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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
MrNumbers:
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Immediately firing her would've been her firing her yesterday.
Firing her the next day when she's still drunk if not worse because she's now bringing booze into the work place, lying to her face about it, , after she gave her a promotion and everything which is now putting her business at stake? That is not without question
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First: This is still the same day, in-strip time. It's later on in that same day. That's important.
Second: Yes. Absolutely. She made a poor decision to lie to her boss, whilst drunk, and then continued to drink. That's a horrible, terrible thing to do.
But a bigger hit to Dora's business is losing an otherwise good manager (one who has a loyal customer base and manages to keep the other employees well in check) in the heat of the moment. Her decision to punish Faye? Justified. Being sick of Faye's shit? Justified.
But the loss of a valued employee, and a manager at that, is now made up for in the overtime she needs to pay other people to make up for Faye's shifts, time investment in hiring a new employee, and time Dora herself has to spend since she was the only other manager. If Faye's actions haven't caused more damage, or will cause more damage, than her termination will, then the termination is a poor decision. Especially since it's not a repeat offense, it's a first-time incident of this type of behaviour.
So it's a bad business decision as well as a bad friend decision.
Warning - while you were typing 3 new bottles of bourbon appeared on the wall. Note them down, pass them around.
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This is it. This is the comment that gets me to join.
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I'll fight you all!
--- Quote ---You are confusing business with friendship.
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I just covered that now. Let's move on.
--- Quote ---So, why not just give her a few days off? Well, first off, that encourages Faye. [...]
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Ahh... No? No it doesn't. If his is her only source of income, giving her a week or two without shifts is a serious financial burden. Huge. Give Faye a taste of what termination would be like if she didn't get her shit together and know that Dora means business. It's not like a school suspension, especially since Faye is paid by the hour and not a set wage.
She should absolutely be punished severely. A permanent termination is a step too far.
--- Quote ---Secondly more deserving of disciplinary action?. I'm sorry, what?!? Something that could have serious economic consequences for her store is only deserving of disciplinary action?
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Again, covered above. The severity of her punishment should scale with the permanency of her incompetence. It's the difference between rehabilitation and retribution. Retribution may feel more righteous, but guess which one ends up more effective long-term?
Alright, who else needs verbal fisticuffs? I'll take you all on, Hemmingway style.
EDIT: I would also like to state, for prudence's sake, that I am, in fact, joking about fighting people. I do not wish for this to devolve into a flame war of any flavour.
Is it cold in here?:
One of the wiser things I've ever heard about dealing with addicts is "Don't jump in and try to save an anchor from drowning".
Proportionate measures are for normal healthy people screwing up. The Pugnacious Peach is looking less and less like such a person.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 19 Jan 2015, 21:10 ---I do not wish for this to devolve into a flame war of any flavour.
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Gladstone:
I'm still trying to process all this (and I can see everyone else is, too). I mean, this is Faye we're talking about. She's been around since the beginning. And while, yeah, she started out prickly and violent, she's spent the entire run of the comic getting better--getting to know Marten, moving in with him, making other friends, opening up about her past, kissing a boy, dumping that boy when he broke the rules, getting a boyfling, making art, holding down a steady job and getting promoted--and suddenly that's all come crashing down in just a few short days because her drinking, which has always been a small problem but never more than a bad hangover the next morning, has at last turned into something bigger and cost her the job she has had since before she met Marten. This is kind of a big deal, as big as Marten getting a girlfriend or breaking up with a girlfriend, and for some reason I can't quite process it yet. I really have to trust Jeph on this, because I have no idea where he's going with it.
explicit:
I for one like shitty things to happen every once in awhile to one of our beloved characters. Or at least them proving to be imperfect. Besides the break up everything's been going too good for everyone anyway (they're not real people, I'm allowed to want them to suffer some adversity okay?)
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