« Reply #281 on: 20 Jan 2015, 18:04 »

Which would make sense that she decided to explain it if someone had expressed a lack of understanding.

The bafflement was in taking a rather sizable post to explain a very common reference that absolutely zero people expressed any confusion over, especially with the added comment that people would have to be older, a space geek, or watched the movie Apollo 13 to get it, as though it was some obscure reference. Yeah, sure, someone might not get it, and if they brought up that they didn't understand, I support explaining it in a friendly manner, but if we spent every day explaining every turn of phrase or reference we used when no one appears to be confused, that would be all any conversation would BE.
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« Reply #282 on: 20 Jan 2015, 22:46 »

I understood it to be a clarification of the exact degree of severity in which it's given its serious use, given the often jocular nature with which it's referenced out in the wild.
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« Reply #283 on: 21 Jan 2015, 00:54 »

12-02 alarm.
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« Reply #284 on: 21 Jan 2015, 02:05 »

12-02 alarm.

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« Reply #285 on: 21 Jan 2015, 14:20 »

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« Reply #286 on: 21 Jan 2015, 19:08 »

Switching space programs, I think what's going on in the strip right now counts as: "Obviously a major malfunction ... "
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« Reply #287 on: 21 Jan 2015, 19:11 »

I believe the industry term is "unplanned disassembly." Or perhaps "lithobraking."
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« Reply #288 on: 21 Jan 2015, 19:18 »

I believe the industry term is "unplanned disassembly." Or perhaps "lithobraking."

As G.Harry Stine put it, "the vehicle entered a region of extremely high drag coefficient, known as the ground."
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« Reply #289 on: 21 Jan 2015, 19:24 »

I've seen the nuclear industry use the phrase "energetic disassembly".
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« Reply #290 on: 21 Jan 2015, 20:37 »

"It broke."
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« Reply #291 on: 21 Jan 2015, 20:41 »

As my grandfather would say about his still up on the mountain, "It done blown up."
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« Reply #292 on: 21 Jan 2015, 20:47 »

Or the ever dreaded "oops".
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« Reply #293 on: 21 Jan 2015, 22:55 »

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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #295 on: 22 Jan 2015, 03:47 »

In IT, we say FUBAR.
(Fucked up beyond any repair).
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #296 on: 22 Jan 2015, 05:55 »

I'm showing my age with this cockpit recording:

"V1. V2. Damn."
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #297 on: 22 Jan 2015, 07:55 »

With propeller driven aircraft, of the model variety in my case, it is referred to as deciding to do some last minute "post hole digging".
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #298 on: 22 Jan 2015, 13:19 »

The term Augured In comes to mind.
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Re: WCDT: 2873-2877 (12-16 January 2015)
« Reply #299 on: 22 Jan 2015, 13:22 »

In IT, we say FUBAR.
(Fucked up beyond any repair).

Works, though I think it originally stood for " ... all recognition." It was 10 to the power of SNAFU.
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