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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
tragic_pizza:
"One of her best employees?"
Um... no. An Assistant Manager is supposed to be, among other things, an example to other employees. Faye is an asshole on her best days. And, since I like all the QC characters, including Faye and yes, even Clinton, I am being generous here.
It wouldn't be hard to convince me that everyone is suffering compassion fatigue, is tired of Faye's shit, plus the fact that a person in a position of authority has shat upon the owner of the business.
Gone, baby, gone.
Alphawolf55:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 19 Jan 2015, 20:47 ---
--- Quote from: Alphawolf55 on 19 Jan 2015, 20:41 ---[...]and Dora putting Faye over her was probably an act of seniority and favoritism.
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So Dora is simultaneously the kind of person who would make the decision to immediately fire a friend without question for drinking when they know they're suffering after turning down a more competent employee out of pure favouritism?
Look, whilst I understand humans are creatures of contradiction, you have to understand just how hard I'm calling bullshit on this.
Warning - while you were typing a new coworker has appeared. Hide your bottle under your shirt before they notice.
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Immediately firing her would've been her firing her yesterday.
Firing her the next day when she's still drunk if not worse because she's now bringing booze into the work place, lying to her face about it, , after she gave her a promotion and everything which is now putting her business at stake? That is not without question
Again the only reason Faye seems to be a good employee is because of the quality of the other employees and because we don't see Dale and Penelope at work enough.
xaszatm:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 19 Jan 2015, 20:28 ---Yes Dora. Your friend is obviously in need. Firing them is the best thing to do at the moment.
God damn it, Faye's consistently been established to be volatile but still one of her best damn employees. She also knows that this behaviour is uncharacteristic. I understand why she'd be pissed, but Jesus Christ this seems like the worst possible thing for Dora to have done.
In one fell swoop she's exacerbated her friend's suffering when they're already past breaking point and lost one of her best employees for an incident that, whilst it isn't exactly minor, was more deserving of disciplinary action than termination. It's just bad business.
Especially when customers come just for her service in particular.
Seriously. A massive pay dock and the loss of a few shifts for a while. There are levels between "Nothing/Coddling" and "Termination".
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This is it. This is the comment that gets me to join.
You are confusing business with friendship. You never mix the two. Having Dora hire her friends was already a step in the wrong direction, but she is doing the responsible thing here. When faced with a decision between friendship and business, business should win out. Friendship will not pay for the liabilities Faye will cause by being drunk. Friendship will not pay for any damages both physical and emotional she causes at the store. Friendship is not a valid defense when a drunk employee injures a patron. Friendship ends when it becomes a huge liability for a business. A business, mind you, that is the only income Dora has.
So, why not just give her a few days off? Well, first off, that encourages Faye. It shows her that she can show up drunk, which was pretty much one of the few rules Dora actually held, and have little to no punishment for it. It shows her that she can drunk all the goddamn time and there will be no consequences. Please tell me how that will help Faye recover from her drinking problem? It won't. The only way to get to an alcoholic is for the alcoholic to realize she has a problem. Firing her proves to her that she has a problem. And don't go "she could realize she had a problem with the threat of a firing". No she wouldn't. When someone is currently in alcoholic withdraw, they will justify their drinking in any way possible. Only when the writing is on the wall will an alcoholic even consider thinking that they might have a problem, and even then they might still choose to drink.
Secondly more deserving of disciplinary action?. I'm sorry, what?!? Something that could have serious economic consequences for her store is only deserving of disciplinary action? Look, even if that were true, Faye has more than racked up warnings. Dora even gave her a position of power. That position comes with trust. And what did Faye do with said trust? Spit on it because "screw you, my problems mean more to me than your livelihood". You're mad that Dora's a bad friend to Faye? Be mad that Faye is using her friendship as an excuse. Faye with her drinking crossed a line in both the business side and friendship side with Dora and Dora's reaction was more than justified.
Should Dora help Faye with her problems? Of course. But that happens outside of working hours, when her own livelihood isn't threatened.
TieDyeKat:
I worry that one of two things will happen here:
1. Faye goes home, Marten comes home, Faye cries on Marten's shoulder, Marten misses date with Claire, Claire second-guesses herself into a worried tizzy or misconstrues what's going on and feels Marten isn't being a fantastic boyfriend any more.
2. Faye goes home, Marten doesn't, Faye was depending on Marten to be there and does something ill-advised, Marten comes home to find disaster.
I kinda hope:
3. Faye goes home, Marten doesn't, Hannelore tells her to put her big girl panties on and sober the hell up.
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